December 2025 OBS and Discussion

[MJO812]

Nice snowstorm on the 30th for the area on the gfs.

[wthrmn654]

31 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Nice snowstorm on the 30th for the area on the gfs.

Euro was showing something to.  Way to far away to get excited about, we track 

[NEG NAO]

After much above normal temps across most the USA next week - we get back into a  more normal winter pattern as blocking over Greenland has more influence later next week and beyond - individual storms yet to be determined.........

[NEG NAO]

2 hours ago, MJO812 said:

Gfs is still showing some snow for 23

Upton believes it

 

 

ZFP from KOKX

[BxEngine]

Its 6 fucking days before christmas. The next personal attacks are a ban, not just a month off. If you cant discuss the weather without being an asshole, try twitter. 
 

 

[Snowlover11]

Still waiting for my damaging winds.

[rclab]

14 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

Its 6 fucking days before christmas. The next personal attacks are a ban, not just a month off. If you cant discuss the weather without being an asshole, try twitter. 
 

 

 

14 minutes ago, Snowlover11 said:

Still waiting for my damaging winds.

When we and all of ours are gone the wind in all its iterations will be here. Peace, as always …..

 
 

[psv88]

22 minutes ago, Snowlover11 said:

Still waiting for my damaging winds.

Plenty windy here. Some of my lawn decorations blew over 

[the_other_guy]

check out that squall line over the finger lakes down to Scanton!

[Brian5671]

36 minutes ago, Snowlover11 said:

Still waiting for my damaging winds.

underwhelming so far but an inversion was mentioned in the AFD

[JustinRP37]

41 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

Its 6 fucking days before christmas. The next personal attacks are a ban, not just a month off. If you cant discuss the weather without being an asshole, try twitter. 
 

 

Just wow is all I will say with personal attacks over… weather. I wish people would recognize their personal biases and not defend them with personal attacks. This is a weather forum that is supposed to be for enthusiasts, We shouldn’t be putting our mods through hell to keep this readable. 

[MJO812]

Its insane outside.  Very strong wind and heavy rain.

[Intensewind002]

56 minutes ago, Snowlover11 said:

Still waiting for my damaging winds.

Yeah winds only gusting like 25-30 mph range here, far from wind advisory criteria nevermind HWW

[TJW014]

KDIX radar showing 100 mph velocities 2000 feet up. Noticeable uptick in wind over the last half hour. 

[JonClaw]

Downright nasty out there.

[lee59]

Peak gust here 26mph. So far the wind is underwhelming compared to expectations.

[weathermedic]

Any reports of coastal flooding in the usual spots?

[HailMan06]

17 minutes ago, TJW014 said:

KDIX radar showing 100 mph velocities 2000 feet up. Noticeable uptick in wind over the last half hour. 

 

13 minutes ago, lee59 said:

Peak gust here 26mph. So far the wind is underwhelming compared to expectations.

I wonder if there’s a strong temperature inversion preventing the wind from reaching its forecasted potential.

[North and West]

Just wow is all I will say with personal attacks over… weather. I wish people would recognize their personal biases and not defend them with personal attacks. This is a weather forum that is supposed to be for enthusiasts, We shouldn’t be putting our mods through hell to keep this readable. 

has anyone considered that some people may in fact be insane


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[the_other_guy]

absolutely pouring out. I think the next storm we are really dealing with is a cutter on the 26th. 

that’s like a week out anything beyond that is fantasyland sadly

[JustinRP37]

7 minutes ago, North and West said:

has anyone considered that some people may in fact be insane


.

I honestly am believing that 1 in 4 might be insane. Goes for some of my family members….

[SACRUS]

58 / 58 gusty SE winds to 30 MPH and moderate rain.  Mid 50s to near or 60 today which could match records highs in areas.  0.75 - 1.50 of rain.   Colder Saturday - warmer Sunday - colder Mon/Tue with some snow/mix light on Tue before warming up Christmas eve through the 29th - much above normal.  30/31 next storm threat as cold backs down into the northeast.  Beyond there, a bit of back and forth near normal.

 

[wthrmn654]

12 minutes ago, North and West said:

has anyone considered that some people may in fact be insane


.

We are obsessed with weather,  we're all classified as insane lol

[wthrmn654]

Regarding winds, an 80-90kt low level jet at 925mb shifts through
much of the coastal area this morning. Forecast soundings
however show a strong low level inversion which has kept winds
more tame than expected, though they are still expected to
increase into the morning. It appears that winds are going to
have a tough time mixing down to the surface for much of the
day. Thinking is that about 50% of the 925mb jet winds could
still mix down anyway, which translates to higher-end wind
advisory gusts, but cannot completely rule out a gust or two
that reaches warning criteria. Not enough confidence that the
occurrence would be widespread enough to warrant a high wind
warning, but will keep messaging the threat of isolated 60mph
gusts in the advisory. No change to the end time of the
advisory, but can`t rule out 46mph+ gusts for a couple of hours
after midnight.

[wthrmn654]

Updated few mintues ago on nws slack:

Highest wind gusts as of 8am:  TEB: 56mph, LGA: 47mph, Bronx (NYSM): 44mph, Queens (NYDM): 42mph, HPN: 41mph

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 60 (1931)
NYC: 58 (1931)
LGA: 57 (1957)
JFK: 56 (1957)


Lows:

EWR: 9 (1942)
NYC: -1 (1884)
LGA: 14 (1980)
JFK: 15 (1991)


Historical:

 

1777 - The Continental Army moved into encampment at Valley Forge amidst stormy winds and piercing cold. A relatively moderate winter followed. (David Ludlum)

 

1777: George Washington led his hungry and weary from long marches men to Valley Forge on this day. The winds greeted the 12,000 Continentals as they prepared for the winter. 

1911: The 24 hour snowfall record was broke in Oklahoma with 22 inches falling at Beaver. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History)
 

1924 - The Riverside Ranger Station in Yellowstone Park, WY, reported a low of 59 degrees below zero, a December record for the U.S. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1924: record highs for the date included: Roanoke, VA: 78 °F, Lynchburg, VA: 77 °F, Richmond, VA: 76 °F, Norfolk, VA: 75 °F, and Baltimore, MD: 66 °F. Maximum temperature of 74 degrees F on 19th in Washington, DC the temperature fell to 19 degrees F on the 20th.(Ref. Washington Weather Records KDCA) (Ref. Wilson - Additional Temperatures Listed On This Link)

1957 - A tornado, 200 yards in width, killed two persons along its 15-mile path from near Waldo to near Bueana Vista in southwestern Arkansas. People from one house were carried 250 yards, and cars were said to have been carried 600 yards. (The Weather Channel)

1967 - A record 83 inches of snow covered the ground at Flagstaff, AZ. The heavy snows inflicted great hardships on reservations. (David Ludlum)

1973: Indiana is bombarded by a big pre-Christmas snowstorm. 18 inches of snow fell at Covington, IN. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History)

1983: A massive area of arctic high pressure dominates the weather across much of North America during an historic cold wave. Jump River, WI plunged to -47 °F, not only setting a record low for December but also tied for their all-time record low (1/2/1979). Hatfield, WI fell to -39 °F, setting their all-time record low. Across the border, Coronation, Alberta Canada recorded their coldest day in 99 years as the thermometer fell to -42 °F. The following locations set their all-time record low for December: St. Cloud, MN: -41 °F, Blair, WI: -39 °F, Theilman, MN: -38 °F, Dodge, WI: -38 °F, Mondovi, WI: -38 °F, Viroqua, WI: -36 °F, Preston, MN: -35 °F, Rochester, MN: -33 °F, Owen, WI: -33 °F, Cresco, IA: -30 °F, La Crosse, WI: -30 °F, (Ref. Wilson - Additional Temperatures Listed On This Link)

1984: A ridge of high pressure extending from the Gulf of Mexico to Florida brought record high temperatures ahead of cold front across parts of the south including: Athens, GA: 78 °F, Savannah, GA: 78 °F-Tied, Norfolk, VA: 77 °F, Charlotte, NC: 76 °F, Raleigh, NC: 76 °F-Tied, Columbus, GA: 76 °F-Tied, Atlanta, GA: 74 °F, Chattanooga, TN: 71 °F, Wallops Island, VA: 70 °F and Asheville, NC: 70 °F-Tied. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1987 - Thunderstorms produced large hail and damaging winds in eastern Texas and the Lower Mississippi Valley. Thunderstorms produced wind gusts to 90 mph at Venus TX and Providence LA. Rain prevailed from the Southern Plains to the Middle Mississippi Valley. Small stream flooding was reported around Columbia MO. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Low pressure and a trailing cold front in the central U.S. brought snow and high winds to parts of the Rocky Mountain Region. Winds in Colorado gusted to 67 mph at La Junta. Thunderstorms along the same cold front produced wind gusts to 65 mph at Kansas City MO. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - High winds and heavy snow plagued the northern and central Rockies. Snowfall totals in Montana ranged up to 12 inches at Lincoln, and wind gusts in Colorado reached 97 mph at Squaw Mountain. Twelve cities in the north central U.S. reported record low temperatures for the date, including Dickinson ND with a reading of 26 degrees below zero. Bismarck ND was the cold spot in the nation with a morning low of 35 degrees below zero. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1995: Another major snowstorm occurred in the northeast from the lower Great Lakes to New England. New York City picked up 7 to 12 inches of snow.(Ref. AccWeather Weather History)
A tornado only 50-yd wide, 3 mi long track; yet deadly. An F2 tornado destroyed a mobile home in Mt. Pleasant, FL. The 2 occupants (brothers) were thrown 125+ yards. The men were found 4 hours later; 1 was dead, the other hurt badly. Objects from the home were found 3 miles away.(Ref. Weather Guide Calendar with Phenomenal Weather Events 2011 Accord Pub. 2010, USA)

2008 - A snow and ice storm on December 19 affected parts of the U.S. Midwest. Over 220,000 homes and businesses across Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio were left without electric services. No fatalities were reported (Reuters).

 

2009: Snowfall totals from 1 to 2 feet were commonplace in what will go down as one of the biggest snowstorms in history on the East Coast and the first of four snowstorms for the Mid-Atlantic during the winter of 2009-10. The 15 inches of snow measured at Reagan International Airport on Dec. 19th was the third-highest daily snowfall on any calendar day at Washington, DC, since snowfall records began in 1884. The total storm snowfall of 16.4 inches on Dec 18-19 2009 marks the 6th highest two-day snowfall record for Washington, DC putting it just below the second President's Day storm in 2003 and ahead of the Jan 1996 storm. Baltimore Washington Airport saw 20.5 inches of snow and went down as the fifth-highest daily snowfall on any calendar day in Baltimore since snowfall records began in 1893. The total storm snowfall of 21.0 inches on Dec 18-19 2009 marks the 6th highest two-day snowfall record for Baltimore. The daily snowfall records for Dec 19 were smashed for the most snowfall for any calendar day during December at the following stations. Reagan National Airport's new record was 15.0 inches, old record 11.5 in 1932. Baltimore Washington Airport's new record was 20.5 inches, old record 11.5 in 1932. This was the biggest December snowstorm on record and setting a record for the snowiest December for Baltimore, MD. Dulles Airport's new record was 16.0 inches, old record 10.6 in 1982. Richmond International Airport had a total of 6.4 inches. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, reported its second greatest daily snowfall total on record with 22.9 inches. It also was the single most significant December snowfall for the city of Philadelphia, PA. Roanoke, Virginia, recorded 17.8 inches setting a record for the greatest 24-hour snowfall in December. Washington, DC, reported 16.4 inches of snowmaking 2009 the snowiest December on record, all in one storm. In New York, Upton on Long Island recorded 26.3 inches, the biggest snowstorm on record.

[wthrmn654]

Looks like a squall line might be trying to form. 

 

[wthrmn654]

Islip has broken high high temp record so far also