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Observations of snow, sleet, freezing rain Sun-Tue Dec 1-2-early 3

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Just now, winterwx21 said:

We were 1 degree above freezing with heavy snow. If that happened at 7pm rather than noon time, it would have accumulated on the pavement. That's a fact.

Where are you located ?

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Just now, Logan11 said:

It's more to do with the residual heat in the ground. 

Agree especially in the city. I'm starting to see it accumulate because the sun is going down. 

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Just now, hudsonvalley21 said:

We'll see where the banding sets up. There is some more development south of eastern LI let's see how much it develops and pinwheels back around.

It's not a slam dunk  but people do this all the time during storms. 

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3 minutes ago, Snow88 said:

Check out the radar and get back to me. There are always people who quit during a storm. It's so stupid.

Let the system play out.  Sun is going down and the snow will start sticking better.  Long ways to go for this one.

Like I said, not saying it's over, but if it doesn't redevelop then it absolutely is. Otherwise, don't know what radar you're looking at or what window you're looking out of. Admire your adamant loyalty to optimism though. 

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2 minutes ago, Snow88 said:

Worrying about the sun angle on Dec 2 is plain dumb. The surface temps is the problem now. 

This banter about the "sun angle" reminded me of that thermometer I buried. It's reading 37 degrees. Air temp is 36.

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8 minutes ago, hudsonvalley21 said:

Agree, this set up comes down to now casting. Not everyone will win here. But some think they should win every time.:lol:

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Even if the banding and accumulation doesn't improve around sunset, the real losers of this storm are EPA (widespread 4-8 and 6-10 calls which turned into virtually nothing). Even CNY fell a little short of expectations with a widespread 8-12 rather than the 10-16 which had been forecasted. SNE is at risk of a pretty significant bust as well.

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Still snowing pretty good here in Brooklyn. Roads and sidewalks are starting to become slushy with cars getting  covered. We should get accumulations once it gets dark.

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11 minutes ago, Snow88 said:

Agree especially in the city. I'm starting to see it accumulate because the sun is going down. 

LOL. You said it was dumb of me to bring up sun angle, but then you say your snow is starting to accumulate because the sun is going down. Too funny. I am in Piscataway NJ. We had a few hours of HEAVY snow earlier today but in mainly just accumulated on colder surfaces. The pavement stayed wet for a long time, and then just a slushy dusting. If it was night it would have EASILY accumulated on pavement. But it was middle of the day (sun angle), the pavement had residual warmth and it was 1 degree above freezing. So unfortunately we lost a lot of accumulation. Now we're going into night but radar doesn't look good. The bands have shifted north and east of here. I wish we could have gotten that heavy band at night. It came down SO heavily here early afternoon, but we don't have much to show for it. Frustrating.

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The ull didnt even go under the city yet. The precip rates should increase when that  does.

I better get a few inches tonight

 

I stayed up every night for the Euro and then woke up at 7am for the overnight models.

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21 minutes ago, Snow88 said:

Check out the radar and get back to me. There are always people who quit during a storm. It's so stupid.

Let the system play out.  Sun is going down and the snow will start sticking better.  Long ways to go for this one.

Tony, stop leading people on. The radar looks terribly anemic. Mount Holly scaling everything back.

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It snowed hard for about half an hour in midtown, started to see some slush on the roads and it has lightened up considerably since. It looks like the lower end of totals will verify. 

Not that I'm complaining, the last thing I wanted was a repeat of last years' nightmare November snowstorm commute.

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Radar returns are unimpressive.  I’d say we are close to done up here in central Westchester.  Dry slotted.  Wet 2.5 inches here is all.

Interesting storm, but overall the models struggled at best.  

Light mist 33 right now.  

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2 minutes ago, Enigma said:

Tony, stop leading people on. The radar looks terribly anemic. Mount Holly scaling everything back.

Who is leading people on ? People will still get a few inches but the big totals will not happen.

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30/29/ENE freezing mist and snow grains. I have a little over a half inch of frozen material since the beginning of the event that's slowly getting covered with snow. Everything is coated in .2-.3" of ice. You know that crackly sound you get under high power lines? That's what it sounds like outside.

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Anyone in these areas can confirm the heavy snow?

Special Weather Statement
National Weather Service New York NY
335 PM EST Mon Dec 2 2019

NJZ004-006-103>108-NYZ072>075-176-178-022130-
Hudson-Eastern Union-Eastern Essex-Western Bergen-Western
Union-Western Essex-Eastern Bergen-Eastern Passaic-Kings
(Brooklyn)-Northern Queens-Southern Queens-Bronx-New York
(Manhattan)-Richmond (Staten Is.)-
335 PM EST Mon Dec 2 2019

...AN AREA OF HEAVY SNOW WILL AFFECT HUDSON...EASTERN PASSAIC...
UNION...BERGEN...ESSEX...QUEENS...RICHMOND...BRONX...KINGS AND NEW
YORK (MANHATTAN) COUNTIES...

At 332 PM EST, an area of heavy snow was located over New York City,
moving west at 10 mph. Snowfall rates of 1 to 2 inches per hour are
possible in this band of moderate to heavy snow. Visibilities will
drop quickly in the snow and may be reduced to less than a mile at
times.

Locations impacted include...
New York, Newark, Jersey City, Paterson, Elizabeth, Passaic, Bayonne,
Wayne, Hoboken, Bloomfield, Hackensack, Linden, Bergenfield, Paramus
and Ridgewood.

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I'm going to keep watching the radar trends and just see what happens. All of you can call bust right now. If I get burned , so be it.

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