LibertyBell Posted Thursday at 03:50 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:50 PM 4 hours ago, bluewave said: I remember all the tropical systems that summer and the great waves. It was the last time we had a record breaking snowy winter with under 10 days reaching 90° at the warmest spots like EWR. 2004 was also impressive with that cool summer following the great snows and the record cold in January. 2009 was the last time with under 15 days reaching 90° and an above average snowy season and near 0° in January. The there was the amazing Arctic outbreak in January 1985 and that cool summer. Also 1982 with the cool summer following the greatest April blizzard in over 100 years. We can add 1956 to the list for the great snowstorms in March. If you notice we used to get these very cool summers right around the ones which were the warmest in those eras, Such as 1956 after the 1955 summer. And 1967 following the summer of 1966. Then the 1982 summer right before the 1983 heat. Plus 1996 after the 1993 to 1995 summers with the heat index near 130°. We also had the cooler 2004 summer between the warmth in 2002 and 2005. Then our warmest summer on record in 2010 after the cool 2009 summer. So all we get these days is the summer heat like 2022 with nearly 50 days reaching 90 and an average summer like in 2023 with closer to 30 days. But not another cool one like in 2009. So we lost a whole category of cool summers since the big step up in summer temperatures in 2010. Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Jan through Dec Lowest Number of 90° daysClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 1967 7 0 2 1996 9 0 3 1985 11 0 4 1982 12 0 - 1975 12 0 - 1946 12 0 5 2004 13 0 6 2009 14 0 - 1962 14 0 - 1956 14 0 - 1935 14 0 They were all so extreme back then. We don't get the extreme and lengthy heatwaves like we did back in 1993 and 1999 anymore. It's just too wet to get that anymore. What we get now is 2-3 days of extreme heat like we did in June, which is the most extreme heat we've seen since 2011. The cool summers you describe, would you say 2014 was the last one to be like that? It came right after the hot summer streak of 2010-2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Thursday at 03:52 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:52 PM 15 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: When the sea breeze is minimal and we have a another focusing mechanism we can get heavy rain right to the beaches. Weekend looks like a perfect summer weekend. I've been doing landscaping work this morning since 9 am and it's actually perfect weather for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Thursday at 03:55 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:55 PM 15 hours ago, Wannabehippie said: Note I am a supporter of nuclear energy. Indian Point Nuclear Power plant was commissioned between 1962, and 1976. The oldest of the three was decommissioned in 1976 due to poor design and operational issues. The other two licenses were set to expire in 2013, 2015. Those two had a history of issues dating back from 2000. Any shot at getting their licenses extended was blown to hell when the operator, Entergy, refused to build a new closed-cycle cooling towers system at the cost of $1 bil. That was key due to environmental impacts on the Hudson River from the water taken, and returned to it. The licenses for nuclear power plants last 40 years. In NYC, LI, and at least in my area of NJ, you can buy your power from 3rd party providers. Example buy your power from Superelectric company rather than ConEd. Coned still provides the transmission of the power. This is because you cannot have a million different transmission lines from each power company. Same goes for gas service. ConEd in particular has had ever increasing profits the last few years. A lot of that money is given back to shareholders with dividends. Coned pays $3.40 a share, and that rate has consistently gone up year over year. Hochul pointed this out as why she was against Con Ed increasing costs, the execs get fat on our backs. exec salaries should be chopped in half. I would go even further and create a ceiling on how much they can make. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Thursday at 03:56 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:56 PM 16 hours ago, Sundog said: It's not just ConEd's fault. They are taking advantage of our infinitely stupid government. "Let's shut down 20% of NYC's electricity supply that is already clean and immune to global price shocks with nothing in place to replace it!" That's just one example. It's their fault in the sense of how much money their execs and shareholders make, they get fat on our backs. We need a salary cap for execs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Thursday at 03:58 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:58 PM 16 hours ago, Wannabehippie said: ConEd made $1,820 million in profit in 2024. That is $1.82 billion. And they want to raise prices, and transmission costs. Which means even if you choose a 3rd party provider for gas and electric, you still will pay more due to the higher transmission fees. They should get zilch, zip, nada for gas and electric increases. In fact their prices should be rolled back a good 5%. Yes, and these so-called *fees* are being used to line their own pockets, this is what Hochul pointed out yesterday. All those profits go right to their execs and shareholders. They remind me of Big Pharma and their overpriced meds, both are vultures who feed off the underprivileged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Thursday at 03:59 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:59 PM 16 hours ago, winterwarlock said: I think we sun both Friday and Saturday and good deal of sun Sunday Yes, looks like today is the only cloudy day. No rain during the day either, we did have some last night but it's been dry since I woke up this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted Thursday at 04:02 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:02 PM 49 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: Yeah I don't think there's gonna be much activity this afternoon, but we'll see. looks done. models show little to nothing and sun is starting to poke through in some places 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Thursday at 04:04 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:04 PM 4 hours ago, bluewave said: I remember all the tropical systems that summer and the great waves. It was the last time we had a record breaking snowy winter with under 10 days reaching 90° at the warmest spots like EWR. 2004 was also impressive with that cool summer following the great snows and the record cold in January. 2009 was the last time with under 15 days reaching 90° and an above average snowy season and near 0° in January. The there was the amazing Arctic outbreak in January 1985 and that cool summer. Also 1982 with the cool summer following the greatest April blizzard in over 100 years. We can add 1956 to the list for the great snowstorms in March. If you notice we used to get these very cool summers right around the ones which were the warmest in those eras, Such as 1956 after the 1955 summer. And 1967 following the summer of 1966. Then the 1982 summer right before the 1983 heat. Plus 1996 after the 1993 to 1995 summers with the heat index near 130°. We also had the cooler 2004 summer between the warmth in 2002 and 2005. Then our warmest summer on record in 2010 after the cool 2009 summer. So all we get these days is the summer heat like 2022 with nearly 50 days reaching 90 and an average summer like in 2023 with closer to 30 days. But not another cool one like in 2009. So we lost a whole category of cool summers since the big step up in summer temperatures in 2010. Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Jan through Dec Lowest Number of 90° daysClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 1967 7 0 2 1996 9 0 3 1985 11 0 4 1982 12 0 - 1975 12 0 - 1946 12 0 5 2004 13 0 6 2009 14 0 - 1962 14 0 - 1956 14 0 - 1935 14 0 I noticed 1967 is on this list too, it came right after the historic 1966 summer! This follows a common pattern: we get a great hot summer (1966), then a great snowy winter (1966-67), followed by a dud summer (1967) followed by a dud winter (1967-68) we get a great hot summer (1995), then a great snowy winter (1995-96), followed by a dud summer (1996) followed by a dud winter (1996-97) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted Thursday at 04:44 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:44 PM 42 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: I've been doing landscaping work this morning since 9 am and it's actually perfect weather for it. Liberty you’re amazing. You can post and landscape at the same time. Stay well, as always ….. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted Thursday at 06:17 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:17 PM 2 hours ago, Brian5671 said: looks done. models show little to nothing and sun is starting to poke through in some places Yep, should have watered the veggies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Claus Posted Thursday at 06:21 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:21 PM SNJ having a hell of a week, getting trained yet again this afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted Thursday at 06:28 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:28 PM Familiar summer pattern coming up of cool in the middle snd warm along the coasts. Hopefully, we can get some decent rains on Long Island. But the forecast looks to keep the heaviest just inland from the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted Thursday at 06:39 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:39 PM 17 minutes ago, Santa Claus said: SNJ having a hell of a week, getting trained yet again this afternoon amazing how well they do on a regular basis there...tons of storms and heavy downpours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted Thursday at 06:39 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:39 PM Just now, Brian5671 said: amazing how well they do on a regular basis there...tons of storms and heavy downpours Some flooding issues with that training 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Thursday at 09:41 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:41 PM 4 hours ago, rclab said: Liberty you’re amazing. You can post and landscape at the same time. Stay well, as always ….. I was outside for 4 hours lol, came in right around 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Thursday at 09:42 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:42 PM 3 hours ago, bluewave said: Familiar summer pattern coming up of cool in the middle snd warm along the coasts. Hopefully, we can get some decent rains on Long Island. But the forecast looks to keep the heaviest just inland from the coast. it would be better to keep the humidity under control with nice dry weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Thursday at 09:45 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:45 PM 3 hours ago, Brian5671 said: amazing how well they do on a regular basis there...tons of storms and heavy downpours Same as central Jersey. There's a reasonable reason why..... people who live near south facing coastlines almost always get less in the way of storms (I hate severe weather so I don't mind.) East facing coastlines like NJ and MA have do much better with these kinds of storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Thursday at 09:46 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:46 PM 3 hours ago, bluewave said: Familiar summer pattern coming up of cool in the middle snd warm along the coasts. Hopefully, we can get some decent rains on Long Island. But the forecast looks to keep the heaviest just inland from the coast. This doesn't look to be a high end hot summer on the scale of 1993 or 2010, but more like 1994, when we had early extreme heat and the rest of the summer was mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Thursday at 09:50 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:50 PM 3 hours ago, bluewave said: Familiar summer pattern coming up of cool in the middle snd warm along the coasts. Hopefully, we can get some decent rains on Long Island. But the forecast looks to keep the heaviest just inland from the coast. Something I wanted to ask you about-- since we have broken the June 100 degree barrier here on the south shore / JFK the next barrier that needs to be broken is getting a 100 degree day in September. It's never happened at JFK has it? And the last time that Central Park had a 100 degree day in September was on September 2, 1953? The only other time Central Park hit 100 degrees in September was September 8, 1881? A notable 99 was reached on September 11, 1983, which was our latest 99. I don't think JFK has hit 99 in September (though they have hit 98 a few times.) So our next goal should be to get to 100 in September..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted Thursday at 09:54 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:54 PM Warm weather will continue through the weekend with temperatures reaching mainly the lower and middle 80s through the weekend. Some of the guidance suggests that another round of heat could develop early next week with temperatures returning to the upper 80s and perhaps lower 90s. No widespread and sustained excessive heat appears likely through mid-July. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.4°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was 0.0°C for the week centered around July 2. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.58°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.03°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through the summer. The SOI was +10.16 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +1.239 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 70% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal July (1991-2020 normal). July will likely finish with a mean temperature near 78.9° (1.4° above normal). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Thursday at 10:15 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:15 PM 25 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Something I wanted to ask you about-- since we have broken the June 100 degree barrier here on the south shore / JFK the next barrier that needs to be broken is getting a 100 degree day in September. It's never happened at JFK has it? And the last time that Central Park had a 100 degree day in September was on September 2, 1953? The only other time Central Park hit 100 degrees in September was September 8, 1881? A notable 99 was reached on September 11, 1983, which was our latest 99. I don't think JFK has hit 99 in September (though they have hit 98 a few times.) So our next goal should be to get to 100 in September..... JFK only hit 100 three times in August on record and never in september back to 1948. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Thursday at 10:17 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:17 PM JFK August 100's 8/20/1983: 100 8/26/1948: 100 8/26/1948: 101 99's in 2001, 2006. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Thursday at 10:18 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:18 PM JFK highest in Sep 9/10/1983 : 98 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Thursday at 10:26 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:26 PM 3 hours ago, FPizz said: Some flooding issues with that training ACY: 2.67 so far today and 2 day 3.29 so far t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted Thursday at 11:43 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:43 PM 5 hours ago, Brian5671 said: amazing how well they do on a regular basis there...tons of storms and heavy downpours South Jersey Alley for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabehippie Posted Thursday at 11:43 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:43 PM 7 hours ago, LibertyBell said: Yes, and these so-called *fees* are being used to line their own pockets, this is what Hochul pointed out yesterday. All those profits go right to their execs and shareholders. They remind me of Big Pharma and their overpriced meds, both are vultures who feed off the underprivileged. ConEd made 1.8 billion after taxes, dividends, etc last year. That money is supposed to go in to R&D, system upgrades etc. Instead they just bank it for stockbuy backs, dividends in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted yesterday at 01:06 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:06 AM Highs: TEB: 86 EWR: 86 PHL: 86 New Brnswck: 85 NYC: 84 LGA: 83 TTN: 82 ISP: 82 JFK: 81 BLM: 79 ACY: 78.1 (2.71) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted yesterday at 02:16 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:16 AM 81 today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted yesterday at 03:43 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:43 AM looking forward to the end of next week when a legitimate cold front will hopefully pass through with a reduction in humidity at least one can hope.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted yesterday at 10:57 AM Share Posted yesterday at 10:57 AM 12 hours ago, LibertyBell said: Something I wanted to ask you about-- since we have broken the June 100 degree barrier here on the south shore / JFK the next barrier that needs to be broken is getting a 100 degree day in September. It's never happened at JFK has it? And the last time that Central Park had a 100 degree day in September was on September 2, 1953? The only other time Central Park hit 100 degrees in September was September 8, 1881? A notable 99 was reached on September 11, 1983, which was our latest 99. I don't think JFK has hit 99 in September (though they have hit 98 a few times.) So our next goal should be to get to 100 in September..... It’s been tough to get 100° heat anywhere around the region in September. Could be related to the monsoonal type summers which have been increasing. Even August 100° heat isn’t as common anymore. June 100 days Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of JunClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2025 3 0 2 2021 2 0 - 1994 2 0 - 1943 2 0 5 2024 1 0 - 2011 1 0 - 1993 1 0 - 1988 1 0 - 1966 1 0 - 1959 1 0 - 1953 1 0 - 1952 1 0 - 1934 1 0 Time Series Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY - Month of JunClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2025 1 0 - 2021 1 0 - 2017 1 0 - 2008 1 0 - 1952 1 0 Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY - Month of JunClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2025 2 0 July 100° days Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of JulClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2022 5 0 - 1949 5 0 3 2010 4 0 - 1993 4 0 - 1988 4 0 - 1966 4 0 7 2012 3 0 - 2011 3 0 - 1999 3 0 - 1955 3 0 11 2013 2 0 - 1997 2 0 - 1991 2 0 - 1980 2 0 - 1977 2 0 - 1954 2 0 - 1936 2 0 18 2025 1 21 - 2005 1 0 - 2002 1 0 - 1995 1 0 - 1986 1 0 - 1982 1 0 - 1963 1 0 - 1957 1 0 - 1937 1 Time Series Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY - Month of JulClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2013 2 0 - 2010 2 0 - 1999 2 0 - 1991 2 0 - 1966 2 0 - 1955 2 0 7 2019 1 0 - 2012 1 0 - 2011 1 0 - 2006 1 0 - 2005 1 0 - 1995 1 0 - 1957 1 0 Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY - Month of JulClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2010 3 0 - 1966 3 0 3 2011 2 0 - 1993 2 0 5 2013 1 0 - 1999 1 0 - 1983 1 0 - 1972 1 0 - 1963 1 0 - 1957 1 0 August 100° days Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of AugClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 1953 4 0 - 1944 4 0 3 2006 3 0 - 2001 3 0 - 1993 3 0 - 1949 3 0 7 2005 2 0 - 1948 2 0 9 2024 1 0 - 2022 1 0 - 2002 1 0 - 1973 1 0 - 1955 1 0 Time Series Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY - Month of AugClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2006 3 0 2 1955 2 0 - 1953 2 0 4 2005 1 0 - 2001 1 0 - 1948 1 0 Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY - Month of AugClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 1948 2 0 2 1983 1 0 September 100° days Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 1993 1 0 - 1953 1 0 Time Series Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 1953 1 0 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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