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OBS/Totals for 12/26-27 Storm


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5 minutes ago, winterwarlock said:

Well mt holly doesnt cover north of nyc

This is the nyc metro area discussion forum. Not the mount holly discussion. I am specifically discussing how just because the nam nailed one area and completely failed in another doesnt mean its worth any more weight than another model that failed here and nailed down there. That argument literally makes no sense and its just pessimistic nonsense by people who are (rightfully) upset ahout their snow not happening.

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30 minutes ago, winterwarlock said:

Epic bust for them..why did they double down

The event is not over. And bust is harsh because snow forecasts are always difficult.

That said, I'm not sure what people were looking at. NAM and ECM signaled the northeast shift with the mid-level lows north of Lake Ontario and surface low into WNY. Then the HRRR continuing to trend right to go time made it clear. It should have been pretty obvious unless you were willfully deluding yourself.

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Snowing moderately to heavily here in Bayside, Queens. Mesoscale discussion mentions rates of 1-2” per hour. We definitely have that now, but sleet is on NYC’s doorstep. Certainly wasn’t supposed to sleet this early. Congrats to the Nam, we could have actually hit 8” if it snowed like this for most of the night. I’d cut totals in half at this rate. Reminds me of the early February 2025 storm where NYC and Long Island got 3-6” but it was a sleet and ice storm in New Jersey. Gfs lol 

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Just now, eduggs said:

The event is not over. And bust is harsh because snow forecasts are always difficult.

That said, I'm not sure what people were looking at. NAM and ECM signaled the northeast shift with the mid-level lows north of Lake Ontario and surface low into WNY. Then the HRRR continuing to trend right to go time made it clear. It should have been pretty obvious unless you were willfully deluding yourself.

True but even the least snowy model run gave NYC 3 or so inches so anything less than that is truly an epic bust.

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Last time NYC did better than Suffolk was 2/1/21, where we got 18-20” but LI mixed for a lot of the storm and got like 12.” Aside from that, they always seem to win. Still very pretty outside regardless. Id expect up to 10” in mid Hudson valley, they always jackpot too 

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1 minute ago, Krs4Lfe said:

Last time NYC did better than Suffolk was 2/1/21, where we got 18-20” but LI mixed for a lot of the storm and got like 12.” Aside from that, they always seem to win. Still very pretty outside regardless. Id expect up to 10” in mid Hudson valley, they always jackpot too 

LI is also further north than NYC once you get into Suffolk. 

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1 minute ago, BxEngine said:

This is the nyc metro area discussion forum. Not the mount holly discussion. I am specifically discussing how just because the nam nailed one area and completely failed in another doesnt mean its worth any more weight than another model that failed here and nailed down there. That argument literally makes no sense and its just pessimistic nonsense by people who are (rightfully) upset ahout their snow not happening.

The nam is a blind squirrel that does find an acorn every now and then with mid level warmth. It's also wrong most of the time with everything else hence why it is being replaced. It had me at 2 inches at this time and I have 5. 

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Just now, HeadInTheClouds said:

The nam is a blind squirrel that does find an acorn every now and then with mid level warmth. It's also wrong most of the time with everything else hence why it is being replaced. It had me at 2 inches at this time and I have 5. 

The nam definitely still does better in the mid levels than most of our other options, and shouldnt be ignored. But its a huge fail north of where that warm push initially made it to. 

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2 minutes ago, Krs4Lfe said:

Last time NYC did better than Suffolk was 2/1/21, where we got 18-20” but LI mixed for a lot of the storm and got like 12.” Aside from that, they always seem to win. Still very pretty outside regardless. Id expect up to 10” in mid Hudson valley, they always jackpot too 

gone are the days where long island was the worst place for snow compared to the city.. due to ocean breeze bringing in milder air..

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NJZ004-006-104>108-NYZ072>075-176-178-179-270130-
Hudson-Eastern Union-Eastern Essex-Western Union-Western
Essex-Eastern Bergen-Eastern Passaic-Kings (Brooklyn)-Northern
Queens-Southern Queens-Bronx-New York (Manhattan)-Richmond (Staten
Is.)-Southern Nassau-
632 PM EST Fri Dec 26 2025
632 PM EST Fri Dec 26 2025

...SNOW AND SLEET LIKLEY OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS...

At 617 PM EST, an area of moderate snow and sleet is working into
the area, and is likely to continue over the next few hours. If
sleet mixing persists this will likely result in total snowfall
amounts falling below 6 inches in this area.

Nonetheless, road conditions will deteriorate rapidly this evening
with temperatures well below freezing. Be prepared for difficult
travel due to low visibilities, and snow and sleet covered roads.

Locations impacted include...
Newark, Jersey City, Jamaica, Paterson, Elizabeth, Flatbush,
Flushing, Passaic, Bayonne, Mott Haven, Hoboken, Plainfield,
Bloomfield, Hackensack, and Linden.

SAFETY INFO...Travel is not recommended this evening. If travel is
necessary, slow down and allow extra time to reach your destination.

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1 minute ago, nycwinter said:

gone are the days where long island was the worst place for snow compared to the city.. due to ocean breeze bringing in milder air..

I disagree.  The northern suburbs will always be snowy overall than the coast. 

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8 minutes ago, eduggs said:

The event is not over. And bust is harsh because snow forecasts are always difficult.

That said, I'm not sure what people were looking at. NAM and ECM signaled the northeast shift with the mid-level lows north of Lake Ontario and surface low into WNY. Then the HRRR continuing to trend right to go time made it clear. It should have been pretty obvious unless you were willfully deluding yourself.

Well its because they upped the amounts imby to 4-7 inches imby this afternoon

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