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Observations of snow, sleet, freezing rain Sun-Tue Dec 1-2-early 3

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If the 1.6 total holds, and I did see the same on the 5PM update, 1.3 on the second and 0.3 on the third, Central Park now needs only 16.1 inches of snow between now and December 31, 2020 to get the 30 year average to 30.0 inches per season when they are calculated again in Jan 2021.

This would be much more in line with the 150 year average of 28.9, and a nice recovery from the all time low 22.3 average from 1971-2000.

Will they nickel and dime their way there, or do it in one nice big event ? Or God forbid do they fall short?

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~2.5 here in southern Jersey City. Not official. 

Snow had no problems sticking during the heavier rates. Streets were a mess for the most part during the afternoon. 

Most of my accumulation happened during the afternoon where about 2" fell. Rest fell overnight as some moderate bands pivoted through.

Overall, not a bad storm(IMO) Snowed for maybe 14 hours straight. I'll take that over prtly sunny ANY day. Congrats to those who cashed in

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Finally got home to see what I got, first at my old house in wantagh there appeared to be a decent amount more snow then both the city and my new place in Lynbrook. Further analyzing the snow there was very little base crusty layer in wantagh which means as I suspected it all fell with the overnight batch with cooler temps. I could see it having been over 2” before melting and compaction yesterday

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1 hour ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Finally got home to see what I got, first at my old house in wantagh there appeared to be a decent amount more snow then both the city and my new place in Lynbrook. Further analyzing the snow there was very little base crusty layer in wantagh which means as I suspected it all fell with the overnight batch with cooler temps. I could see it having been over 2” before melting and compaction yesterday

I saw pics from Long Beach in the early morning and it looked like an inch or so. There were good radar echos in southern Nassau Mon night so I would think some people there had 2-3”. 

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30 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

I saw pics from Long Beach in the early morning and it looked like an inch or so. There were good radar echos in southern Nassau Mon night so I would think some people there had 2-3”. 

Yeah I would say it was over two at my parents place. They are right near the bay. Rare south shore jackpot 

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2 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

Finished with 6" in Mahwah, NJ

 Very nice yanks, finished with 2 inches here in Armonk. A lot less than I thought I would but at least we’re in the books. 

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3 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Finally got home to see what I got, first at my old house in wantagh there appeared to be a decent amount more snow then both the city and my new place in Lynbrook. Further analyzing the snow there was very little base crusty layer in wantagh which means as I suspected it all fell with the overnight batch with cooler temps. I could see it having been over 2” before melting and compaction yesterday

1.5" here, all from Monday night.  It snowed during the day also but not much and shut down quickly once when it was about starting to glaze over things.  Only 0.15" LE after 9AM Monday, so ratios Monday evening were probably at least 12:1.  Total LE for the entire event was only 0.49" going back to Sunday morning, so if it was a couple of weeks later and a little colder this still would have been a fairly minor event here.

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17 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

1.5" here, all from Monday night.  It snowed during the day also but not much and shut down quickly once when it was about starting to glaze over things.  Only 0.15" LE after 9AM Monday, so ratios Monday evening were probably at least 12:1.  Total LE for the entire event was only 0.49" going back to Sunday morning, so if it was a couple of weeks later and a little colder this still would have been a fairly minor event here.

Yeah, I guess the same in wantagh. In the city we lost a ton during the day to melting so that would have been a solid event. The front end would have went to rain on the coast regardless of time of year 

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3 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah I would say it was over two at my parents place. They are right near the bay. Rare south shore jackpot 

Definitely not a south shore jackpot...most of Suffolk saw 2-3", from Commack, to Orient to Montauk.

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49 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

1.5" here, all from Monday night.  It snowed during the day also but not much and shut down quickly once when it was about starting to glaze over things.  Only 0.15" LE after 9AM Monday, so ratios Monday evening were probably at least 12:1.  Total LE for the entire event was only 0.49" going back to Sunday morning, so if it was a couple of weeks later and a little colder this still would have been a fairly minor event here.

Interesting. Maybe your proximity to the sound affected accumulations. Pretty solid consensus of 2"+ area wide. I had 2.3" on my patio table, which is in the middle of the yard. Consistent with measurements in the area. 

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6 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah, I guess the same in wantagh. In the city we lost a ton during the day to melting so that would have been a solid event. The front end would have went to rain on the coast regardless of time of year 

In a colder airmass with more of a high, there would have been more precip due to more overrunning (although it would have fought dry air). A setup like this where a deep upper air low drives southerly flow in would have changed us over, but it would've been 4-6" first rather than what we had, maybe even more-I believe the 2/3/14 event was driven by a deep upper low with strong southerly flow like this and much of NYC/LI had 10" (although in Long Beach I just had a few inches then rain-infuriating). Also as feared we spent most of the storm in the dry slot, and the redevelopment happened in a lousy spot for us. 

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On 12/4/2019 at 12:07 PM, psv88 said:

Interesting. Maybe your proximity to the sound affected accumulations. Pretty solid consensus of 2"+ area wide. I had 2.3" on my patio table, which is in the middle of the yard. Consistent with measurements in the area. 

That definitely happens very early in the season (i.e., usually before Thanksgiving) but I don't think so this time.  We were snowing at times when other parts of the island that picked up more snow were raining.  It would snow, then it would stop for hours.  Overnight Sunday was the only rain (most of the qpf that we got).  Most of the time during this "long duration" storm, it wasn't doing anything.  We just were unlucky with the quantity of LE.

For comparison, our storm total LE was 0.49", ISP was 0.84" and Syosset was 0.93" .  

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4 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said:

That definitely happens very early in the season (i.e., usually before Thanksgiving) but I don't think so this time.  We were snowing at times when other parts of the island that picked up more snow were raining.  It would snow, then it would stop for hours.  Overnight Sunday was the only rain (most of the qpf that we got).  Most of the time during this "long duration" storm, it wasn't doing anything.  We just were unlucky with the quantity of LE.

For comparison, our storm total LE was 0.49", ISP was 0.84" and Syosset was 0.93" .  

LE here was 0.74" on Sunday and 0.50" Monday into tues.... 1.24" total.

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On 12/4/2019 at 5:40 PM, jm1220 said:

In a colder airmass with more of a high, there would have been more precip due to more overrunning (although it would have fought dry air). A setup like this where a deep upper air low drives southerly flow in would have changed us over, but it would've been 4-6" first rather than what we had, maybe even more-I believe the 2/3/14 event was driven by a deep upper low with strong southerly flow like this and much of NYC/LI had 10" (although in Long Beach I just had a few inches then rain-infuriating). Also as feared we spent most of the storm in the dry slot, and the redevelopment happened in a lousy spot for us. 

yeah thats why I preferred 14-15 over 13-14

 

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On 12/4/2019 at 7:25 AM, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Finally got home to see what I got, first at my old house in wantagh there appeared to be a decent amount more snow then both the city and my new place in Lynbrook. Further analyzing the snow there was very little base crusty layer in wantagh which means as I suspected it all fell with the overnight batch with cooler temps. I could see it having been over 2” before melting and compaction yesterday

did you sell the Wantagh house to relatives or friends?  I did the same thing with a house I had in Oyster Bay and visit my old haunts often lol.  They get MUCH more snow and it aggravates me to no end :P

 

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1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

Lee said it was down to 1.0" on the news.  I was shocked when I heard that.

 

He may have misspoke. Fortunately, the 1.6” figure is listed in the climate record.

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