MattPetrulli Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, hlcater said: It did in grand isle. Water topped Humphress's cam and it was 14ft ASL. Scratch that then lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osfan24 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: One thing I’ll say- though that’s a lot of damage in Grande Isle, that’s not nearly the surge damage I had expected for being in that location. Some houses clearly did get washed away, but not nearly what you’d expect from a 15 foot (predicted) surge. Good news on that front. Still the town looks like a complete mess and I’m sure every property has moderate to severe damage. Agreed, unless we just haven't seen pictures of it yet. I expected to see Mexico Beach, hurricane Michael type destruction where this came in, and it seems that didn't happen for whatever reason. Maybe it hit rather uninhabited areas or maybe the surge just wasn't that great because of the last intensification? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeoman Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, GaWx said: Does Josh add a new ring to his hand with every successful chase? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normandy Ho Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Those who are a disappointed with damage produced need to give more props to human engineering and understand that Cat 4/5 hurricanes are not nuclear weapons. Many structures will survive these storms (even wood framed buildings). If wind damage in Mexico beach was worse, it is very likely building code related as Michael was not much more intense than Ida. neighborhoods being flattened are limited to only the severest of hurricanes (Dorian, Andrew, Labor Day, etc). Winds have to be greater than 170 mph before that can occur. Also got to give a shout out to those that designed and engineered the levees. They were tested and they passed 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, osfan24 said: Agreed, unless we just haven't seen pictures of it yet. I expected to see Mexico Beach, hurricane Michael type destruction where this came in, and it seems that didn't happen for whatever reason. Maybe it hit rather uninhabited areas or maybe the surge just wasn't that great because of the last intensification? Grand Isle missed the inner eye wall and worst surge. And as you said hurricanes travel with their surge, if this had been a long track 4 the surge would have been much greater. Another thing to consider is the building types in the area. Almost everything right near the water is on pilings. That stretch of coast is so incredibly hurricane prone things are built to last through even a major. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 8 hours ago, smokeybandit said: So no one cares about this storm anymore? Maybe they just needed some sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Wonder if there's a temporary power restoration plan. Replacing all those poles and towers won't happen quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, Amped said: Maybe they just needed some sleep. Yes, and some need a break. But after EVERY storm the forums somewhat die off very quickly. If landfall was a let done it is over. But for us on Sunday watching the live iPhone/Galaxy cam on Grand Isle, it was thrilling even though at a 5KB upload so pixelated. But what fun! Every storm needs at least that. My wife was yelling at me to turn down the volume. But I refused. (Brave of me, but hey it was a Hurricane!) I'll catch up tonight since my early this morning scan of posts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of OT Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: A+ Forecast dating back to Thursday. https://easternmassweather.blogspot.com/2021/08/major-hurricane-idea-verification.html You put the actual landfall zone into a lower category and got the timing wrong…but a+ forecast dude. Looking forward to the next one! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Prospero Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, eyewall said: My first thought is that a lot of people complain about the building codes and regulations since Andrew in Florida, or Katrina in LA. If Ida hit 20 years ago we'd see flattened landscapes. But now roofs don't blow away like they used to. Once a roof is gone, wall just fall over and twist until they tumble. Structures hold up better today. But still the costs will be passed onto insurance companies this week and we will definitely be hearing numbers that will put Ida into a historic cost hurricane forever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I know when sometimes not following a thread, it is easy to miss cool videos posted. So for anyone missing yesterday, I'll post again. This clip with a before/after shows what an Ida storm storm surge was doing on Grand Isle while many of us were engaged. I am still impressed. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Looks like the media completely forgot about this hurricane already thanks to Afghanistan. Oh well. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 minute ago, lilj4425 said: Looks like the media completely forgot about this hurricane already thanks to Afghanistan. Oh well. Dude NBC Nightly News just spent a third of their broadcast covering it...no they didn't "forget"...It's just a bit of an unusual time where two huge events are happening at once. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said: Dude NBC Nightly News just spent a third of their broadcast covering it...no they didn't "forget"...It's just a bit of an unusual time where two huge events are happening at once. Depends on what channel you watch as well. Granted, LA for some people is not important. Especially Cajun Country. For the rest of us, we love shrimp, enjoy when gas prices are reasonable, and actually care about people who are suffering. My Dad just called (86 years old), stressing on politics and far-away places. I said all I was caring about today are the victims of Ida. He didn't even seem to know what I was talking about. He watches a different news channel. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 It is typical for this forum and every other storm forum that I have visited or participated in, that as a big storm approaches the activity is crazy and even hard to keep up with as it approaches. Leave for a couple hours, and hard to catch up. But then, after landfall; smoke a cigarette. The activity is slow. I swear. The excitement of a storm approaching, when will the climax be, where, how "good," etc. Yet really that is the beginning of the story. Yea fun to watch the sats and the chasers, Weather Channel on TV, so on. It is fun, even though we all say how much we care about everyone in the path. For people who do care, the story just begins. And just look at how slow the forum is now. I say most people want death and destruction, even many mets. I get it, kind of, of course. But really we will start to see what Ida did over the next days. And oh my, it was horrible. This is when the forums should be active as well. But I bet my post sits for a while before anyone else even reads it. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcatz Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 hours ago, jm1220 said: My brother lives in Lake Worth, FL and was there for Dorian. It's insane (lucky) how he had some gusty showers pretty much but 100 or so miles east over Grand Bahama Island was annihilated. The PBI to MIA stretch is incredibly overdue for a bad one and the check will come due soon. Once north of NC hurricanes completely change to much more broad impacts. The worst of Sandy was actually 100 miles N of the center. I live in Boca Raton which is just a handful of miles from Lake Worth. A lot of this discussion has to do with the size and structure of the storm. Dorian was very small. We got by with barely anything from dorian. However we got hammered my Irma whose eye was further away from us than Dorians. Irma's eye was over 100 miles away and we had widespread power outages and many trees and minor damage. Every storm is different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Gfs had the least track MAE of any of the operational models. The three bars to the right are concensus blends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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raindancewx Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 The clustering below of big bad storms reminds of me some periods in the 1930s and 1960s. Carla (1961), Hilda (1964), Betsy (1965), Beulah (1967) Camille (1969) for some comparable Gulf monsters to the recent four. That period from 1964-1969 was pretty rough down there. Freeport (1932), 1933 - several Gulf Coast hits and a nasty stronger Isabel too for the NE, Hurricane "1" in 1934 is kind of legendary in some ways, 1935 had the five in the Keys, and then 1938 had the New England hurricane and a hurricane hit the central Gulf. 1933 is a nuts season, but 1932 doesn't really get it's due. Carla: 1961 (931 mb right before Landfall, similar spot to Laura, likely similar to Laura for winds too) Hilda: 1964 (950 mb at landfall) - stronger Oct 1964 version of Delta in October 2020 (970 mb) Betsy: 1965 (942 mb, hit right near Houma like Ida) Beulah: 1967 (950 mb landfall S. Texas, lots of floods and tornadoes) Camille 1969 (900 mb just around landfall - 175 mph winds based on observations) 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 26 minutes ago, HillsdaleMIWeather said: I’m honestly surprised we’ve not heard of more alligator attacks. I’ve been chased by one before on Caddo Lake after heck rain, it’s terrifying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Tezeta said: You put the actual landfall zone into a lower category and got the timing wrong…but a+ forecast dude. Looking forward to the next one! Not sure what you are looking at, but I predicted Port Fourchon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Tezeta said: You put the actual landfall zone into a lower category and got the timing wrong…but a+ forecast dude. Looking forward to the next one! You are looking at the First Call map from Thursday....I was on the wrong side of Terrabonne Bay...pretty close for 72 hrs lead...Final from early Sunday AM got the exact town correct and was 90 minutes too slow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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raindancewx Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 I like to compare the old footage to the new footage for hurricanes in similar areas. Ida: Carla: Lots of electrical grid damage here - Hurricane Hilda: Hurricane Betsy: - the modern levee system was designed to prevent another Betsy. Kinds of a legendary storm. Hurricane Beulah: Another amazing system Hurricane Camille: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Video Update as Ida weakens and leaves Louisiana in ruin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjOwDNnAfAw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Amped Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Well turns out the neglected piece of urban blight that toppled was one of the cities historic cultural sights. Guess they did a good job disguising it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebman Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 This is a good one. Listen to that howl and roar! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAwx Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 11 hours ago, Prospero said: It is typical for this forum and every other storm forum that I have visited or participated in, that as a big storm approaches the activity is crazy and even hard to keep up with as it approaches. Leave for a couple hours, and hard to catch up. But then, after landfall; smoke a cigarette. The activity is slow. I swear. The excitement of a storm approaching, when will the climax be, where, how "good," etc. Yet really that is the beginning of the story. Yea fun to watch the sats and the chasers, Weather Channel on TV, so on. It is fun, even though we all say how much we care about everyone in the path. For people who do care, the story just begins. And just look at how slow the forum is now. I say most people want death and destruction, even many mets. I get it, kind of, of course. But really we will start to see what Ida did over the next days. And oh my, it was horrible. This is when the forums should be active as well. But I bet my post sits for a while before anyone else even reads it. There’s a level of enthusiasm for weather and meteorology, and hurricane tracking, that’s understandable and a lifelong passion for many. And then there’s sociopathy. Helpful to understand the difference, and not claim exemption due to “muh weather forum.” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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