SACRUS Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 11 / 8 - snow (about 2.9 on the ground). Cold / snow / mix later. Cold - frigid week with overall cold below - much below avg. Some moderation between 2/3 - 2/6 before cold returns. If the 1994 like pattern continues - would expect another bout of snow/ice in the next 7-9 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Don, I think we will see our coldest (60% non-stat based) NYC CP temp since 2019 of 1 or 2 above between Wed-Sat. Your odds? I am seeing MOS and 2M temps missing too warm on mins NYC. I use GFS/EC 2M blend for the countryside low, but typically those models dont handle the urban very well. In this case, now that we have so much fresh snow on the ground... it should be relatively easy to get down to near zero in the city on one of these nights. Noting MOS errors significantly too warm for the city the past two mornings. Your stats-impressions on this possibility? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Records: Highs: EWR: 59 (2024) NYC: 60 (1967) LGA: 57 (2024) JFK: 55 (2024) Lows: EWR: -1 (1935) NYC: 2 (1945) LGA: 2 (1945) JFK: 5 (1961) Historical: 1821 - The Hudson River was frozen solid during the midst of the coldest winter in forty-one years. Thousands of persons crossed the ice from New York City to New Jersey, and refreshment taverns were set up in the middle of the river to warm pedestrians. (David Ludlum) 1837 - At 7 PM a display of the Northern Lights danced above Burlington, VT. Its light was equal to the full moon. Snow and other objects reflecting the light were deeply tinged with a blood red hue. Blue, yellow and white streamers were also noted. (The Weather Channel) 1937: Las Vegas, Nevada dropped to 8 degrees above zero, setting a record low for the city. 1949: Las Vegas, Nevada, recorded 4.7 inches of snow. This brought the monthly snowfall total to 16.7 inches which still ranks as their snowiest month on record 1965 - Alta, UT, was in the midst of a storm that left the town buried under 105 inches of snow establishing a record for the state. (David Ludlum) 1987 - The second major storm in three days hit the Eastern Seaboard producing up to 15 inches of snow in Virginia, Maryland and Delaware. Up to 30 inches of snow covered the ground in Virginia following the two storms. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - High winds created blizzard conditions in the mountains of Colorado. Winds gusted to 109 mph at Echo Lake, and a wind gust to 193 mph was reported atop Mount Evans. A "nor'easter" moving up the Atlantic Coast spread heavy snow from the Carolinas to New England, with as much as 16 inches reported in the Poconos of eastern Pennsylvania. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - Bitter cold air, coming down from Alaska, settled over the Northern Rockies. Wilson WY reported a morning low of 48 degrees below zero. Thunderstorms produced severe weather in the south central U.S. One thunderstorm in north central Texas spawned a tornado which injured three persons at Troy. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1990 - Low pressure developed explosively over east central Missouri and moved into Lower Michigan producing high winds and heavy snow across parts of Iowa, Illinois and Wisconsin. Wind gusts to 60 mph and up to a foot of snow created near blizzard conditions in southeastern Wisconsin and northern Illinois. Wind gusts in Indiana reached 76 mph at Wabash. Thunderstorms associated with the storm produced wind gusts to 54 mph at Fort Madison IA. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 2000 - Heavy snow fell from the Carolinas to New England, with up to 20 inches of snow and five deaths reported. (NCDC) Jan 25, 2000: 5.6 inches of snowfall (combo of mix / dry slotted kept totals down) Other areas 6 - 12 inches, more north and the mid atlantic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago The EPS-AIFS forecast for the system next weekend is to track just offshore as it looks like the ridge-trough axis is currently forecast to be a little too far east. It’s indicating that the we may see a mean retrogression in the 500mb height field in early February. So the next system closer to the 6th is currently forecast to be closer to the coast. We’ll see how this goes since the longer range Euro AI models did a great job with today’s winter storm. The regular Euro and GFS suites were too suppressed. Plus the AIFS single and ensembles are the new highest scoring models. https://www.ecmwf.int/en/newsletter/178/news/aifs-new-ecmwf-forecasting-system 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago yeah, we have seen this signal grow since yesterday 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eduggs Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago The ECMWF-AIFS Ens not withstanding, it looks like we're back to an all-northern stream "pattern." It's a shame we can't get another southern stream wave to turn the corner. Looks cold and dry. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, bluewave said: The EPS-AIFS forecast for the system next weekend is to track just offshore as it looks like the ridge-trough axis is currently forecast to be a little too far east. It’s indicating that the we may see a mean retrogression in the 500mb height field in early February. So the next system closer to the 6th is currently forecast to be closer to the coast. We’ll see how this goes since the longer range Euro AI models did a great job with today’s winter storm. The regular Euro and GFS suites were too suppressed. Plus the AIFS single and ensembles are the new highest scoring models. https://www.ecmwf.int/en/newsletter/178/news/aifs-new-ecmwf-forecasting-system ALSO, AI modeling basic benefit is for patterns... the global's are for physics higher res etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Eps shows snow for feb 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboLeader1 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, eduggs said: The ECMWF-AIFS Ens not withstanding, it looks like we're back to an all-northern stream "pattern." It's a shame we can't get another southern stream wave to turn the corner. Looks cold and dry. 30-DAY OUTLOOK DISCUSSION FOR FEB 2026 The February 2026 outlooks are issued against the backdrop of a La Niña Advisory and the potential emergence of an enhanced Madden Julian Oscillation (MJO) signal. La Niña conditions are present but are likely (75 percent chance) to transition to the El Niño Southern Oscillation (ENSO) neutral phase during the current January-February-March (JFM) season. The latest weekly Niño 3.4 index was at -0.8 degrees Celsius, which is still in La Niña territory. However, at depth, a pool of warmer than normal water has been steadily expanding eastward from the western Pacific, consistent with a potential transition to ENSO neutral conditions. Meanwhile, the magnitude of the real-time multivariate MJO index has been increasing in recent days in the Western Pacific. By the start of February, most of the European Centre for Medium Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF) ensemble members predict this emerging MJO event to propagate to the Western Hemisphere/Africa or the Indian Ocean. Recent analysis of extratropical indices show that the Arctic Oscillation (AO) and the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) have been mostly negative in early January (although both have trended closer to zero in the past few days). The Pacific North America (PNA) index has transitioned from the negative to the positive phase during the first half of January. Combined natural analog composites derived from the recent evolution of these tropical (ENSO and MJO) and extratropical (AO, NAO, and PNA) drivers depict a 500-hPa flow pattern dominated by anomalous ridging over the northeastern Pacific, off the west coast of North America. Downstream troughing is favored over the west-central CONUS while above normal heights are more likely across the Southeast. Weakly below normal heights are favored across the western Bering Sea. This combined natural analog composite is remarkably similar to trends during the last 15 years, which also favor increased ridging across the northeastern Pacific and the Southeast, and below normal heights over the northern tier of the west-central CONUS. Natural analog composites, trends , and dynamical guidance from the Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S), North American Multi-Model Ensemble (NMME), the Climate Forecast System Version 2 (CFSv2), and the Forecast Consolidation Tool (CON) (which includes both dynamical model input and statistical guidance) form the basis of the February outlooks. The latest CPC Weeks 3-4 Outlooks and associated ensemble guidance from the ECMWF, Global Ensemble Forecast System (GEFS), and the CFSv2 also contributed. Antecedent conditions such as extratropical SSTs, sea ice extent, and snow cover anomalies were also considered where appropriate. Statistical guidance is supportive of potential widespread anomalous cold air outbreaks across much of the Lower 48 states during February. However, dynamical model guidance is much warmer, particularly across the southern two-thirds of the CONUS. This dichotomy between the colder statistical and warmer dynamical model guidance results in increased uncertainty in the February temperature outlook. However, given the strong agreement between recent trends , ENSO, MJO, and extratropical analogs on the potential for anomalous cold across much of the northern and central CONUS, below normal temperatures are favored for much of these regions. The greatest confidence for below normal temperatures (40 to 50 percent chance) is indicated for the Northern High Plains, where statistical guidance shows the strongest signal. Conversely, statistical and dynamical model guidance are in good agreement in favoring above normal temperatures across the southeastern CONUS, with probabilities of warmer than normal conditions exceeding 50 percent across the Florida Peninsula. A second, but weaker, area of enhanced above normal temperature probabilities is posted for parts of the Southwest and Southern California due primarily to dynamical model guidance. Above normal SSTs off the west coast of the CONUS may also assist in increasing chances of above normal temperatures for coastal locations of Southern California. Enhanced probabilities of above normal temperatures were kept weak for this region as statistical guidance is much less supportive of increased warmth relative to dynamical model guidance. Above normal temperatures are favored across western Alaska due to very good support from statistical guidance. However, dynamical model support is relatively weak, so probabilities of above normal temperatures are only modestly increased. Conversely, below normal temperatures are weakly favored for most of Southeast Alaska and adjacent areas of the southeastern Mainland, consistent with C3S model output with some support from natural analog composites (especially across Southeast Alaska). Although the current La Niña is likely to transition to ENSO neutral at some point during JFM 2026, statistical and dynamical model precipitation guidance still generally reflect a La Niña signature for the month of February. Above normal precipitation is favored from the Northern Rockies, Northern High Plains, and parts of the Pacific Northwest southeastward to northern portions of the Central Rockies and Central High Plains. The greatest likelihood of above normal precipitation (greater than 50 percent chance) is indicated across parts of the Northern Rockies and adjacent High Plains, where both statistical and dynamical model guidance is in good agreement. A second region where above normal precipitation is favored is the Great Lakes, Ohio Valley, adjacent areas of the interior Northeast, and the Upper and Middle Mississippi Valley, consistent with La Niña Composites as well as with dynamical model guidance, especially the C3S. Typical of La Niña, below normal precipitation is more likely across the southwestern and southeastern CONUS. The forecast favoring drier than normal weather across these two regions has good dynamical model support from the NMME. Above normal precipitation is favored for all of western Alaska. Dynamical model guidance is in good agreement in depicting increased chances of above normal precipitation across northwestern Alaska while statistical guidance generally supports an extension of this signal southward to southwestern Alaska. Conversely, a tilt of probabilities toward below normal precipitation is indicated for Southeast Alaska and adjacent areas of the southeastern Mainland due primarily to dynamical model support, especially from the C3S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, eduggs said: The ECMWF-AIFS Ens not withstanding, it looks like we're back to an all-northern stream "pattern." It's a shame we can't get another southern stream wave to turn the corner. Looks cold and dry. Check 12z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxoutlooksblog Posted 52 minutes ago Share Posted 52 minutes ago 39 minutes ago, LoboLeader1 said: 30-DAY OUTLOOK DISCUSSION FOR FEB 2026 The February 2026 outlooks are issued against the backdrop of a La Niña Advisory and the potential emergence of an enhanced Madden Julian Oscillation (MJO) signal. La Niña conditions are present but are likely (75 percent chance) to transition to the El Niño Southern Oscillation (ENSO) neutral phase during the current January-February-March (JFM) season. The latest weekly Niño 3.4 index was at -0.8 degrees Celsius, which is still in La Niña territory. However, at depth, a pool of warmer than normal water has been steadily expanding eastward from the western Pacific, consistent with a potential transition to ENSO neutral conditions. Meanwhile, the magnitude of the real-time multivariate MJO index has been increasing in recent days in the Western Pacific. By the start of February, most of the European Centre for Medium Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF) ensemble members predict this emerging MJO event to propagate to the Western Hemisphere/Africa or the Indian Ocean. Recent analysis of extratropical indices show that the Arctic Oscillation (AO) and the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) have been mostly negative in early January (although both have trended closer to zero in the past few days). The Pacific North America (PNA) index has transitioned from the negative to the positive phase during the first half of January. Combined natural analog composites derived from the recent evolution of these tropical (ENSO and MJO) and extratropical (AO, NAO, and PNA) drivers depict a 500-hPa flow pattern dominated by anomalous ridging over the northeastern Pacific, off the west coast of North America. Downstream troughing is favored over the west-central CONUS while above normal heights are more likely across the Southeast. Weakly below normal heights are favored across the western Bering Sea. This combined natural analog composite is remarkably similar to trends during the last 15 years, which also favor increased ridging across the northeastern Pacific and the Southeast, and below normal heights over the northern tier of the west-central CONUS. Natural analog composites, trends , and dynamical guidance from the Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S), North American Multi-Model Ensemble (NMME), the Climate Forecast System Version 2 (CFSv2), and the Forecast Consolidation Tool (CON) (which includes both dynamical model input and statistical guidance) form the basis of the February outlooks. The latest CPC Weeks 3-4 Outlooks and associated ensemble guidance from the ECMWF, Global Ensemble Forecast System (GEFS), and the CFSv2 also contributed. Antecedent conditions such as extratropical SSTs, sea ice extent, and snow cover anomalies were also considered where appropriate. Statistical guidance is supportive of potential widespread anomalous cold air outbreaks across much of the Lower 48 states during February. However, dynamical model guidance is much warmer, particularly across the southern two-thirds of the CONUS. This dichotomy between the colder statistical and warmer dynamical model guidance results in increased uncertainty in the February temperature outlook. However, given the strong agreement between recent trends , ENSO, MJO, and extratropical analogs on the potential for anomalous cold across much of the northern and central CONUS, below normal temperatures are favored for much of these regions. The greatest confidence for below normal temperatures (40 to 50 percent chance) is indicated for the Northern High Plains, where statistical guidance shows the strongest signal. Conversely, statistical and dynamical model guidance are in good agreement in favoring above normal temperatures across the southeastern CONUS, with probabilities of warmer than normal conditions exceeding 50 percent across the Florida Peninsula. A second, but weaker, area of enhanced above normal temperature probabilities is posted for parts of the Southwest and Southern California due primarily to dynamical model guidance. Above normal SSTs off the west coast of the CONUS may also assist in increasing chances of above normal temperatures for coastal locations of Southern California. Enhanced probabilities of above normal temperatures were kept weak for this region as statistical guidance is much less supportive of increased warmth relative to dynamical model guidance. Above normal temperatures are favored across western Alaska due to very good support from statistical guidance. However, dynamical model support is relatively weak, so probabilities of above normal temperatures are only modestly increased. Conversely, below normal temperatures are weakly favored for most of Southeast Alaska and adjacent areas of the southeastern Mainland, consistent with C3S model output with some support from natural analog composites (especially across Southeast Alaska). Although the current La Niña is likely to transition to ENSO neutral at some point during JFM 2026, statistical and dynamical model precipitation guidance still generally reflect a La Niña signature for the month of February. Above normal precipitation is favored from the Northern Rockies, Northern High Plains, and parts of the Pacific Northwest southeastward to northern portions of the Central Rockies and Central High Plains. The greatest likelihood of above normal precipitation (greater than 50 percent chance) is indicated across parts of the Northern Rockies and adjacent High Plains, where both statistical and dynamical model guidance is in good agreement. A second region where above normal precipitation is favored is the Great Lakes, Ohio Valley, adjacent areas of the interior Northeast, and the Upper and Middle Mississippi Valley, consistent with La Niña Composites as well as with dynamical model guidance, especially the C3S. Typical of La Niña, below normal precipitation is more likely across the southwestern and southeastern CONUS. The forecast favoring drier than normal weather across these two regions has good dynamical model support from the NMME. Above normal precipitation is favored for all of western Alaska. Dynamical model guidance is in good agreement in depicting increased chances of above normal precipitation across northwestern Alaska while statistical guidance generally supports an extension of this signal southward to southwestern Alaska. Conversely, a tilt of probabilities toward below normal precipitation is indicated for Southeast Alaska and adjacent areas of the southeastern Mainland due primarily to dynamical model support, especially from the C3S. I'm not yet convinced we are going back to an all northern stream based pattern though we might temporarily. In the long run for February I think there will be a semi active subtropical jet and that we get at least one or two southern stream or phase-up storm systems up our way. WX/PT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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