mappy Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Morning clouds and rain always bodes well for severe later 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 13 minutes ago, mappy said: Morning clouds and rain always bodes well for severe later It will clear off at 12:52pm and be sunny for exactly one hour and 22 min. That will give enough time for one cell to form near Winchester to miss east coast npz and give a severe warning to leesburgtownville up to Frederick. Then a dc split will happen with one red box over laurel for broad rotation on radar 2 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midatlanticweather Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, H2O said: It will clear off at 12:52pm and be sunny for exactly one hour and 22 min. That will give enough time for one cell to form near Winchester to miss east coast npz and give a severe warning to leesburgtownville up to Frederick. Then a dc split will happen with one red box over laurel for broad rotation on radar Well here in Purcellville we may get a warning... and have it dropped as downslope of the Blue Ridge/Mount Weather (probably some Government experiment, but keep that a secret) splits it and then reforms exactly like you said! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenkinsJinkies Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 13 minutes ago, H2O said: It will clear off at 12:52pm and be sunny for exactly one hour and 22 min. That will give enough time for one cell to form near Winchester to miss east coast npz and give a severe warning to leesburgtownville up to Frederick. Then a dc split will happen with one red box over laurel for broad rotation on radar Translation you have a flight at 1:14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 47 minutes ago, H2O said: It will clear off at 12:52pm and be sunny for exactly one hour and 22 min. That will give enough time for one cell to form near Winchester to miss east coast npz and give a severe warning to leesburgtownville up to Frederick. Then a dc split will happen with one red box over laurel for broad rotation on radar lol sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSN+ Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, mappy said: Morning clouds and rain always bodes well for severe later Suns coming out in Charlestown so let’s see how this goes. HRRR been getting more robust each run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanbrad Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago SPC quite late with their 9AM D1 outlook update, wondering if they've been waiting on some additional model data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, batmanbrad said: SPC quite late with their 9AM D1 outlook update, wondering if they've been waiting on some additional model data? It shows up here - https://kamala.cod.edu/SPC/ Well, the discussion does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, yoda said: Morning discussion from LWX DISCUSSION... KEY MESSAGE 1...Severe weather is possible, mainly east of the Blue Ridge this afternoon into early evening. A slow-moving cold front arcs down the Saint Lawrence River Valley to the lower Great Lakes back into the central Great Plains. To the south, a largely stationary front was attempting to lift slowly northward as a warm front, and stretched from the Carolinas back to Oklahoma. Showers and thunderstorms were persistently trekking west to east along the northern front, with a weak surface low and MCV/shortwave crossing Illinois. This shortwave will be the impetus for convective development across the Mid-Atlantic later today as the local area sits in between the two aforementioned fronts. Most instability this morning is rather weak and elevated in nature, but is expected to increase rapidly in the I-95 corridor from south to north as higher moisture air advects into the area, as well as near the Appalachians ahead of an approaching shortwave, both by late this morning. For now, weak lift and CAPE is keeping things limited to a few WAA showers near the metros. Additional development, perhaps even deeper convective cores, is possible by as early as late morning given the anticipated rapid increase in CAPE and lift. Flow aloft is seasonably strong by late August standards, with a 100+ knot 300 hPa jet streak expected to pivot over the Saint Lawrence River Valley into northern New England by evening. The tail of this upper jet may actually strengthen and persist near the Mason-Dixon Line early this evening, which could briefly enhance large scale ascent locally via RRQ dynamics. In the mid levels, the previously mentioned shortwave has trended notably deeper and a bit slower over the last 12-24 hours. This brings the axis of the shortwave, its enhanced flow, and PVA across the Appalachians around midday, then across areas near and east of the Blue Ridge/Catoctin Mountains east to I-95 and the Chesapeake Bay during peak heating. In addition to bringing large scale ascent, this pushes effective deep layer bulk shear into the 35- to 50-knot range later today (highest north/northeast). Shear of this magnitude is favorable for sustained, organized updrafts, including line segments and supercells (discrete or line-embedded). Thermodynamically, the atmosphere will be very moist, especially further east. Strong low-level theta-e advection is expected to persist through early evening ahead of the approaching shortwave and cold front. Widespread clouds will limit heating somewhat, especially west of the Blue Ridge where the storm threat is notably less, but with the strong low-level moisture advection and slow-but-steady cooling aloft, the net result should be about 1000-2000 J/kg MLCAPE in the moist plume east of the Blue Ridge heading into this afternoon, possibly as early as late morning. The moist low-level advection beneath cooling aloft may also result in re-generative CAPE and multiple rounds of thunderstorms in any one location. This would be most likely from near the DC metro north and east where large scale ascent is strongest, with the added component of enhanced low-level convergence along bay or river breezes (and eventually composite outflow boundaries). Finally, PWs will approach or exceed 2 inches in the moist axis near and east of I-95 this afternoon into early evening. Deep warm cloud layers in the high PW airmass will yield heavy to extreme instantaneous and sub-hourly rainfall rates in the stronger precip cores. Individual cell motion is expected to be progressive (30-40 mph) given enhanced flow through the column and the potential for modest cold pool development with any persistent cells, clusters or line segments. However, the wavy slow-moving front approaching from the north may lie close to parallel to the mean steering flow at times, especially when modulated by outflow from potential multiple rounds of storms. This, coupled with the bay breeze which often takes on a similar orientation, plus the urban footprint that has seen heavy rain recently raises a (primarily urban/poor drainage) flash flood risk over the I-95 corridor in northeast Maryland, including the Baltimore area. The threat is a bit more conditional further south and west into areas like Annapolis and the DC/Capital Beltway region; these areas also feature urban sprawl and inherently lower FFG, but the training potential is more conditional based on favorable outflow or cell interactions given slightly further displacement from the synoptic front(s) and bay breeze. Multiple hazards are possible today, and are outlined below. Damaging Wind... Straight-line/downburst winds are likely the highest threat today, at least from an areal coverage standpoint. Tall, skinny CAPE profiles with modest pockets of mid-level dry air yield DCAPE of 600-800 J/kg, which would be marginally favorable for strong to severe downdrafts. Background mid-level flow may approach 40 knots around 700 hPa. With the high PW air and modest DCAPE, water-loaded downdrafts via precip drag would be possible especially with any bowing line segments or collapsing mesocyclones/mesovorticies. The lack of steeper lapse rates (hence modest DCAPE) should keep most wind gusts within the strongest storms in the 55-70 mph range, with more widespread 40-55 mph potential. Given heavy precip and late summer, leafed- up trees, would anticipate scattered to numerous instances of tree and branch falls and subsequent power outage potential. The risk is highest near and east of I-95 where storms are most likely to become linear and be a bit more intense, since they`re further east in the moist axis with a little more time to heat. To the west, especially west of the Blue Ridge, less moisture and heating should keep the coverage of more intense storms low. Tornadoes... A conditional risk for a brief spin-up is evident for most areas east of the Blue Ridge given the magnitude of low/mid-level flow and high PWs/lower LCLs. Relatively greater tornado potential may exist closer to the front near the I-70 corridor east of Frederick where surface winds will be backed and low-level SRH will be higher, especially in close proximity to the bay breeze along the western shore of the Chesapeake Bay into northeast MD. Potential would be further maximized by (1) discrete supercells occurring earlier when the synoptic low-level winds remain backed and SRH is higher on a broad scale, and (2) with any favorable QLCS surge/mesovortex interactions with residual outflow or the bay breeze. Although unlikely due to a lack of stronger 0-1 km shear/SRH and steeper lapse rates, robust 3CAPE near the bay could result in a conditional risk for a strong tornado if all of the above factors were to coalesce. Flash Flooding... We have been in a wetter pattern recently, but the majority of the region is still in or just coming out of drought. Poor drainage and urban areas are susceptible to heavy rain, especially the intense sub-hourly rates possible today, regardless. Additionally, areas near and just northeast of Baltimore have seen multiple episodes of heavy rain over the last few weeks. Individual storms should move pretty swiftly, but the slowing southwest end of any lines or clusters would orient parallel to the nearby surface front, bay breeze, and mean steering flow. This brings a risk of flash flooding to northeast MD in particular, with a more conditional risk further south and west into the greater DC metro. Hail... Although lapse rates aloft will be modest at best given the moist profiles, supercellular shear and modest mid-level cooling will be favorable for at least some marginal/spotty severe hail potential. Should mid-level shear/cooling be more potent or cells be more discrete, the hail risk could increase, but this seems unlikely given the otherwise tropical-esque airmass. The threat for severe weather and flooding appears highest between 2 PM this afternoon and 8 PM this evening, progressing west to east in one or two rounds. However, it may start a couple hours earlier further west (or on the bay breeze), and could linger through late evening over southern Maryland. By later this evening, the departure of large scale lift and the loss of daytime heating should end the severe/flood threat. This is one of the best read ups I’ve read in a bit! We’ll have to see how the situation evolves with our cape ml lapse rates improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago LWX will do an 18z SPEC sounding per SPC request - in updated morning AFD 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 29 minutes ago, yoda said: LWX will do an 18z SPEC sounding per SPC request - in updated morning AFD Given the tornado risk east of I-95, this is justified. I could see a tornado watch going up east of here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, SnowenOutThere said: This is one of the best read ups I’ve read in a bit! We’ll have to see how the situation evolves with our cape ml lapse rates improving. Agreed. Fantastic AFD. The team at LWX is top notch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted 52 minutes ago Author Share Posted 52 minutes ago Crapvection around now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted 35 minutes ago Share Posted 35 minutes ago 15 minutes ago, Kmlwx said: Crapvection around now Are you at Chipotle? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted 28 minutes ago Author Share Posted 28 minutes ago 7 minutes ago, ravensrule said: Are you at Chipotle? Qdoba > Chipotle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 8 minutes ago Share Posted 8 minutes ago Well thats interesting... 30%wind and 5% tornado moved westward, now includes DC metro on 1630z OTLK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 6 minutes ago Share Posted 6 minutes ago Oh... um hello there CIG 1 hatching 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex95 Posted 6 minutes ago Share Posted 6 minutes ago 14 hours ago, Eskimo Joe said: Do you think this is an I-95 and east event, or are the western suburbs in play? It seems just E of I95 and just S and SE of the metro is always "in play!" The way I approach it now is, "is the area between a line from DCA and IAD and about 15 mi to the N in play b/c this area seems most variable and gets the shaft, relatively speaking, more often that not. Probably due to the location from things like downslope from the Appalachians, but it seems very dependent on the mean flow. W and WNW seems to be not good often (DC split), but of course, this is just a broad view. Subtle differences in the mesoscale can be huge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 4 minutes ago Share Posted 4 minutes ago Day 1 Convective Outlook NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 1133 AM CDT Thu Aug 20 2026 Valid 201630Z - 211200Z ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC...PARTS OF THE SOUTHEAST...AND FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS INTO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY... ...SUMMARY... Scattered severe storms are possible this afternoon into this evening across parts of the Mid Atlantic, posing a risk for a couple of tornadoes and damaging wind gusts. Large hail and isolated wind damage will be possible late today into tonight with severe storms from Nebraska into northwest Wisconsin. Scattered damaging gusts are possible over parts of the Deep South this afternoon into the early evening. ...Central Appalachians into the Mid-Atlantic... Radar mosaic late this morning showed a couple of weak convectively related vorticity maxima moving east across the central and southern Appalachians (i.e., southwest PA, eastern KY). One of these lead disturbances was sampled by the WSR-88D VAD at Jackson, KY, with an upstream shortwave trough over the OH Valley moving towards the Mid-Atlantic states. The airmass across the Mid-Atlantic into the Carolinas will continue to heat amid patchy but thinning cloud cover. Model guidance shows moderate buoyancy developing by early to mid afternoon from the southern Appalachians northward into the northern Mid-Atlantic region. A belt of stronger 700-500 mb westerly flow (30-45 kt) will overspread the northern half of VA northward into PA/NJ. Beneath this stronger flow, southerly low-level flow veering and strengthening with height will support hodographs favorable for organized severe storms, including supercells and organized line segments. The latest model guidance shows a few simulated supercells developing in the area centered over MD and the upper Chesapeake Bay vicinity during the 20-00z timeframe. This scenario seems plausible given some low-level enlargement to the hodograph and effective shear around 40 kt. A tendency for upscale growth into a line segment is expected as this activity moves east towards the coast during the evening. A couple of supercell tornadoes are possible with this activity, in addition to a line-embedded mesovortex and scattered damaging gusts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now