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August 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread


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Morning thoughts...

In the wake of yesterday’s rainfall, the temperature fell to the coolest levels since near mid-June in parts of the region. At New York City, the temperature fell to 64 degrees, its coolest figure since June 17 when the temperature fell to 60 degrees. At Newark, the temperature fell to 64 degrees. The last time it was at least as cool there was on June 18 when the temperature dropped to 64 degrees.

After a cool start, temperatures will reach the upper 70s and lower 80s across the region today. Parts of the region could see some thunderstorms during the afternoon or evening hours.

Out west, intense heat will again topple records in parts of California, Arizona and Nevada. Death Valley reached 130 degrees yesterday. That smashed the August monthly record of 127 degrees, which was set on August 12, 1933 and tied on August 3, 1993 and August 1, 2017. That was also Death Valley’s hottest temperature since July 13, 1913 when the mercury reached 131 degrees. However, there are questions about the accuracy of the July 1913 temperatures, which were far above what would have been expected from temperatures reported on the same dates elsewhere in the region.

https://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/an-investigation-of-death-valleys-134f-world-temperature-record.html

Unlike in July 1913, many areas in the Southwest recorded daily and even monthly record high temperatures. One location recorded an all-time high temperature. In short, yesterday’s 130-degree temperature could have become the world’s highest reliably recorded temperature on record.

In addition, Phoenix reached 115 degrees. That was the 8th time this year that Phoenix reached 115 degrees or above. The prior record was 7 times in 1974.

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37 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

At White Plains, the temperature fell to 59 degrees this morning. That ended the 58-day stretch (June 20 through August 16) during which the minimum temperature was 60 degrees or above. The old record of 53 days was set during June 27 through August 18 in 2012.

I take it that streak of 70+ lows at LGA has come to an end too, as well as the streak of 55+ lows at MPO.  Not sure if the JFK streak is over?

Don do you have any rainfall totals or highest wind gusts from yesterday's "noreaster"?  Also I heard that parts of our area only made it into the 60s for highs?

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said:

Morning thoughts...

In the wake of yesterday’s rainfall, the temperature fell to the coolest levels since near mid-June in parts of the region. At New York City, the temperature fell to 64 degrees, its coolest figure since June 17 when the temperature fell to 60 degrees. At Newark, the temperature fell to 64 degrees. The last time it was at least as cool there was on June 18 when the temperature dropped to 64 degrees.

After a cool start, temperatures will reach the upper 70s and lower 80s across the region today. Parts of the region could see some thunderstorms during the afternoon or evening hours.

Out west, intense heat will again topple records in parts of California, Arizona and Nevada. Death Valley reached 130 degrees yesterday. That smashed the August monthly record of 127 degrees, which was set on August 12, 1933 and tied on August 3, 1993 and August 1, 2017. That was also Death Valley’s hottest temperature since July 13, 1913 when the mercury reached 131 degrees. However, there are questions about the accuracy of the July 1913 temperatures, which were far above what would have been expected from temperatures reported on the same dates elsewhere in the region.

https://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/an-investigation-of-death-valleys-134f-world-temperature-record.html

Unlike in July 1913, many areas in the Southwest recorded daily and even monthly record high temperatures. One location recorded an all-time high temperature. In short, yesterday’s 130-degree temperature could have become the world’s highest reliably recorded temperature on record.

In addition, Phoenix reached 115 degrees. That was the 8th time this year that Phoenix reached 115 degrees or above. The prior record was 7 times in 1974.

Yep that 130 degree temp will be the only verified 130 degree temp in recorded history.....

wow looks like 1993 was a historically hot summer both for Death Valley and for the east coast- that's a rarity!

 

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3 hours ago, bluewave said:

White Plains finally ended their record streak of 60° or warmer days. 

 


White Plains   PTCLDY    59  57  93 NW6     

 

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1 58 2020-08-16
2 53 2012-08-18
3 51 2008-08-15
- 51 1970-08-19
4 49 2016-08-21
5 45 1988-08-18
6 44 2019-08-07
- 44 2018-08-22
- 44 2005-08-17
7 42 2013-08-03

I take it LGA, JFK and MPO streaks are all over also?

 

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1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

I take it that streak of 70+ lows at LGA has come to an end too, as well as the streak of 55+ lows at MPO.  Not sure if the JFK streak is over?

Don do you have any rainfall totals or highest wind gusts from yesterday's "noreaster"?  Also I heard that parts of our area only made it into the 60s for highs?

 

 

 

Yes, LaGuardia's record-breaking 44-day streak (July 3 through August 15) during which the temperature remained at or above 70 degrees or above ended. The previous record was 34 days, which was set July 8 through August 10, 2006.

Islip had a high temperature of 69 degrees yesterday and White Plains only reached 68.

Rainfall totals were not impressive around the area.

 

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No topic on svr for the 5PM-midnight time frame in our area, especially CT, vcnty NYC and LI but to me  it continues to look pretty good.  CAPE arrives a little late in the day but with the wind at 500MB increasing and multimodels showing increasing convection in the 6P-11P time frame, not sure why it won't happen. You're welcome to add the reasons it won't.  For now no topic til we see how this evolves this afternoon. I'm looking for several svr reports in our area late today or this eve.

The second trailer batch between midnight and 4am may have gusty winds but should not be quite as strong as that of the 6P-8P time frame. 1044A/17

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1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

I take it LGA, JFK and MPO streaks are all over also?

 

The Islip streak continues....

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2 62 2015-08-28
3 61 2003-08-23
4 60 2020-08-16
5 58 2005-09-05
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75/60 amazing out after a dreary Sunday.  0.22 in the bucket.  Aside from some storms later today and Wed looking dry this work week. Highs generally in the low to mid 80s Mon - Fri (8/17 - 8/21).  Rockies Heat Dome in place through 8/20 before slowly nudging east into the plains. 

8/22 - 8/24

The western Atlantic ridge expands west by Friday and into the weekend allowing heights to come up and warmer air to produce th next opportunity for 90(s) in the area.  Looks like piece of stronger heat is shooting across from the west into early next week.  Have to watch the progression of the western ridge and if we get enough ridging to keep things on the hot side next week 8/24 and beyond.  Tropics coming to life in the Gulf later this week too.  Still think we see piece of the tremendous heat building out west eject east for a 2 day period.

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1 hour ago, bluewave said:

The Islip streak continues....

Number of Consecutive Days Min Temperature >= 60 
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funny thing about Islip- they had a low in the 60s and a high in the 60s on the same day :P

Interesting that their record is from 1967, as it was the summer before that (1966) that was the hottest on record up until then.

Did the LGA and MPO streaks end?  Did JFK have a streak ongoing also?

 

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1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

75/60 amazing out after a dreary Sunday.  0.22 in the bucket.  Aside from some storms later today and Wed looking dry this work week. Highs generally in the low to mid 80s Mon - Fri (8/17 - 8/21).  Rockies Heat Dome in place through 8/20 before slowly nudging east into the plains. 

8/22 - 8/24

The western Atlantic ridge expands west by Friday and into the weekend allowing heights to come up and warmer air to produce th next opportunity for 90(s) in the area.  Looks like piece of stronger heat is shooting across from the west into early next week.  Have to watch the progression of the western ridge and if we get enough ridging to keep things on the hot side next week 8/24 and beyond.  Tropics coming to life in the Gulf later this week too.  Still think we see piece of the tremendous heat building out west eject east for a 2 day period.

it would be tremendous if the two highs could connect......

 

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29 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

funny thing about Islip- they had a low in the 60s and a high in the 60s on the same day :P

Interesting that their record is from 1967, as it was the summer before that (1966) that was the hottest on record up until then.

Did the LGA and MPO streaks end?  Did JFK have a streak ongoing also?

 

LGA ended their 70° streak yesterday. JFK finally dipped below 65° today. MPO dropped to 52° ending their longest 55° streak. The margin  on the new MPO record was even bigger than the LGA one.Very impressive for around 1900 feet elevation in NE PA.

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1 62 1980-09-07
2 59 2015-08-27
3 57 2020-08-16
4 52 2011-08-22
5 47 2019-08-10

 

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3 32 1980-08-15
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5 28 2010-07-30
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18 minutes ago, bluewave said:

LGA ended their 70° streak yesterday. JFK finally dipped below 65° today. MPO dropped to 52° ending their longest 55° streak. The margin  on the new MPO record was even bigger than the LGA one.Very impressive for around 1900 feet elevation in NE PA.

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1 62 1980-09-07
2 59 2015-08-27
3 57 2020-08-16
4 52 2011-08-22
5 47 2019-08-10

 

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3 31 2013-07-23

 

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2 34 2006-08-10
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4 29 2018-08-19
5 28 2010-07-30

Yes I needed to wear a heavy blanket and close the windows! awww we missed the record at JFK by only 5 days!  I assume EWR and NYC weren't near any records?

 

 

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49 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Yes I needed to wear a heavy blanket and close the windows! awww we missed the record at JFK by only 5 days!  I assume EWR and NYC weren't near any records?

 

 

The record 65° streak for EWR and NYC ended this morning.

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2 58 2005-09-05
3 57 2018-09-07
4 55 1906-08-31
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Tropical page is beginning to become active... does look interesting middle and end of next week up to at least 35N. I didn't say "promising" but for me, interesting in the form of moisture 27th-29th. We'll see how long this is worth monitoring for our area? 10 days out, should say enough for the uncertainty. 423P/17

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1 hour ago, wdrag said:

Tropical page is beginning to become active... does look interesting middle and end of next week up to at least 35N. I didn't say "promising" but for me, interesting in the form of moisture 27th-29th. We'll see how long this is worth monitoring for our area? 10 days out, should say enough for the uncertainty. 423P/17

As long as I’m finally on the west side of it and don’t have to deal with more massive tree loss and power outages, I’m good. Give me the 3-5” rain anyday over some showers with the high wind. 

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Passing this on to those who can access digital VIL.. if we you get a value over 35,  specially for 2 or 3 scans... look for hail.  We have some hail up here in Sussex County around 535PM, Frankford Township...size unknown.  That was also our first thunder of the day here in Wantage, despite two previous shower episodes. Now at 623P... total rainfall .20.  Not like some stripes of heavier showers over an inch. I see a decent storm approaching Manville NJ and radar does detect small hail from that one. 

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Interesting next 3 hours NYC area and LI.  Cell mergers... Intense rainfall in a few spots with 1" and maybe some pea sized hail and gust 40-50 MPH.  Something to watch for as your modeled available CAPE looks decent.  Also, whether this verifies, unlikely...but the HRRR is producing a near svr gust in Ulster County around 05z.  Kind of late at night but i see a second band overnight. 643P/17 thunder and rain. 

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