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17 minutes ago, weathafella said:

I am not aware of a single case of covid from touching something.   During the first month of the pandemic I wore gloves at the market.   Basic the only time I use hand sanitizer now is going into and out of my doctors appointments.   That said, old habits die hard....I still use my elbow to push the button for the walk sign at busy intersections.

Funny ...I couldn't find hand sanitizers after the run on the markets last spring... SO, I went on line - I found this organic hyper concentrated shit that's fragrance free and got all tough and manly and had 6, 12 oz containers of it delivered.

I still have 5, 12 oz containers unopened and the one lingering, 10 oz full container ... having never contracted Covid-19 in the 18 months of this vacation from pragmatism.

Stuff smells like a industrial "tumorigenic" solvent used by hazmat encased cleaners of O-rings from the Space Shuttle rocket testing days... holy hell is that shit bad.  And supposedly this is organic, in big gaudy it's safe letters because of the word organic.

like... I thought carbon present in molecules determines organic and I started wondering ... - ...snake venom is organic .. Mayo, nuero, cyto and necro toxins... .  So is the dreaded tetra-dutoxin from Box Jellyfish for f'-sake. 

I wasn't thinking things through, and as much as I have fun chastising and impugning, I too was pretty heavily swept away in the early histrionics I guess.

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1 hour ago, KoalaBeer said:

Today marks 20 years since the Andover KS tornado. To this day I think it’s still one of the most amazing tornado videos ever shot, and that’s saying something considering we all have hd cameras in our pockets nowadays. Love how the guy just stays quiet and films the tornado and lets the storm do the talking. 

https://play.spokenlayer.com/this-day-in-weather-history <—— podcast on it, haven’t listened yet so no idea if it’s any good. 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/andover-kansas-1991-tornado-americas-103000141.html?guccounter=1

 

 

30 years even. I watch this one a lot.

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1 hour ago, Hoth said:

The stuff will really hit the fan when it becomes widely known that Tesla's autopilot is designed to disengage fractions of a second before a crash so Tesla can claim the driver was in control. Or when it comes out that Tesla is not actually collecting a gigantic amount of data from each car for their "neural net". Or maybe when a car on autopilot runs down a bunch of bicyclists or something. I dunno, feels like regulators are starting to wake up. NHTSA is taking more heat from NTSB and Congress for its blatant disregard for Tesla safety concerns in recent years; China is losing patience with Tesla over all the sudden unintended acceleration, battery fire, broken suspension and autopilot issues. Frankly I'm more interested in how they've been realizing a good $400 million a quarter in EV credits like clockwork. I don't get where this money is suddenly coming from. Until this past year, when most other manufacturers weren't producing EVs but had to have credits, Tesla was recognizing $100-$200 million every few quarters, usually when they needed to dress up a bad income statement. Suddenly, when manufacturers are selling thousands of EVs and don't need to buy nearly as many credits from Tesla, they recognize a lot more revenue from that source? How does that work? Is that number even real? Is it the new accounts receivable inflation to mask how shitty their business actually is?

TSLA recognized $518 million of regulatory credits this quarter somehow lol. Okay. Ex that and non-recurring items like day trading bitcoin profits, TSLA lost a couple hundred million again. $800 billion market cap car company that makes less real money than a lemonade stand.

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4 minutes ago, Hoth said:

TSLA recognized $518 million of regulatory credits this quarter somehow lol. Okay. Ex that and non-recurring items like day trading bitcoin profits, TSLA lost a couple hundred million again. $800 billion market cap car company that makes less real money than a lemonade stand.

Is some of that from their home solar or is TSLA only the auto manufacturing?

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2 minutes ago, mreaves said:

Is some of that from their home solar or is TSLA only the auto manufacturing?

No, those credits are just for auto. Their solar installation is negligible these days anyway. Down probably 80% compared to when they acquired Solar City five years ago.

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I think I'm more amazed that Elon effectively did a Bitcoin pump and dump to make his quarter. Buy $1 billion of bitcoin, talk the price up on Twitter, cash out for a quick $100 million profit. Anybody not named Elon would be hauled up before the man for that.

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2 hours ago, Lava Rock said:

How many suits is TSLA having to defend for accidents like the most recent one where the idiot driver wasn't in the driver's seat, but the car still crashed on auto pilot.

Reminded me of a 20+ years ago article on weird lawsuit results.  One on the list was a guy who put his RV on cruise control then went back to the galley to fix his breakfast.  Winnebago was dinged for a huge award, including a new RV.

I bought an 8foot pine 1x6 at lowes on Saturday for a shelf in my work shop. Its was a decent grade but still a basic 1x6. $11.57

That's $2.89 per board foot, and from your description it was a #2 grade, relatively small red* knots.  Best sawmill-delivered price I found around here for #2 logs was $0.40, or 14% of that price Selects get more, up to $600, but that's till only 21% and selects generally have 50%+ clear, knot-free lumber which might cost twice the #2 boards.  Loggers and landowners aren't getting much if anything from the huge lumber prices, but when those prices crash it's inevitable those guys will be asked to take a cut.

* Red knots are formed from still-living branches and don't fall out of the board.  Black knots, formed from dead branches, are loose and sometimes depart from the piece, and are allowed in #4 (and below) boards.

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1 hour ago, tamarack said:

Reminded me of a 20+ years ago article on weird lawsuit results.  One on the list was a guy who put his RV on cruise control then went back to the galley to fix his breakfast.  Winnebago was dinged for a huge award, including a new RV.

I bought an 8foot pine 1x6 at lowes on Saturday for a shelf in my work shop. Its was a decent grade but still a basic 1x6. $11.57

That's $2.89 per board foot, and from your description it was a #2 grade, relatively small red* knots.  Best sawmill-delivered price I found around here for #2 logs was $0.40, or 14% of that price Selects get more, up to $600, but that's till only 21% and selects generally have 50%+ clear, knot-free lumber which might cost twice the #2 boards.  Loggers and landowners aren't getting much if anything from the huge lumber prices, but when those prices crash it's inevitable those guys will be asked to take a cut.

* Red knots are formed from still-living branches and don't fall out of the board.  Black knots, formed from dead branches, are loose and sometimes depart from the piece, and are allowed in #4 (and below) boards.

My uncle farms wheat and raises cattle in Texas west of Fort Worth. Wheat is about $7 a bushel. A bushel of wheat weighs 60 pounds. 60 pounds of wheat makes 42 pounds of flower. That’s about $45 worth of flour at Walmart. 
The cost of diesel to  run the tractor to sow the wheat, plow the ground to get it ready to sow, cost of fertilizer, paying to get it combined, grain storage fees, etc etc. is astronomical. His combine bill last year on 5000 acres was almost 30k. To put it in perspective, wheat was $5 a bushel....during the Nixon administration. Back in the 80’s it was $3. Small farmers can’t make it anymore.

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6 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

I’ve started reading this book and I highly recommend it for anyone with an open mind on how we can fix our monopolist society:

https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691177502/radical-markets

Ive read books like this in school. One was the communist manifesto.  No thanks. 

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9 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

I’ve started reading this book and I highly recommend it for anyone with an open mind on how we can fix our monopolist society:

https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691177502/radical-markets

It may be a very millennial thing for me to say, but it isn’t easy being a young up and coming adult in the United States these days.

Long gone are the days of a family of 8 getting by comfortably on the fathers truck driver salary. I read an article that if minimum wage kept up with inflation/cost of living, it would currently be around $24 an hour.

 

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14 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

It’s disgusting 

Yes learning about other ideologies should certainly be avoided.  Reading about something doesn’t mean you have to agree with it :lol:.  I don’t agree with it but would be open to reading it and trying to punch holes in it.

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4 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Yes learning about other ideologies should certainly be avoided.  Reading about something doesn’t mean you have to agree with it :lol:.  I don’t agree with it but would be open to reading it and trying to punch holes in it.

It’s so Karl Marxist / socialistic that it turns your stomach. Thankfully it’s so far out there that there’s about 4% of the population that would even think about it :lol:

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7 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

It’s so Karl Marxist / socialistic that it turns your stomach. Thankfully it’s so far out there that there’s about 4% of the population that would even think about it :lol:

It’s actually not but you don’t read so I would wouldn’t think you’d get passed the title. 

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Because I know some can only get their info from Tucky Carlson, here is a snipit:

I think the problem with the right is that it believes in the free market, which we absolutely believe in, but it doesn’t know what the market really is or what it requires to have a free market. It assumes that by going backwards to a totally monopolized and retrograde form of markets we’re going to get the dynamic free market of the future, which I think is deeply naïve and mistaken. I think they have a good goal in mind, having a truly free and competitive system, but they created systems that ignored the ways in which what they called markets actually led to concentrated forms of power, very similar to the forms of state power that they decried.

The left, on the other hand, also has good aims. It believes in greater equality and believes in breaking up concentrated corporate power, but it thinks it can trust in benevolent state actors to impartially execute this, which to me is just as naïve as trusting corporate actors or the owners of private property to somehow benevolently have the public interest in mind. Like the left, we want to reduce inequality, diffuse power more broadly, and have a more profound democracy, but we think that standard discretionary state power is a perfect way to reestablish the tyranny of the elite, precisely the same sort of oppression that they’re trying to alleviate

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Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Because I know some can only get their info from Tucky Carlson, here is a snipit:

I think the problem with the right is that it believes in the free market, which we absolutely believe in, but it doesn’t know what the market really is or what it requires to have a free market. It assumes that by going backwards to a totally monopolized and retrograde form of markets we’re going to get the dynamic free market of the future, which I think is deeply naïve and mistaken. I think they have a good goal in mind, having a truly free and competitive system, but they created systems that ignored the ways in which what they called markets actually led to concentrated forms of power, very similar to the forms of state power that they decried.

The left, on the other hand, also has good aims. It believes in greater equality and believes in breaking up concentrated corporate power, but it thinks it can trust in benevolent state actors to impartially execute this, which to me is just as naïve as trusting corporate actors or the owners of private property to somehow benevolently have the public interest in mind. Like the left, we want to reduce inequality, diffuse power more broadly, and have a more profound democracy, but we think that standard discretionary state power is a perfect way to reestablish the tyranny of the elite, precisely the same sort of oppression that they’re trying to alleviate

No politics.

:rolleyes:

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34 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

It may be a very millennial thing for me to say, but it isn’t easy being a young up and coming adult in the United States these days.

Long gone are the days of a family of 8 getting by comfortably on the fathers truck driver salary. I read an article that if minimum wage kept up with inflation/cost of living, it would currently be around $24 an hour.

 

Correct. I’ve read the same. It’s getting tougher for each generation.

 

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8 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

It’s so Karl Marxist / socialistic that it turns your stomach. Thankfully it’s so far out there that there’s about 4% of the population that would even think about it :lol:

You get a sugar cube, I get a sugar cube, we all get a sugar cube, ha.

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29 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Yes learning about other ideologies should certainly be avoided.  Reading about something doesn’t mean you have to agree with it :lol:.  I don’t agree with it but would be open to reading it and trying to punch holes in it.

And this is one of the biggest downfalls of our society nowadays. Political and ideological tribalism. Like Scooter says, go aliens.

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3 hours ago, Hoth said:

TSLA recognized $518 million of regulatory credits this quarter somehow lol. Okay. Ex that and non-recurring items like day trading bitcoin profits, TSLA lost a couple hundred million again. $800 billion market cap car company that makes less real money than a lemonade stand.

The grid will need 3x more power to realize the full potential of electric vehicles soon. The company is rapidly developing advanced batteries, solar panel systems too. It's not just cars. They aren't a car company. I know you must know this, but I feel many are downplaying what this company has already achieved. I mean, space x is straight launching people to the moon soon. 

It's also funny how no one cares if a regular car goes on fire. It happens a billion times a day. But if it's a tesla? Call CNN. 

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