uncle W Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, user13 said: These numbers are so localized though. I had 7.5+ inches in queens in an afternoon in aug 2011 its all localized during Thunderstorm season... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WE GOT HIM Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, uncle W said: Its all localized during Thunderstorm season... For sure that's why looking at regional averages is better vs a localized record. When trying to make sense of the data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, user13 said: For sure that's why looking at regional averages is better vs a localized record. Brooklyn had a 6" deluge in June 1962 while everywhere else did not reach 2"...since Central Park has 150 years of record I used that tiny spot in the Park... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Current temp up to 91 here with an oppressive DP of 76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Ewr adds another 90 to the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonClaw Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, CIK62 said: I mostly missed out on this and got some tail end rain. For the record, this was 2:30AM today: I woke up from some thunder from this and took a peek at the radar. The amount of rotation in the northern part of that cell was very noticeable on radar. I'm surprised no warnings went up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 20th 90 of the year for ewr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, user13 said: These numbers are so localized though. I had 7.5+ inches in queens in an afternoon in aug 2011 Same here...had 8.65" on 8/14/11 then two weeks later 9" with Irene. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, doncat said: Same here...had 8.65" on 8/14/11 then two weeks later 9" with Irene. that was one wet month-I had something like 15 inches here for the month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: that was one wet month-I had something like 15 inches here for the month I'll say...I had 21.50" for Aug. and 25.50" over a 30 day period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binbisso Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, forkyfork said: 20th 90 of the year for ewr While in the New York City metro region Central Park 85 laguardia 81 White Plains 81 Teterboro 86. I'll bet that every one of those sites has less than 10 90ﾟ days. That area in North central New Jersey near Newark and the surrounding counties have a climo like Washington DC. I'll bet even philly and Trenton have less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 High for the day was 94 here. Picked up 0.69" of rain so far today. Current temp 79/DP 76/RH 92% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravity Wave Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, binbisso said: While in the New York City metro region Central Park 85 laguardia 81 White Plains 81 Teterboro 86. I'll bet that every one of those sites has less than 10 90ﾟ days. That area in North central New Jersey near Newark and the surrounding counties have a climo like Washington DC. I'll bet even philly and Trenton have less I highly doubt Newark is actually hotter than Philly, there's been some speculation that EWR is running too hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Gravity Wave said: I highly doubt Newark is actually hotter than Philly, there's been some speculation that EWR is running too hot. Newark is accurate.This summer is an over the top heat pattern. So DCA to Philly is running cooler than points further north. Summer 2021 highs so far Boston…….100° Hartford…..99° LGA…….….100° Corona……103° Newark…..103° Philly……….97° DCA………..95° 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 3 hours ago, binbisso said: While in the New York City metro region Central Park 85 laguardia 81 White Plains 81 Teterboro 86. I'll bet that every one of those sites has less than 10 90ﾟ days. That area in North central New Jersey near Newark and the surrounding counties have a climo like Washington DC. I'll bet even philly and Trenton have less Oops, they all have 10 or more days. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binbisso Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, bluewave said: Newark has been accurate. It’s and over the top heat pattern. So DCA to Philly is running cooler that points further north. Summer 2021 highs so far Boston…….100° Hartford…..99° LGA…….….100° Corona……103° Newark…..103° Philly……….97° DCA………..95° Bluewave all reporting stations in July are running from-1 to -2.5 including Connecticut but Newark is at +1 with today included. We know of cpk problems but Newark seems to be off too. For example Philly high was 92* today Newark 93* most other metro area stations were in the mid 80s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binbisso Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, psv88 said: Oops, they all have 10 or more days. Try again. Central Park 10 laguardia 10 White Plains 8 just did my research I'm not too far off and they are less than half of what Newark has would love to know what philly and Trenton have as far as 90ﾟ days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, binbisso said: Bluewave all reporting stations in July are running from-1 to -2.5 including Connecticut but Newark is at +1 with today included. We know of cpk problems but Newark seems to be off too. For example Philly high was 92* today Newark 93* most other metro area stations were in the mid 80s Newark is in line with the reporting stations west of NYC that are running a little above normal MTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binbisso Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, bluewave said: Newark is in line with the reporting stations west of NYC that are running a little above normal MTD. Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 84.5 was my high but very humid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, binbisso said: Central Park 10 laguardia 10 White Plains 8 just did my research I'm not too far off and they are less than half of what Newark has would love to know what philly and Trenton have as far as 90ﾟ days LGA I believe is 11. You bet that they all had less than 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Under partly sunny skies, temperatures surged into the 80s in the northern Mid-Atlantic region. South of there, especially from Newark, temperatures rose into the 90s. 90° Days for Select Cities (through July 12): Albany: 4 (2020: 13 days; 5-Year Average: 13.6 days) Allentown: 13 (2020: 24 days; 5-Year Average: 27.6 days) Baltimore: 21 (2020: 46 days; 5-Year Average: 44.6 days) Boston: 13 (2020: 14 days; 5-Year Average: 17.2 days) Bridgeport: 6 (2020: 11 days; 5-Year Average: 13.4 days) Burlington: 7 (2020: 20 days; 5-Year Average: 13.0 days) Harrisburg: 15 (2020: 35 days; 5-Year Average: 30.6 days) Hartford: 13 (2020: 39 days; 5-Year Average: 29.0 days) Islip: 3 (2020: 8 days; 5-Year Average: 9.4 days) New York City-JFK: 5 (2020: 12 days; 5-Year Average: 10.2 days) New York City-LGA: 11 (2020: 34 days; 5-Year Average: 29.4 days) New York City-NYC: 10 (2020: 20 days; 5-Year Average: 18.2 days) Newark: 20 (2020: 31 days; 5-Year Average: 31.2 days) Philadelphia: 16 (2020: 36 days; 5-Year Average: 34.6 days) Scranton: 11 (2020: 25 days; 5-Year Average: 16.4 days) Washington, DC: 17 (2020: 46 days; 5-Year Average: 50.8 days) New York City-Newark Average: 12 (2020: 22 days) ...Expected: 12 (based on regression equation tied to JFK-LGA-EWR data) Tomorrow will be variably cloudy and cooler in the northern Mid-Atlantic region. Showers and thundershowers are possible. Washington, DC to Philadelphia will likely see readings surge into the lower and middle 90s. In the long-range, the second half of July and August could wind up warmer to perhaps much warmer than normal based on the evolution of the MJO. The MJO was in Phase 1 with an amplitude between 1.500 and 2.000 on multiple days during the June 20-30 period. There were 8 prior cases similar to 2021. The mean temperature for New York City during the July 16-31 period was 79.4° and the mean temperature for August was 77.1° following such cases. The 1991-20 mean temperature for July 16-31 was 77.9° and 76.0° for August. 75% of the July 16-31 cases and 88% of the August cases were warmer than the 1991-20 mean temperatures. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.1°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was 0.0°C for the week centered around July 7. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged 0.10°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.13°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely prevail through August. The SOI was +17.24 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) figure was +1.253 today. On July 10 the MJO was in Phase 2 at an amplitude of 1.381 (RMM). The July 9-adjusted amplitude was 1.329 (RMM). In late April, the MJO moved through Phase 8 at an extreme amplitude (+3.000 or above). Only February 25, 1988 and March 18-19, 2015 had a higher amplitude at Phase 8. Both 1988 and 2015 went on to have an exceptionally warm July-August period. July-August 1988 had a mean temperature of 79.1°, which ranked 4th highest for that two-month period. July-August 2015 had a mean temperature of 78.9°, which ranked 5th highest for that two-month period. September 2015 was also the warmest September on record. The MJO's extreme passage through Phase 8 could provide the first hint of a hot summer. Since 1896, 76% of years that saw Phoenix reach 115° or above in June, as occurred this year, had a warmer than July-August in the Middle Atlantic region. The ratio of top 30 July-August temperatures relative to bottom 30 temperatures was 6:1 in favor of the warmth. Overall, the ingredients continue to fall into place for a warmer than normal to potentially hot summer. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 46% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal July (1991-2020 normal). July will likely finish with a mean temperature near 77.3° (0.2° below normal). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 7/12 EWR: 93 PHL: 92 BLM: 91 ACY: 91 New Brnswck: 90 TTN: 90 TEB: 87 NYC: 86 JFK: 86 ISP: 82 LGA: 82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, psv88 said: LGA I believe is 11. You bet that they all had less than 10 2021: PHL: 16 (April: 0; May: 3 ; June: 9 ; Jul: 4 ; Aug: ; Sep: ) EWR: 20(April: 0; May: 4 ; June: 12 ; Jul: 4 ; Aug: ; Sep: ) TTN: 12 (April:0 ; May: 1 ; June: 8 ; Jul: 3 ; Aug: ; Sep: ) LGA: 11 (April: 0; May: ; June: 9 ; Jul: 2; Aug: ; Sep: ) ACY: 12 (April: 0; May:2 ; June: 6 ; Jul: 4 ; Aug: ; Sep: ) TEB: 11 (April: 0; May: ; June: 9 ; Jul: 2 ; Aug: ; Sep: ) NYC: 10 (April: 0 ; May: ; June: 8; Jul: 2; Aug: ; Sep: ) JFK: 5 (April: 0; May: 2 ; June: 3 ; Jul: ; Aug: ; Sep: ) ISP: 3(April: 0; May:1 ; June: 1 ; Jul:1 ; Aug: ; Sep: ) New Bnswk: 17 (April: 0 , May: 3, June: 10, July: 4; Aug: ;Sep:; ) BLM: 18 89 degree days EWR: 3 ACY: 4 PHL: 4 TTN: 4 NYC: 2 ISP: 3 BLM: 2 TEB: 3 89 JFK: 2 LGA: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 For whatever reason, Newark is the hottest major recording station in our area in the summer. I believe the local environment of concrete, maybe all the chemical and industrial facilities nearby, the wide open space of a major airport and with many large planes and that sun beating down on all the tarmac, probably has a play in those temperature readings. I don't think the readings are wrong, just a product of the environment, just like Central Park is a product of that environment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I wish there were as many complaints about the EWR readings as there were about CPK. When you see EWR hotter than anywhere else including PHL, something is off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Have had 15, 90° days at my station so far. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 After all the evidence posted by Bluewave over the last couple of months we're still going with, "something must be wrong with Newark's temp readings!!". Also Newark is mostly in line with interior Queens as posted by Bluewave several times. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 High for the day was 94 Picked up 0.69" of rain for the day. Current temp 72/DP 69/RH 93% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboLeader1 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Reached 81 here yesterday. Current temp 67/DP 66/RH 93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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