MJO812 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, matt8204 said: My cousin is getting married Friday in Spring Lake. Fortunately it's an indoor wedding but I still feel bad seeing that it could be a lousy day weather-wise. Any chance this potential rainfall shuts off by Thursday night or early Friday morning? Spring Lake is beautiful Enjoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, uofmiami said: Ridge over troubled waters pattern possibly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmo09001 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, bluewave said: The ridge east of New England on the UKMET and Euro is just slightly stronger than the CMC. So the UKMET and Euro linger the convection into Saturday. Probably need a few more model cycles to pin down the exact timing of the front. Gotcha, appreciate the additional context. Getting married on Friday near Hudson, NY. Rooting VERY hard for a quicker solution to be realized. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 hours ago, rmo09001 said: Gotcha, appreciate the additional context. Getting married on Friday near Hudson, NY. Rooting VERY hard for a quicker solution to be realized. Congratulations. The 12z UKMET joined the CMC. Heaviest convection later Thursday into early Friday. The front keeps moving enough that both models are now dry for Saturday. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, bluewave said: Congratulations. The 12z UKMET joined the CMC. Heaviest convection later Thursday into early Friday. The front keeps moving enough that both models are now dry for Saturday. Saturday should be OK. Maybe a lingering shower in the morning?? The main activity will be later Thursday into Friday as you noted. I think a 1-3" rainfall w/embedded thunderstorms is still on the table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 20 minutes ago, bluewave said: Congratulations. The 12z UKMET joined the CMC. Heaviest convection later Thursday into early Friday. The front keeps moving enough that both models are now dry for Saturday. Yea they were way too slow moving even with the strong WAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said: Yea they were way too slow moving even with the strong WAR. The 592 dm height at Caribou today was one of the highest on record for so late in the season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt8204 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 6 hours ago, MJO812 said: Spring Lake is beautiful Enjoy Thanks! Looking forward to it. Might stay down there for the weekend if it clears up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 6 hours ago, jm1220 said: Ridge over troubled waters pattern possibly. I like the extended dry spell, let's get that here first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 8 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: This is the kind of situation that is possible under some of the fairly ominous monthly 500 mb forecasts for October (and weekly forecasts going into October). But let's remember that the chances for anything to happen here are extremely small. What usually happens is a storm into the SE or Gulf or even more likely out to sea, which is what's been happening this month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: But let's remember that the chances for anything to happen here are extremely small. What usually happens is a storm into the SE or Gulf or even more likely out to sea, which is what's been happening this month. While true, the odds would be greater than climatology. Even indirect effects could produce flooding. Of course, what will likely become Sam could recurve if the pattern is still evolving. But there’s always the possibility of additional storms, as it has been a very active season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: While true, the odds would be greater than climatology. Even indirect effects could produce flooding. Of course, what will likely become Sam could recurve if the pattern is still evolving. But there’s always the possibility of additional storms, as it has been a very active season. That trajectory looked to me like a southern track. Do you think that splitting the two predominant tracks (SE/Gulf and out to sea/Bermuda), which would be Hatteras to New England may be more likely than, say, when we had Henri come up here in August? If so it looks like a first week of October window doesn't it, Don? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Another 80° day at Newark as the endless summer pattern continues. Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Jan through DecClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Number of Days Max Temperature >= 80 Missing Count 1 2015 118 0 2 1994 114 0 3 2016 113 0 - 1993 113 0 - 1991 113 0 4 2011 111 0 - 2010 111 0 5 1959 108 0 2021 108 102 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, bluewave said: Another 80° day at Newark as the endless summer pattern continues. Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Jan through DecClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Number of Days Max Temperature >= 80 Missing Count 1 2015 118 0 2 1994 114 0 3 2016 113 0 - 1993 113 0 - 1991 113 0 4 2011 111 0 - 2010 111 0 5 1959 108 0 2021 108 102 Outside chance of getting 10 more days before cold weather finally comes in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 newark temps are inaccurate been that way all summer.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 39 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Outside chance of getting 10 more days before cold weather finally comes in? The potential for a few more 80° degree days showing up over the next week. KEWR GFSX MOS GUIDANCE 9/21/2021 1200 UTC FHR 24 36| 48 60| 72 84| 96 108|120 132|144 156|168 180|192 WED 22| THU 23| FRI 24| SAT 25| SUN 26| MON 27| TUE 28|WED CLIMO N/X 67 81| 69 76| 61 75| 59 74| 59 81| 59 77| 59 75| 61 54 72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxallannj Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Also at EWR we have a good chance of having the highest minimum temperature for the month of September Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Lowest Min Temperature Missing Count 1 2021 57 10 2 2015 54 0 3 2018 53 0 - 2002 53 0 - 1994 53 0 6 2016 51 0 - 2011 51 0 - 2010 51 0 - 2008 51 0 - 1968 51 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Islip made it to 78° today. So this was the 21st day in September to reach 75° or warmer. It’s only 4 days behind the September all-time record. Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Number of Days Max Temperature >= 75 Missing Count 1 2005 25 0 2 2015 24 0 - 1980 24 0 3 2019 23 0 - 1998 23 0 4 2017 22 0 - 2007 22 0 5 2020 21 0 - 1968 21 0 2021 21 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 ASTRO summer here came in at 13th warmest past 44 years...Rain of 30.27" beats out 2011 to become wettest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Under mostly sunny skies, temperatures rose into the middle and upper 70s. A few locations reached 80°. Newark reached 80° for the 108th time this year, which ties 1959 for the 8th most such days. The record is 118 days, which was set in 2015. Tomorrow will turn mostly cloudy. It will be unseasonably warm. Temperatures will likely top out in the upper 70s and lower 80s. The potential exists for a moderate to perhaps significant rainfall from tomorrow night through Friday. A widespread 0.50"-1.50" rainfall with locally higher amounts is possible. The MJO has recently been locked in Phase 3 at a high amplitude, frequently in excess of 1.500. Only 2006 and 2009 saw the MJO in Phase 3 at an amplitude of 1.500 or above for 2 or more days during September 10-20. Both years saw September end with a cold shot that continued into the first days of October. Both days saw Central Park's temperature fall to 49° on September 30. A fairly sharp rebound in temperatures followed. October wound up wetter than normal with 7.07" rainfall in 2006 and 5.58" of rainfall in 2009. Normal rainfall (1991-2020) is 4.38". Despite the guidance of a few days ago and a likely cold shot to end the month, 2021 is still on course to become the 6th out of the last 7 years during which September has had a mean temperature of 70° or above in New York City. Considering that the close of September is still more than 10 days out, the guidance can still reverse. Prior to 2000, New York City saw such warmth on average once every five years. In short, September has become more an extension of summer than a gateway to autumn in the New York City area. Fall 2021 will likely be wetter to much wetter than normal in the northern Middle Atlantic region. Since 1869, there have been 9 August cases where New York City picked up 20.00" or more rainfall during the summer. Two thirds of those cases (and 4/5 of those with summer mean temperatures of 73.0° or above) had 17.00" or more fall precipitation in New York City. 2011 is probably the closest match in terms of precipitation and a nearly identical summer mean temperature. Mean fall precipitation for those 9 cases was 14.86". The median was 17.35". The 1991-2020 normal value is 12.27". The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.2°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.4°C for the week centered around September 15. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.03°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.45°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely prevail through September. Afterward, La Niña conditions could begin to develop. The SOI was +13.02 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) figure was -0.046 today. On September 19 the MJO was in Phase 3 at an amplitude of 1.344 (RMM). The September 18-adjusted amplitude was 1.466 (RMM). Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 77% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal September (1991-2020 normal). September will likely finish with a mean temperature near 70.4° (1.2° above normal). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I don't want to brag, but I am getting a little shower right now 9:15PM 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 hours ago, bluewave said: The potential for a few more 80° degree days showing up over the next week. KEWR GFSX MOS GUIDANCE 9/21/2021 1200 UTC FHR 24 36| 48 60| 72 84| 96 108|120 132|144 156|168 180|192 WED 22| THU 23| FRI 24| SAT 25| SUN 26| MON 27| TUE 28|WED CLIMO N/X 67 81| 69 76| 61 75| 59 74| 59 81| 59 77| 59 75| 61 54 72 It's interesting what our summers are turning into, consistently warm to very warm, but very little in the way of extreme heat and particularly extreme heat that lasts a long time. All of our long 7+ day heatwaves are from over a decade ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, bluewave said: Islip made it to 78° today. So this was the 21st day in September to reach 75° or warmer. It’s only 4 days behind the September all-time record. Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Number of Days Max Temperature >= 75 Missing Count 1 2005 25 0 2 2015 24 0 - 1980 24 0 3 2019 23 0 - 1998 23 0 4 2017 22 0 - 2007 22 0 5 2020 21 0 - 1968 21 0 2021 21 9 1983 isn't on this list? That had 5x 90+ days in September at JFK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Might be time to track Sam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Helluva way to run a cooldown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 ...Parts of the northern Mid Atlantic... Although there remains substantive spread within/among the various model output, 30-50+ kt southerly flow in the 850-700 mb layer may linger into the day Thursday across much of the northern Mid Atlantic region, generally coincident with the corridor of seasonably moist boundary-layer air. Although lower/mid tropospheric lapse rates are forecast to remain weak, weak to moderate CAPE may still develop and contribute to scattered thunderstorm activity with daytime heating. In the presence of moderate to strong shear in the lower to mid-levels, the environment may become conducive to organizing lines or clusters with the potential to produce locally damaging wind gusts. Latest guidance appears increasingly suggestive that hodographs could become characterized by substantial clockwise-curvature in low levels, particularly across parts of eastern Pennsylvania and New Jersey into south central and southeastern New York state, which may support a risk for a couple of tornadoes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Morning thoughts… Today will be mostly cloudy and warm. High temperatures will likely reach the upper 70s and lower 80s in most of the region. Likely high temperatures around the region include: New York City (Central Park): 78° Newark: 81° Philadelphia: 82° Normals: New York City: 30-Year: 73.9°; 15-Year: 75.0° Newark: 30-Year: 75.5°; 15-Year: 76.7° Philadelphia: 30-Year: 76.7°; 15-Year: 77.7° A moderate to perhaps significant rainfall is possible tonight through Friday. A general 0.50”-1.50” rainfall with locally higher amounts appears likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 12 hours ago, nycwinter said: newark temps are inaccurate been that way all summer.. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmendevils8204 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 9 hours ago, CIK62 said: I don't want to brag, but I am getting a little shower right now 9:15PM Must have been the same piece of moisture I got. Went out to my car around 10:30 and the ground was unexpectedly wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 The next 8 days are averaging 72degs.(66/79), or +6. Month to date is 71.8[+0.9]. Could be 71.9[+2.2] by the 30th. Reached 79* here yesterday. 72*(97%RH) here at 6am, overcast, scuzzy. 75* at Noon. 76* at 1pm. 78* at 3pm. Reached 79* at 5pm. Today 76-80,se. wind, m. cloudy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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