Kmlwx Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Continuing discussion and eventually observations/nowcast posts for the Monday severe weather event potential can go here. @WxUSAF or other mods please pin this thread if you get the chance. 15% TOR and 60% WIND are extremely rare in these parts. While I am not downplaying anything - I do think the appearance of 60% wind has a lot to do with the new SPC outlook methodology. Nonetheless, an active weather day tomorrow seems on tap. Usual failure modes still exist (stabilizing cloud cover or early day showers) The shear environment is pretty insane. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Wow, haven’t seen this in a while. Maybe August 2023 was the last moderate risk day here? At least the QLCS holds off until after school dismissal and kids have a chance to get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailylurker Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 19 minutes ago, SomeguyfromTakomaPark said: Wow, haven’t seen this in a while. Maybe August 2023 was the last moderate risk day here? At least the QLCS holds off until after school dismissal and kids have a chance to get home. Very impressive setup. Especially for March. Looks like a pretty exciting event. I still wish I was up in the UP for the blizzard. If I wasn't back to my busy season I would be up in Marquette right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George BM Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Well hello there pinned severe thread. First time we've done one since February 25, 2017 IIRC when Ian made one for that event (That event produced an EF-1 in La Plata IIRC). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imgoinhungry Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Looks like a bit of a later start per nam and hrrr recent runs? Hopefully no impact to school dismissal. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago SPC ...Carolinas into MD/PA and vicinity... Areas of showers may occur early in the day especially but should rapidly lift north, allowing areas of heating and gradual destabilization over the entire area. As the surface trough deepens, low-level wind will back and strengthen throughout the day. Supercells producing tornadoes appear most likely ahead of the cold front from SC into NC and southern VA. Models vary with degree of instability, but strong tornadoes do appear possible with effective SRH of at least 300-400 m2/s2. Fast storm motions over 50 kt suggest a long tracked tornado will be possible. Meanwhile, a robust line of storms will develop as the cold front pushes east, stretching from the Carolinas to southern NY. With a moist air mass and large-scale support, this line is expected to produce particularly damaging winds, along with QLCS tornadoes across the remainder of SC/NC, VA, MD, and much of southern PA. This will likely peak during the late afternoon hours. The activity may eventually interact with cool trajectories off the Atlantic during the evening. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago WB 6Z 3K NAM for Monday evening starting at 5 pm 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 06z HRRR had a UHI track from Dulles right to York, PA, another right over DC< and two more through Stafford and La Plata. Wow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Cross posting in here 23 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSN+ Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 19 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: 06z HRRR had a UHI track from Dulles right to York, PA, another right over DC< and two more through Stafford and La Plata. Wow. Urban heat island? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 59 minutes ago Share Posted 59 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, TSSN+ said: Urban heat island? lol Updraft Helicity Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted 47 minutes ago Share Posted 47 minutes ago Thinking I might chase tomorrow. Any met want to tell me a good grounding location? I was thinking orange VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted 46 minutes ago Author Share Posted 46 minutes ago Just now, SnowenOutThere said: Thinking I might chase tomorrow. Any met want to tell me a good grounding location? I was thinking orange VA If you do, please be careful. Fast storm motions will make this potentially chaotic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted 45 minutes ago Author Share Posted 45 minutes ago 57 minutes ago, Imgoinhungry said: Looks like a bit of a later start per nam and hrrr recent runs? Hopefully no impact to school dismissal. . I do think linear convective systems in our region tend to roll through a bit earlier than even short range models predict. There are exceptions, of course - but with a solid line - it wouldn't shock me to see it bump 1-3 hours earlier as we close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted 42 minutes ago Share Posted 42 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, Kmlwx said: If you do, please be careful. Fast storm motions will make this potentially chaotic. I have no interest in 0 metering. More a storm structure guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailylurker Posted 38 minutes ago Share Posted 38 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said: Thinking I might chase tomorrow. Any met want to tell me a good grounding location? I was thinking orange VA Urban chasing is tricky. I try to target areas where there's a less traffic but a good road system. Let use north Maryland for example. 70 is good for getting in but not for chasing an actual tornado. I chased out by Thurmont in Carroll County. Good roads, good views, and no traffic mayhem. You don't want to be stuck in traffic with an ef 3 tossing cars and coming at you. Watch for trees. I take my chainsaw just in case I need to cut my way out. Be careful and good luck. Btw. I'm not a met. I'm just nuts about weather lol. I'd join you if I wasn't working. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted 36 minutes ago Author Share Posted 36 minutes ago Going to wait until 12z models before I do my little write-up for my office. While a ton of people at work (including in management) read my emails - they seldom apply my messaging to their actual decision making - which I don't blame them since I'm a weather weenie. But so far it has burned them a few times (during snow events) when they've closed too late (once people were already at the office) or haven't closed early enough in the afternoon leading to people having 3-5 hour commutes. I've *never* seen them release early for something other than snow...And I'm physically onsite tomorrow until 5:30pm. Great....with no windows too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted 25 minutes ago Author Share Posted 25 minutes ago CSU MLP mostly held steady with wind but maybe tailored back the TOR risk just a touch. I'm not entirely shocked - and I've been thinking even with some models showing pre-line cells, that this would be a wind dominated event with some brief QLCS spinnys. Nonetheless - I think SPC is hitting the threat level very well! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSN+ Posted 19 minutes ago Share Posted 19 minutes ago 39 minutes ago, yoda said: Updraft Helicity Index Ya I was kidding haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSN+ Posted 15 minutes ago Share Posted 15 minutes ago 10 minutes ago, Kmlwx said: CSU MLP mostly held steady with wind but maybe tailored back the TOR risk just a touch. I'm not entirely shocked - and I've been thinking even with some models showing pre-line cells, that this would be a wind dominated event with some brief QLCS spinnys. Nonetheless - I think SPC is hitting the threat level very well! I’m interested to see how this plays out. I think this looks more realistic than the 60% wind. At least into Maryland maybe more impressive over central/eastern VA and NC. To me it doesn’t look all that impressive on models. I hope I’m right and we don’t get widespread wind damage. I don’t want to be without power for an unknown amount of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted 3 minutes ago Author Share Posted 3 minutes ago 11 minutes ago, TSSN+ said: I’m interested to see how this plays out. I think this looks more realistic than the 60% wind. At least into Maryland maybe more impressive over central/eastern VA and NC. To me it doesn’t look all that impressive on models. I hope I’m right and we don’t get widespread wind damage. I don’t want to be without power for an unknown amount of time. Well one thing is - I wonder if those CSU-MLP maps have to be adjusted to account for the new SPC methodology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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