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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.


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3 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

GEFS has been steadily trending towards the kicker phasing with the trough as it moves out. it now has potent PVA and a legit deform signal for LI. would need to monitor this in future runs and on other guidance

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Yup. Few hrs quicker with with kicker an it's a good storm all the way to the coast 

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Becoming more confident that this is going to be an I-84 north event. Expect further corrections NW on tomorrow’s guidance. IMO there will be little if any snow with this until you get 40+ miles northwest of the city. The airmass is marginal as all heck. Also think there is going to be major midlevel warm nose issues in the metro area….watch the mesos in the last 24 hours, some areas may not even see snow and start as sleet. 10:1 snow maps are going to be laughably inaccurate 

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2 hours ago, brooklynwx99 said:

again, you want to be N of 78 and along or west of 287 to have a good shot at plowable snowfall from this. set expectations to zero near the city

And to anyone that has followed this storm with realistic expectations that should be a shock to no one. Unfortunately many people like to believe they will be in the jackpot no matter what the guidance tells them. Clown maps are the biggest purveyor of this thinking. 

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9 hours ago, WestBabylonWeather said:

Such a nail biter for LI 

No more nail biting there, I don't think.  Northern LI-NYC have a hard time with my expectation T-2" due to above freezing temps. You still have hope at the onset 5-9P Sat and Sunday departure 9A-3P.   Just have to be realistic. Here's the Blend of models from 2AM today. 

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The GFS is warm and weak. The EURO is colder and stronger. Oh no, the GFS is colder the EURO is warmer. Ah, they’re both too warm. The low is too far east, so it’s suppressed, now it’s too far west and I87 isn’t safe. 4 days out it’s nowcasting time. In a way, I didn’t miss not having something to chase, because of the model chaos. Everything was going fine until someone invoked March 2001. That storm should be banned from ever being mentioned. 

I drove past 287 yesterday.


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12 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Yep, I think this one’s done for the city/coast, mostly or all rain. Sucks. And for those jealous of SNE, avoid their sub forum for a few days since what they want isn’t what we want other than maybe a miracle with the trailing shortwave lingering some snow. Enjoy NW crew. 

SNE took all the snow even from the NW crew. Yes they will still get snow but the majority is going to fall in SNE 

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