Morch Madness Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Congrats Duluth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Albert A Clipper said: Oh, the trough will drop down tomorrow... bet your bottom dollar that the EURO ... will show sommmeeee... just thinking about tomorrow... clears away the frustration and the sorrow... till there's noneeee... the EURO, the EURO, we love ya, the EURO.... Winter's always 10 days awayyyyyy.... Lol, just watched Annie with my family on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, eyewall said: It is that time for sure. Euro makes perfect sense, timing wise, seeing as though we would be heading into a holiday ski week after that. PF approved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 19 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: For precip, the wettest winter in ORH is 1957-1958. For most rainfall, I'd guess 1978-1979...we don't really have records for ptype though. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 This season is skunked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 17 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: This season is skunked. Have you mentioned already that this season is a ratter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Done. Time to move to Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, weathafella said: Done. Time to move to Florida. You were feeling a ratter back in like September, you should have stuck with your gut call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Typhoon Tip said: I've been trying to stay away from that specific thinking process in my posts about the high(ish) heights in the deep south. Mainly for fearing knee jerk vitriol that would ensue ... Again, (also said this a week or two ago) we keep posting that it is "the southeast ridge" ; what I am seeing is more than a southeast ridge. Heights from the south of Japan clear to the Americans and east to western Africa are higher than normal by a modest amount; still a key amount that as the seasonal heights normally pressed S with the cooling of the northern latitudes, that resulting gradient was been "too much". The consequence of more than the normal number of those geopotential lines is increasing(ed) wind velocities. That physically does a few things that are not good ... I've been noticing the GEFS wanting to relax that in the Atlantic at the end of the run lately. The GEPS, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 At least it's 7 days out. Oh boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 freezing temps into southern Louisiana while the CRV tickles 60. sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 No blocking in the ATL like last year is killing us once again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: No blocking in the ATL like last year is killing us once again.... We had no blocking in 13-14 and 14-15. The pacific is the issue and lack of stable +pNA or -EPO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: We had no blocking in 13-14 and 14-15. The pacific is the issue and lack of stable +pNA or -EPO Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 We could get away with imperfections if we had blocking though....so in that sense, the lack of ATL blocking does hurt...it makes us completely dependent on the Pacific. Hell, when we got that little pseudo west-based -NAO from that Hudson Bay block last week, we managed at least a half-decent even over the interior from a completely repulsive airmass and PAC pattern. So that is how a -NAO can help...also in a pattern like the 1/12/11 storm that epic month, the first part of the month there actually had some pretty big western troughing but that epic NAO block just shoved all of it south as it tried to progress eastward and we basically bowling balled our way to a MECS/HECS. No argument that the PAC is more important, but it's definitely not the only game in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolMike Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Is there any hope for the clown range storm the middle of next week? The long wave set-up seems to have shifted west. Is even NNE already out of the game? I'm still hoping for some sort of miraculous recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 8 days out...I mean anything is possible at this stage. Wouldn't lock anything good or bad 8 days away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 48 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: We had no blocking in 13-14 and 14-15. The pacific is the issue and lack of stable +pNA or -EPO But if we had a -NAO wouldn't that help to off-set the Pacific? I feel like we can work with one if the other isn't agreeable. It probably isn't just the Pacific's fault is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, powderfreak said: But if we had a -NAO wouldn't that help to off-set the Pacific? I feel like we can work with one if the other isn't agreeable. It probably isn't just the Pacific's fault is it? Will just answered that exact question just a few posts up..the answer is yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, CoolMike said: Is there any hope for the clown range storm the middle of next week? The long wave set-up seems to have shifted west. Is even NNE already out of the game? I'm still hoping for some sort of miraculous recovery. actually yes ... hence "clown range" people's patience are nearing an end, however, so... expect a lot of irrational hostility and /or general bs on this and/or other forums that are primarily peopled by those with that an odd border-line or outright dysfunctional psychological codependency on snow/winter storms - we laugh; that's what it is.. annywho, the 18z GFS was really very close to being a pretty big ice storm. As is, not - but close! It still takes the storm through the Lakes, but it is also stronger with lead side polar anticyclone over mid Ontario..If that lead high gets so much as 6 mb stronger, and the storm its self travels just a little more east of it's current Detroit transit, you got power outage outta that sort of a correction. Anyone tossing hands as though that correction is automatically not going to happen at this sort of time range needs to do us all a favor and toss themselves off the forum ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I Just can't take all this talk about false ice storms . I need one so bad and they're always discussed as models hinting or showing and never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Excellent post Tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 33 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: We could get away with imperfections if we had blocking though....so in that sense, the lack of ATL blocking does hurt...it makes us completely dependent on the Pacific. Hell, when we got that little pseudo west-based -NAO from that Hudson Bay block last week, we managed at least a half-decent even over the interior from a completely repulsive airmass and PAC pattern. So that is how a -NAO can help...also in a pattern like the 1/12/11 storm that epic month, the first part of the month there actually had some pretty big western troughing but that epic NAO block just shoved all of it south as it tried to progress eastward and we basically bowling balled our way to a MECS/HECS. No argument that the PAC is more important, but it's definitely not the only game in town. Very well said.. Bottom line, we need a mechanism for cold delivery - pick the poison, but you without it, no party. That's the gist of it.. We are not native to a latitude that can do it just based upon our latitude. We do better than say ... D.C., but that's just because we are close enough to source wagons to hitch a ride more readily than they are. When the pattern pulls cold and even prevents us... we still cook. Bitter reality I know - There used to be the preponderant false impression that it was all about -NAO ... I used to hammer no no no the Pac is the primary loading pattern for cold; the NAO is an important assist. Midriff Canada does create enough of it's own cold though, that a -NAO can do it alone ...but in that paradigm, the Pac can't be against it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, powderfreak said: But if we had a -NAO wouldn't that help to off-set the Pacific? I feel like we can work with one if the other isn't agreeable. It probably isn't just the Pacific's fault is it? Yes, but I am clearing up the misconception that it's just the ATL blocking. It's not. Blocking is done UFN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Will just answered that exact question just a few posts up..the answer is yes. Yeah just see this now...I should read more before posting hah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Yeah just see this now...I should read more before posting hah. I do the same thing too lol...no worries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 What a fukking ratter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Why don't we see how it looks come mid month? A bit early to call full on ratter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 That Euro run is wild. Cold to 60 dews and severe wx squall line followed by lake streamers and 20's the following g day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I forgot which cutter it was this winter, but there was a Euro run or 2 that showed that same setup with 60's and dews in New Eng and it ended up being a weak secondary south of LI that gave snow to ice to rain..and some places NW zones stayed below freezing entire event.There's always hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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