May 2025

[lee59]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

wow earliest shark sighting on Long Island, a Great White was sighted near Montauk!!

A lot of drones flying around to capture the unexpected. It was nice to see how clear the water seemed to be.

[LibertyBell]

so glad we're not getting any of that rain they are getting south of us, flash flood emergencies and entire school buses floating away!

we've had more than enough rain.

[winterwx21]

Actually got 0.25" here this afternoon. Not bad. I didn't think we'd get that much this early. 

[jm1220]

WTF... Austin, TX's high for tomorrow is expected to hit 108. That's insanely early to be reaching that kind of heat and is actually not far from all time heat records there. The average high there this time of year is around 85. And it's expected to be 100+ for the next 5-6 days. This is more typical for mid-August. Must be feedback from the drought conditions over the Rio Grande Valley and SW flow/ridging.

[psv88]

1 hour ago, lee59 said:

A lot of drones flying around to capture the unexpected. It was nice to see how clear the water seemed to be.

Clean water due to…environmental regulations. People should keep that in mind

[Sundog]

6 minutes ago, psv88 said:

Clean water due to…environmental regulations. People should keep that in mind

Yes of course. The majority of us don't want to live in a replica of a Chinese industrial dump city. 

Unfortunately the people most into the environment today are also anti nuclear and more focused on "environmental justice" instead of just keeping the air and water clean. 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

57 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

WTF... Austin, TX's high for tomorrow is expected to hit 108. That's insanely early to be reaching that kind of heat and is actually not far from all time heat records there. The average high there this time of year is around 85. And it's expected to be 100+ for the next 5-6 days. This is more typical for mid-August. Must be feedback from the drought conditions over the Rio Grande Valley and SW flow/ridging.

Yeah seems very early for that type of heat. That’s the exact reason I could never live in Texas. It’s only going to get worse, it’s almost like winter here in that you don’t go outside much when the HI is 110+. The thunderstorms in Texas are amazing though. Best thunderstorm I have ever experienced was a true super cell in Dallas. Golf ball size hail and other level lighting.

[Sundog]

25 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah seems very early for that type of heat. That’s the exact reason I could never live in Texas. It’s only going to get worse, it’s almost like winter here in that you don’t go outside much when the HI is 110+. The thunderstorms in Texas are amazing though. Best thunderstorm I have ever experienced was a true super cell in Dallas. Golf ball size hail and other level lighting.

Do you remember the hailstorms in summer 2011? In Western Nassau/eastern Queens they got rocked by baseball sized hail. 

I got quarter sized hail by my house by another cell that occurred a couple hours after the baseball sized hailstorm. 

[jm1220]

30 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah seems very early for that type of heat. That’s the exact reason I could never live in Texas. It’s only going to get worse, it’s almost like winter here in that you don’t go outside much when the HI is 110+. The thunderstorms in Texas are amazing though. Best thunderstorm I have ever experienced was a true super cell in Dallas. Golf ball size hail and other level lighting.

When I lived there (Austin) were definitely a couple impressive storms and a few tornado warnings. This time of year in May is their active season often with a lot of rain, the truly intense heat didn't get underway until July the two summers I was there (which were true hell). I lived there in May 2015 when there was over 20" of rain just that month and heavy rain almost every day. Catastrophic flooding in some places near me. But then in June it dried up and essentially no rain again until Sept 2015, and Oct 2015 was another deluge month. 

[the_other_guy]

1 hour ago, jm1220 said:

WTF... Austin, TX's high for tomorrow is expected to hit 108. That's insanely early to be reaching that kind of heat and is actually not far from all time heat records there. The average high there this time of year is around 85. And it's expected to be 100+ for the next 5-6 days. This is more typical for mid-August. Must be feedback from the drought conditions over the Rio Grande Valley and SW flow/ridging.

I was there in Oct for a music festival and it was 100. Miserable

[Rjay]

18 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Do you remember the hailstorms in summer 2011? In Western Nassau/eastern Queens they got rocked by baseball sized hail. 

I got quarter sized hail by my house by another cell that occurred a couple hours after the baseball sized hailstorm. 

 

[MJO812]

No heat in sight

 

[Sundog]

11 minutes ago, Rjay said:

 

I remember being in the pool, blue skies and sunny overhead and a towering black cloud just to my east, with some crazy loud thunder even reaching me from that storm. 

There was a really good video from Nassau that showed huge hailstones but I can't find it. This one is from Queens that day. Look at the hailstone that falls around 28 seconds. That's a solid baseball:

 

 

 

 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

55 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Do you remember the hailstorms in summer 2011? In Western Nassau/eastern Queens they got rocked by baseball sized hail. 

I got quarter sized hail by my house by another cell that occurred a couple hours after the baseball sized hailstorm. 

I missed that one, I was working in New Hyde Park at the time but wasn’t at work. I have only seen pea sized hail twice on the island. I have seen quarter size in central Jersey and the golf ball storm in Texas. Gorilla hail is on my weather bucket list. 

[LibertyBell]

3 hours ago, Sundog said:

Yes of course. The majority of us don't want to live in a replica of a Chinese industrial dump city. 

Unfortunately the people most into the environment today are also anti nuclear and more focused on "environmental justice" instead of just keeping the air and water clean. 

I blame pesticides and fertilizers more than anything.  Conventional farming practices need to be reformed.

Toxic algae blooms cause massive problems in the summer.

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, Sundog said:

Do you remember the hailstorms in summer 2011? In Western Nassau/eastern Queens they got rocked by baseball sized hail. 

I got quarter sized hail by my house by another cell that occurred a couple hours after the baseball sized hailstorm. 

That must have been a north shore event.

I know there was a hail event in northern Queens years ago that required plowing to remove.

 

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah seems very early for that type of heat. That’s the exact reason I could never live in Texas. It’s only going to get worse, it’s almost like winter here in that you don’t go outside much when the HI is 110+. The thunderstorms in Texas are amazing though. Best thunderstorm I have ever experienced was a true super cell in Dallas. Golf ball size hail and other level lighting.

west Texas climate is much better with drier heat.

My first step in geoengineering would be to get rid of the Gulf of Mexico. Or build a mountain range on the gulf coast to cut off all that humidity.

 

 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I missed that one, I was working in New Hyde Park at the time but wasn’t at work. I have only seen pea sized hail twice on the island. I have seen quarter size in central Jersey and the golf ball storm in Texas. Gorilla hail is on my weather bucket list. 

Don't jinx yourself, one day you'll be hit by a megaicycryometeor!!

 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, Sundog said:

I remember being in the pool, blue skies and sunny overhead and a towering black cloud just to my east, with some crazy loud thunder even reaching me from that storm. 

There was a really good video from Nassau that showed huge hailstones but I can't find it. This one is from Queens that day. Look at the hailstone that falls around 28 seconds. That's a solid baseball:

 

 

 

 

The northern Queens hailstorm I remember from the 90s had very small hailstones (hail pebbles?) but they fell for several hours and accumulated up to a foot, that's why snow plows were required.

[coastalplainsnowman]

1 hour ago, Sundog said:

I remember being in the pool, blue skies and sunny overhead and a towering black cloud just to my east, with some crazy loud thunder even reaching me from that storm. 

There was a really good video from Nassau that showed huge hailstones but I can't find it. This one is from Queens that day. Look at the hailstone that falls around 28 seconds. That's a solid baseball:

 

2010 - 2012 were some wild times around here.  There was that ridiculously wet mid-March 2010 where LI lost as many trees as in a hurricane due to the ground being so saturated, then Irene, then Sandy.  All interspersed with crazy snowstorms and then 100 degree heat, including I think a 106 in Newark.  Oh yeah, a decent earthquake too.  Am I missing anything?  Fun times if you like this sort of thing, not sure if it applies to anyone here lol.

[Rjay]

2 hours ago, Sundog said:

I remember being in the pool, blue skies and sunny overhead and a towering black cloud just to my east, with some crazy loud thunder even reaching me from that storm. 

There was a really good video from Nassau that showed huge hailstones but I can't find it. This one is from Queens that day. Look at the hailstone that falls around 28 seconds. That's a solid baseball:

 

 

 

 

There was one from New Hyde Park that was crazy. I can't find it but i found a few more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sundog]

6 hours ago, coastalplainsnowman said:

2010 - 2012 were some wild times around here.  There was that ridiculously wet mid-March 2010 where LI lost as many trees as in a hurricane due to the ground being so saturated, then Irene, then Sandy.  All interspersed with crazy snowstorms and then 100 degree heat, including I think a 106 in Newark.  Oh yeah, a decent earthquake too.  Am I missing anything?  Fun times if you like this sort of thing, not sure if it applies to anyone here lol.

And the tornado and macroburst in September 2010!

I lost tons of large, mature trees in the 60 to 80 year old range in my neighborhood because of that stupid tornado. 

It did an incredible amount of damage to the canopy

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

8 hours ago, coastalplainsnowman said:

2010 - 2012 were some wild times around here.  There was that ridiculously wet mid-March 2010 where LI lost as many trees as in a hurricane due to the ground being so saturated, then Irene, then Sandy.  All interspersed with crazy snowstorms and then 100 degree heat, including I think a 106 in Newark.  Oh yeah, a decent earthquake too.  Am I missing anything?  Fun times if you like this sort of thing, not sure if it applies to anyone here lol.

The March 2010 high wind event produced the strongest widespread winds on the island since the December 92 nor’easter. Frequent gusts to hurricane fource. Ground saturation definitely played a role in the severity of the tree damage. Another factor was the length of time without a similar wind event so trees had allot of time to grow. A gas station canopy blew over on Wantagh Ave and merrick road right by my parents house.

That even really changed the landscape of the south shore with so many mature trees uprooted. Then Irene and Sandy finished off the job. 
It’s amazing to me that we haven’t seen more high wind events since (other then Issiais)

[Sundog]

4 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

The March 2010 high wind event produced the strongest widespread winds on the island since the December 92 nor’easter. Frequent gusts to hurricane fource. Ground saturation definitely played a role in the severity of the tree damage. Another factor was the length of time without a similar wind event so trees had allot of time to grow. A gas station canopy blew over on Wantagh Ave and merrick road right by my parents house.

That even really changed the landscape of the south shore with so many mature trees uprooted. Then Irene and Sandy finished off the job. 
It’s amazing to me that we haven’t seen more high wind events since (other then Issiais)

I remember that because of a NE wind on the North Shore farther west on the island, we had a shallow inverted layer that kept our winds in check. I think LGA recorded the lowest gusts out of all the stations. 

[WestBabylonWeather]

10 hours ago, Rjay said:

 

I remember we got hail on New Year’s Eve 

[bluewave]

18 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

By the way this has come close to happening in the past.

I present to you Summer 1966 and Summer 2011

Summer 1966

Newark 105

Central Park 103

LaGuardia 107

Kennedy 104

Note that in Summer 1966 Central Park was also cooler than Kennedy, was that also a foliage issue?

Summer 2011

Newark 108

Central Park 104

Kennedy 103

(I don't remember the La Guardia high temperature from July 2011 off the top of my head.)

 

Yeah, there was a small cooling influence from the nearby trees back in 1966 in Central Park compared to the other areas. But nothing as big as we would see today under the canopy that has grown over the ASOS.

That was a 250 to 500 year drought around our area. But instead we have seen multiple 500 year to 1000 year floods here. So if that was ever repeated in this much warmer climate, then most of the area would be in the 110° to 115° range with westerly flow. So we have been fortunate that this warmer climate has come with more onshore flow. 

The drought was very modest in 2010 to 2011 compared to those days. So I would add 5-7 degrees to the 2010-2011 highs if we got as dry as the 1960s. This is similar to what happened in the Pacific NW back in 2021 with the record drought and all-time high jumps around 6° higher than previous records. Remember, we had two baseline jumps in global temperatures since 2010-2011. 

 

Data for January 1, 1966 through December 31, 1966
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NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	107
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	105
NY	NEW YORK AVE V BROOKLYN	COOP	105
NY	PORT JERVIS	COOP	104
NY	NEW YORK LAUREL HILL	COOP	104
NJ	LITTLE FALLS	COOP	104
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	104
NY	ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP	WBAN	104
NJ	ELIZABETH	COOP	103
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	103
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	103
NJ	ESSEX FELLS SERVICE BLDG	COOP	103
NJ	PATERSON	COOP	103
NY	MINEOLA	COOP	103
NY	WEST POINT	COOP	103
CT	NORWALK GAS PLANT	COOP	103

 

Data for January 1, 2010 through December 31, 2011
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NY	MINEOLA	COOP	108
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	108
NY	WANTAGH CEDAR CREEK	COOP	107
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	107
NJ	HARRISON	COOP	107
NJ	RINGWOOD	COOP	106
NY	MOLLOY CERCOM	COOP	105
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	COOP	104
NJ	PLAINFIELD	COOP	104
NJ	CRANFORD	COOP	104
NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	104
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	104
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	104
CT	DANBURY	COOP	104
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	103
NY	WEST POINT	COOP	103

 

Time Series Summary for Olympia Area, WA (ThreadEx) - Jan through Dec
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

1	2021	110	0
2	2009	104	0
-	1981	104	0
3	1994	102	0
4	2006	101	0
5	2024	100	0
-	2023	100	2
-	1998	100	0
-	1978	100	0
-	1961	100	0
-	1960	100	0
-	1956	100	0

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

8 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, there was a small cooling influence from the nearby trees back in 1966 in Central Park compared to the other areas. But nothing as big as we would see today under the canopy that has grown over the ASOS.

That was a 250 to 500 year drought around our area. But instead we have seen multiple 500 year to 1000 year floods here. So if that was ever repeated in this much warmer climate, then most of the area would be in the 110° to 115° range with westerly flow. So we have been fortunate that this warmer climate has come with more onshore flow. 

The drought was very modest in 2010 to 2011 compared to those days. So I would add 5-7 degrees to the 2010-2011 highs if we got as dry as the 1960s. This is similar to what happened in the Pacific NW back in 2021 with the record drought and all-time high jumps around 6° higher than previous records. Remember, we had two baseline jumps in global temperatures since 2010-2011. 

 

Data for January 1, 1966 through December 31, 1966
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	107
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	105
NY	NEW YORK AVE V BROOKLYN	COOP	105
NY	PORT JERVIS	COOP	104
NY	NEW YORK LAUREL HILL	COOP	104
NJ	LITTLE FALLS	COOP	104
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	104
NY	ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP	WBAN	104
NJ	ELIZABETH	COOP	103
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	103
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	103
NJ	ESSEX FELLS SERVICE BLDG	COOP	103
NJ	PATERSON	COOP	103
NY	MINEOLA	COOP	103
NY	WEST POINT	COOP	103
CT	NORWALK GAS PLANT	COOP	103

 

Data for January 1, 2010 through December 31, 2011
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

NY	MINEOLA	COOP	108
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	108
NY	WANTAGH CEDAR CREEK	COOP	107
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	107
NJ	HARRISON	COOP	107
NJ	RINGWOOD	COOP	106
NY	MOLLOY CERCOM	COOP	105
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	COOP	104
NJ	PLAINFIELD	COOP	104
NJ	CRANFORD	COOP	104
NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	104
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	104
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	104
CT	DANBURY	COOP	104
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	103
NY	WEST POINT	COOP	103

 

Time Series Summary for Olympia Area, WA (ThreadEx) - Jan through Dec
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

1	2021	110	0
2	2009	104	0
-	1981	104	0
3	1994	102	0
4	2006	101	0
5	2024	100	0
-	2023	100	2
-	1998	100	0
-	1978	100	0
-	1961	100	0
-	1960	100	0
-	1956	100	0

The Wantagh meso 107 is a extreme example of what a dry west wind can do on the south shore. That station is less then a mile from the bay. I think allot of it has to due with air exiting the urban heat island of the city and continuing through the most developed part of the island. I was life guarding at jones beach that day and we had several heat exhaustion incidents. On the sand it can be even hotter. 

[Poker2015]

Anyone actually going to talk about the current weather or upcoming?

Thought there was a banter thread for stories. Just scrolled through 2 pages of I remember that day stories.

[Dark Star]

7 minutes ago, Poker2015 said:

Anyone actually going to talk about the current weather or upcoming?

Thought there was a banter thread for stories. Just scrolled through 2 pages of I remember that day stories.

I guess I will continue the unrelated banter by stating I wish there was a way to respond to the banter, but linking it to a more general "thread", so as not to continue to clog up the topic?

[MJO812]

Raining here

Love it