moneypitmike Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Today definitely has that classic cold season WNW flow lake effect streamer/upslope appeal to it with occasional rain showers and gusty winds. If this were winter, we'd probably be getting snow showers instead with an inch or two of accumulation. 49° F, but much cooler in the higher elevations. I am the process of securing a plot of land up at 2,230' of elevation on the east slope of the southern Green Mountains about 35 miles north of my current location, so it should be a big upgrade in the snow department from where I am now. I'm guessing they probably average between 110" and 120" per year there according to some of the nearby COOP data. I'm hoping to build on it either next year or in 2016. Righteous, Mitch. You'll sit pretty unrivaled in SF department (PF at the top of the hill would do better, but not in town I imagine?). 46.1/40 occasional rn- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Righteous, Mitch. You'll sit pretty unrivaled in SF department (PF at the top of the hill would do better, but not in town I imagine?). 46.1/40 occasional rn- We'd probably be pretty similar if he was in the 110-120" range. My range since living here at 750ft for 4 winters is from 151" in 2010-2011 to 90" in 2011-2012.Up at the office at 1500ft would be hard to beat at 160-170". There are two gradients in play up here, elevation and proximity to the Spine axis. It's a sharp gradient as the office at the base of the ski resort gets 4 more feet than town and it's only 4-5 miles away. JSpin and I have joked that it seems like a foot per mile in seasonal difference on the east side where the gradient is sharper than the west slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Euro is back a little bit for NNE, but looks best for Quebec with the track of the 850 and 700mb lows. VT gets a 2-4 event on the back end if you were to actually believe the clown map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Not along the ocean and nearby coastal plain. I haven't frozen yet and I'm 5 miles inland. BOS-no but yes on uhi, BVY? I think not, PYM? Don't think so yet. Exclude OWD because they along with MVY are among the best radiators around.PYM had one.Edit: got to at least 32 for a couple of hours, but don't recall if lower. It's still been mild overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Winni had a freeze in spots too, just not near torchconia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Did have a freeze near downtown Westerly last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Winni had a freeze in spots too, just not near torchconia. Ahhh I was just going by Eek's obs (but maybe he borrows BTV's heat lamps at night lol)...have they had a sub-32 freeze in other spots around there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 And that...is why I chose my profession over the alternative Isallobaric wind equation. In simple terms, it's a wind component that is perpendicular to the isobars and is directed toward the area of greatest pressure falls. It's essentially a response to rapidly deepening low pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Euro is back a little bit for NNE, but looks best for Quebec with the track of the 850 and 700mb lows. VT gets a 2-4 event on the back end if you were to actually believe the clown map. The 12z GFS would just destroy the Champlain Valley and western slopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Ahhh I was just going by Eek's obs...have they had a sub-32 freeze in other spots around there?Yeah...anywhere away from the water. Eek is one of the warmer spots like LCI and the Lakeport COOP. I've been below 32.0F twice with an extreme of 30.1F so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Eek-land will not be avoiding a freeze next weekend, but Eek will while in EYW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Point is it wasn't uhi related. PYM must measure in a low spot back from the ocean. Lots of places haven't frozen yet. Average first 32 for BOS is 11/7 in 1971-2000 climo. Not sure if it's different now with the later database. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 The 12z GFS would just destroy the Champlain Valley and western slopes. Its a fun solution to imagine the meso-scale factors that would be in play with that set up. Orographics would be significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Ahhh I was just going by Eek's obs (but maybe he borrows BTV's heat lamps at night lol)...have they had a sub-32 freeze in other spots around there? Up at my parents on the Center Harbor/moultonboro line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Eek-land will not be avoiding a freeze next weekend, but Eek will while in EYW. Yeah that cold shot wouldn't spare anyone...not the windy hill tops, the lake and ocean shores, the mid-slopes, UHI, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Point is it wasn't uhi related. PYM must measure in a low spot back from the ocean. Lots of places haven't frozen yet. Average first 32 for BOS is 11/7 in 1971-2000 climo. Not sure if it's different now with the later database. Most of SE MA away from the beaches gets pretty cold at night. The Cape and SE mA have probably had colder readings than metro west. BOX for whatever reason didn't get the memo, but they have had several frosts and freezes. But I agree it's been mild overall for night mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Congrats Mitch, that's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Wintry weekend and hopefully that GFS depiction of 60 knot winds works out as well FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY... STILL UNCERTAINTY WITH HOW AMPLIFYING TROF EVOLVES AND WHERE CLOSEDLOW ACTUALLY DEVELOPS. GFS AND ECMWF IN PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT ON LOWCLOSING OFF TO THE NORTH WHICH WOULD LIMIT IMPACT ON SNE...BUT WEARE STILL 5 TO 6 DAYS AWAY AND THINGS CAN CHANGE. MODELS KEEPHEAVIER QPF WELL TO THE NORTH AND WE WILL JUST HAVE CHC RAIN/SNOWSHOWERS FRI NIGHT INTO SAT WITH MOSTLY DRY WEATHER SUNDAY. HIGHESTCONFIDENCE FOR NEXT WEEKEND IS UNSEASONABLY COLD TEMPS AND BLUSTERYCONDITIONS WITH MAXES ONLY IN THE 40S AND EVEN SOME 30S IN THEHIGHER TERRAIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 That's why I chose it. It should capitalize in both situations. Granted I won't get as much of the NW flow stuff as you do, but I should still get some. However, that location should do best with a nice, juicy coastal that has a ripping easterly LLJ that upslopes as it hits the east side of the spine. In sum, it's far enough south to get in on some of the coastals, but far enough north to still do fairly well in a SWFE pattern like '07-'08, and has enough topography to still get quite a bit of orographic enhancement. It's only 15-20 minutes from North Adams and 45-50 minutes from Pittsfield, so I can get to places fairly easily. I can't wait to spend my first winter up there. I'll definitely take some weenie trips up there this winter. MITCH!!! that's awesome!!! congrats you're the ultimate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Only think keeping me sane are these potent cold shots we've had this month..Days like today with biting chill and wind reminding us it's fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Only think keeping me sane are these potent cold shots we've had this month..Days like today with biting chill and wind reminding us it's fallthis is meh cold for this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Only think keeping me sane are these potent cold shots we've had this month..Days like today with biting chill and wind reminding us it's fall It's been mild but rather October like in general. Seasons in seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Only think keeping me sane are these potent cold shots we've had this month..Days like today with biting chill and wind reminding us it's fall50F in late October is biting chill? Normal high at ORH is 55...The appeal is fall though for sure, just gotta remember normals are dropping almost daily at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Only think keeping me sane are these potent cold shots we've had this month..Days like today with biting chill and wind reminding us it's fall Just a brutal chill today. BDL managed a +3.5 on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Just a brutal chill today. BDL managed a +3.5 on the day.nice snow at Kmart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Beautiful rainbow today,my friend took the pic of it in Scotland Ct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 nice snow at KmartYeah we were talking about the snow in the NNE thread... mini-upslope event with the CAA moving in.Here's one from Mansfield... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Damn that's a potent NNE Vortmax,could be fun times for our Northern brethren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Damn that's a potent NNE Vortmax,could be fun times for our Northern brethren Like to see the vort at H5 dig further south as it goes right over head on the 18z GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Like to see the vort at H5 dig further south as it goes right over head on the 18z GFSJay Peak Sugarloaf get crushed, big upslope for Greens too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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