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September Nor'Easter Obvs Thread


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19 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Did they? Damn :lol: 

Nobody is saying this is historic, btw. It's not even top 25 for fall nor'easters probably. It's just a solid storm breaking the monotony. 

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CON 110mph
EWR 108
HFD 100
NYC 94
BDR 88
ALB 83
HVN 77

https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/mwre/78/11/1520-0493_1950_078_0204_tdson_2_0_co_2.pdf

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8 hours ago, vortex95 said:

Fallacious argument. 

The trouble w/ the "ppl are dying!" argument is that it essentially dictates that anything less than death is trivial and not worth discussing.  That is among the most vapid and intellectually lazy rebuttals around.

Can you objectively say these fatalities would not have occurred anyway if there were more reaonsble and less-hyped warnings?

Not every fatality is due to not enough warnings or alerts.  Many ppl will ignore warnings and go out/take risks despite warnings b/c they have become apathetic to the relentless hype.   Some ppl just plain resist authority/being told what to do.  And some do take warnings seriously, stay home, and a tree crashes into their home, causing a fatality.  All the warnings in the world is not going to prevent something like that from happening.

So I would avoid the high-horse, virtue signaling here and understand that more is not always better and things are not a simple 1-1 correlation when it comes to complex societal issues.
 

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37 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Did they? Damn :lol: 

Nobody is saying this is historic, btw. It's not even top 25 for fall nor'easters probably. It's just a solid storm breaking the monotony. 

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Didn’t the 1950 storm happen in November? Seems like an apples to oranges comparison.

Not sure if this type of record keeping exists but would like to see where this storm ranks in terms of September nor’easters. Probably hard to track that given the number or remnant tropical, subtropical, and hybrid systems there are this time of year.

I feel like most official forecasts were within reason. It’s the social media clickbait posting 90 MPH gusts on the RRFS-A that kind of leak into the “hype” narrative here…

Will be a memorable storm for many just based on rainfall.

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38 minutes ago, jbenedet said:

-NAO developing…

I’d take the over on slower ejection northeast and more blocking from the NB high. 

Therefore take the over on rainfall totals, where the training has already set up along the coast.

Impressive +PNA index by October 10.  Does the PNAP respond ...?   

In November I'd say we're looking at an early winter trigger with this...   Mid October?  not so sure.   

Anyway, multi-source/ heavily agreed upon +3 SD and it's showing up on the actualized ensemble means as an unusually deep and convincingly spatially involving negative anomaly N/NE of HA in the Pacific.   It's also been been growing in coherence ... probably should put this in the October thread.  

This strike me as a primitive telecon outlook/and attempt by the hemisphere to yet again ... snow in October.  

I gotta say... I saw it snow in October ..almost never in my first three decades living either in southern lower Michigan or SNE.  Since ~ 2005? at least half the Octobers, particularly in the last 15 years, have hosted either a snow or a cryo-supporting atmosphere.  Snowing in November has increased as well... though the startling nature of it is October - in no small part because it'll be snowing with still autumn foliage in the backdrops.    20 years worth ... let's see if we can add another October to the swelling sample size.     

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8 minutes ago, bristolri_wx said:

Didn’t the 1950 storm happen in November? Seems like an apples to oranges comparison.

Not sure if this type of record keeping exists but would like to see where this storm ranks in terms of September nor’easters. Probably hard to track that given the number or remnant tropical, subtropical, and hybrid systems there are this time of year.

I feel like most official forecasts were within reason. It’s the social media clickbait posting 90 MPH gusts on the RRFS-A that kind of leak into the “hype” narrative here…

Will be a memorable storm for many just based on rainfall.

I was just pointing out an extremely rare example of times winds can rival stronger TS's or canes.. BDR sustained 60mph in 1950 and 74mph in Gloria

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5 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Was that a cane?  Cuz those numbers are absolutely insane. Especially those inland numbers, holy smokes. 

The Great Appalachian storm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Appalachian_Storm_of_1950

We were in the warm sector. That was a LLJ on roids…east flow and we were pulling near hurricane force sustained. Then the cold front went through from the south toward midnight…we had CAA from southerly flow, but the wind diminished behind the cold front. There was a point the next morning where it was snowing at BDR and raining at BDL. 

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10 minutes ago, dendrite said:

The Great Appalachian storm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Appalachian_Storm_of_1950

We were in the warm sector. That was a LLJ on roids…east flow and we were pulling near hurricane force sustained. Then the cold front went through from the south toward midnight…we had CAA from southerly flow, but the wind diminished behind the cold front. There was a point the next morning where it was snowing at BDR and raining at BDL. 

Wow, 57 inches in Pickens

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16 minutes ago, dendrite said:

The Great Appalachian storm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Appalachian_Storm_of_1950

We were in the warm sector. That was a LLJ on roids…east flow and we were pulling near hurricane force sustained. Then the cold front went through from the south toward midnight…we had CAA from southerly flow, but the wind diminished behind the cold front. There was a point the next morning where it was snowing at BDR and raining at BDL. 

CAA from the south….that ain’t something you see very often.  That certainly was one for the record books Thanks for the info. 

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51 minutes ago, dendrite said:

The Great Appalachian storm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Appalachian_Storm_of_1950

We were in the warm sector. That was a LLJ on roids…east flow and we were pulling near hurricane force sustained. Then the cold front went through from the south toward midnight…we had CAA from southerly flow, but the wind diminished behind the cold front. There was a point the next morning where it was snowing at BDR and raining at BDL. 

That’s hard to mentally compute those winds at stations like CON, HFD, ALB… like what?  

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