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November 2025 OBS Discussion


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1 hour ago, Dark Star said:

Jeff Beradelli has stated that sudden stratospheric warming will begin today, dropping a polar vortex into the northeast by early next month.  

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On 11/17/2025 at 9:51 AM, eduggs said:

I'm not one to argue that climate change isn't having an impact. On the contrary, I believe the regional climate has warmed so significantly that its effects have clearly bled into observable weather statistics.

But just to play devil's advocate regarding Saranac Lake this year... anecdotally it has been a windy, cloudy November up there. The coldest airmasses have not been accompanied by calm, dry conditions. I suspect that somewhat unfavorable conditions for radiational cooling in the Adirondacks thus far this fall are superimposed on a relatively warm background.

I don’t post here often, but happened to stumble upon this just now. Agree with what you said—it has been cloudy and windy (and snowy) with the coldest air masses—not great for rad cooling. I also agree with Bluewave on how warm Canada has been generally in recent years. If you look at most recent Decembers, with the exception of last year they have been headed in a warmer direction. 

The locals here talk about how fast a start it has been with snow, but we haven’t had any truly cold nights relative to what the area can get (not that I’m a local, I’m new to the area).

It’s been a cold month overall however. The airport is -3.3° as of 11/17. Normal hi/lo for today is 41/21. In the village we had a low today of 24…but we’re currently at 27° and will struggle to hit freezing again.

 

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4 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

I forget when Jeff moved to Florida but when he was still on WCBS here he would occasionally post on here, or maybe it was on Eastern before this one.

I think on Eastern.  Jeff would have post snow storm analysis.  What went wrong, or right, with most major winter storms.  It was a great learning tool.  He used to state, "The devil is in the details", meaning there are clues as to the outcome of each winter storm.  It is a matter of choosing the correct clues.

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1 minute ago, Dark Star said:

I think on Eastern.  Jeff would have post snow storm analysis.  What went wrong, or right, with most major winter storms.  It was a great learning tool.  He used to state, "The devil is in the details", meaning there are clues as to the outcome of each winter storm.  It is a matter of choosing the correct clues.

So it is that long ago. It was a bummer when he moved, he always had very informative posts, as you recall as well.

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1 hour ago, Dark Star said:

Jeff Beradelli has stated that sudden stratospheric warming will begin today, dropping a polar vortex into the northeast by early next month.  

Weeklies agree with that . Maybe just maybe we will have a nice winter.

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33 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

I don’t post here often, but happened to stumble upon this just now. Agree with what you said—it has been cloudy and windy (and snowy) with the coldest air masses—not great for rad cooling. I also agree with Bluewave on how warm Canada has been generally in recent years. If you look at most recent Decembers, with the exception of last year they have been headed in a warmer direction. 

The locals here talk about how fast a start it has been with snow, but we haven’t had any truly cold nights relative to what the area can get (not that I’m a local, I’m new to the area).

It’s been a cold month overall however. The airport is -3.3° as of 11/17. Normal hi/lo for today is 41/21. In the village we had a low today of 24…but we’re currently at 27° and will struggle to hit freezing again.

 

No doubt it’s been a chilly month so far. Even here we’re struggling to get past 45. 

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