September 2023

[Tatamy]

6 hours ago, gravitylover said:

My recollection of Gloria is it wasn't all that bad. Nothingburger comes to mind. I do remember walking outside and being in the eye with bright sunshine and a rotating wall of white and grey framing a deep blue circle in the sky. That was pretty cool. 

I guess you were not old enough to remember it with much detail.  This was the worst storm to hit LI in the last quarter of the previous century.  

[MJO812]

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[Rjay]

Use Walt's thread for Friday. 

[SnoSki14]

1 hour ago, forkyfork said:

this would be a serious event if the nam verifies

But does it have any legitimacy or is it the equivalent of its winter storm weenie runs. 

[Stormlover74]

6 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

But does it have any legitimacy or is it the equivalent of its winter storm weenie runs. 

Even if you cut it in half it's concerning

[Intensewind002]

Nice sunset tonight

[Rjay]

[gravitylover]

7 hours ago, bluewave said:

We got lucky in Long Beach since Gloria hit a low tide instead of high tide. It had a higher storm surge than Irene but Irene came in  at high tide. So the actual tide levels for both storms in Long Beach were the same. The wind gusts over portions of Eastern Long Island were estimated at 100+. 
 

 

I was in Oceanside and not right on the water. 

6 hours ago, nycwinter said:

gloria was much stronger as it passed newyork then irene..

I got 14" of rain here in Mahopac from Irene. 

1 hour ago, Tatamy said:

I guess you were not old enough to remember it with much detail.  This was the worst storm to hit LI in the last quarter of the previous century.  

I was 19 and had already earned my weather weenie badge hence the memory of the eye and how cool that was. I guess it was more significant east of western Nassau because I don't remember it being more than a windy, rainy day. 

[the_other_guy]

1 hour ago, Tatamy said:

I guess you were not old enough to remember it with much detail.  This was the worst storm to hit LI in the last quarter of the previous century.  

It was bad, but didnt it weaken before hitting and ultimately was not as bad as feared?

 

I remember a lot of trees down in Queens

[psv88]

9 hours ago, gravitylover said:

My recollection of Gloria is it wasn't all that bad. Nothingburger comes to mind. I do remember walking outside and being in the eye with bright sunshine and a rotating wall of white and grey framing a deep blue circle in the sky. That was pretty cool. 

Gloria crushed Suffolk county. 

[495weatherguy]

13 minutes ago, psv88 said:

Gloria crushed Suffolk county. 

I grew up in East Williston, which is located in Nassau county-we were pummeled by the storm(Gloria).   Multiple trees and large limbs down.  

[lee59]

Gloria hit eastern Nassau and east the hardest. Numerous trees down and many lost power for days. The hype with Gloria was very high, so areas from the city on West that didn't get the strongest winds might have felt it was not so bad. If it hit at high tide, coastal flooding would have been much worse. I believe the center past close to the Nassau Sulfolk border.

 

[psv88]

11 minutes ago, lee59 said:

Gloria hit eastern Nassau and east the hardest. Numerous trees down and many lost power for days. The hype with Gloria was very high, so areas from the city on West that didn't get the strongest winds might have felt it was not so bad. If it hit at high tide, coastal flooding would have been much worse. I believe the center past close to the Nassau Sulfolk border.

 

I was living in Melville for Gloria. Eye passed right over head. I was a baby but my parents showed me photos. Area was crushed. My parents house lost all their trees. Gloria set the bar until Sandy

[donsutherland1]

In the wake of Ophelia, cooler than normal weather will continue through much of the remainder of the month. As a result, September now looks to wind up near normal to somewhat warmer than normal. Another significant rainfall (generally 1"-3" is likely in the region Friday into Saturday).

In the medium and longer range, a warmer than normal pattern will likely develop in eastern North America as October begins.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +2.8°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +1.7°C for the week centered around September 20. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +2.98°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +1.55°C. El Niño conditions will likely continue to strengthen into the fall with the current East-based event transitioning to a basinwide El Niño for the upcoming winter.

The SOI was -3.21 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -0.096 today.

Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 65% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal September (1991-2020 normal). September will likely finish with a mean temperature near 69.5° (0.3° above normal).

 

[uofmiami]

24 minutes ago, lee59 said:

Gloria hit eastern Nassau and east the hardest. Numerous trees down and many lost power for days. The hype with Gloria was very high, so areas from the city on West that didn't get the strongest winds might have felt it was not so bad. If it hit at high tide, coastal flooding would have been much worse. I believe the center past close to the Nassau Sulfolk border.

 

My grandma’s house in Islip had tons of tree damage and huge limbs down all over the place.  The wind snapped the trees tops down on her side yard and knocked off a street light on power pole across street. Lots of power lines down. Compared to Great Neck where we had some gusts and a branch or two down.

[guinness77]

43 minutes ago, lee59 said:

Gloria hit eastern Nassau and east the hardest. Numerous trees down and many lost power for days. The hype with Gloria was very high, so areas from the city on West that didn't get the strongest winds might have felt it was not so bad. If it hit at high tide, coastal flooding would have been much worse. I believe the center past close to the Nassau Sulfolk border.

 

I grew up in North Babylon. I was 8. We went outside when the eye passed over. The most hellacious part of the storm was when it restarted. Lightning hit the tree in front of my house. We had 2 trees end up in our (new at the time) pool. Didn’t go to school/no power for a week. It was the first thing in my life that piqued my interest in weather. Just amazed me what weather could do.  

[guinness77]

8 hours ago, Superstorm93 said:

I was mainly referring to the track and speed when it was near the area, but yes. You are right! 

Irene was more of a northern straight shot that came in significantly west of Gloria. Gloria came in right through the heart of LI and on more of an angle off the NC/VA coast. 

[SACRUS]

 

Records 9/27

 

Highs:


EWR: 91 (1998)
NYC: 90 (1933)
LGA: 90 (1988)



Lows:

EWR: 35 (1947)
NYC: 41 (1957)
LGA: 43 (1947)

Historical:

 

1816 - A black frost over most of New England kills unripened corn in the north resulting in a year of famine. (David Ludlum)

1822: Using various documents and meteorological observations determined a hurricane moved ashore on this day in South Carolina. One account from Bull Island, South Carolina records the eye passing directly over that location.

1906: The second September storm of 1906 was one of great violence. On the 27th the hurricane reached the central Gulf Coast with destructive winds and unprecedented tides. At Pensacola, FL, the tide was 10 feet above normal. At Mobile, AL property damage was severe. An estimated 134 lives were lost from Pensacola, FL to Mississippi from this storm.

1959 - A tornado 440 yards in width traveled twenty miles from near Hollow, OK, to western Cherokee County KS. Although a strong tornado, it was very slow moving, and gave a tremendous warning roar, and as a result no one was killed. (The Weather Channel)

1970 - Afternoon highs of 103 degrees at Long Beach, CA, and 105 degrees at the Los Angeles Civic Center were the hottest since September records were established in 1963. Fierce Santa Ana winds accompanying the extreme heat resulted in destructive fires. (The Weather Channel)

 

1985: Hurricane Gloria swept over the Outer Banks then rushed across Long Island, New England, and Canada. It was the first significant hurricane to hit New England in twenty-five years and brought heavy rains and high winds to the Mid-Atlantic states as well. 

1985 - A record early season snowstorm struck the Central High Plains Region. The storm left up to nineteen inches of snow along the Colorado Front Range, and as much as a foot of snow in the High Plains Region. (Storm Data)

1987 - While those at the base of Mount Washington, NH, enjoyed sunny skies and temperatures in the 70s, the top of the mountain was blanketed with 4.7 inches of snow, along with wind gusts to 99 mph, and a temperature of 13 degrees. Severe thunderstorms developed along a cold front in the south central U.S. A thunderstorm west of Noodle TX produced golf ball size hail and wind gusts to 70 mph. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Thunderstorms developing ahead of a cold front produced large hail in southeastern Wyoming during the afternoon, with tennis ball size hail reported at Cheyenne. Strong winds ushering the cold air into the north central U.S. gusted to 59 mph at Lander WY. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Freezing temperatures were reported in the Great Lakes Region and the Ohio Valley. Houghton Lake MI reported a record low of 21 degrees. Thunderstorms in the western U.S. produced wind gusts to 50 mph at Salt Lake City UT, and gusts to 58 mph at Cody WY.(The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

[SACRUS]

Gloria

https://www.weather.gov/mhx/Sep271985EventReview 

 

[CIK62]

The last 3 days of September are averaging   62degs.(58/66) or -3.

Month to date is   70.3[+0.5].      September should end at   69.6[+0.3].

Reached 67 at 4pm yesterday.

Today:   60-64, wind ne., m. cloudy, Rain by 10pm., 58 tomorrow AM 

58*(86%RH) here at 7am{was 57 earlier}.      60* at 9am.      63* at Noon.       65* at 2pm.

 

[Stormlover74]

I've never seen this before 

COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM TO 10 PM EDT THIS EVENING...

...COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 AM TO 11 AM EDT FRIDAY...

...COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM FRIDAY TO MIDNIGHT EDT FRIDAY NIGHT...

[SACRUS]

 

57 / 53 and clouds have returned for the next 55 hours.  Cloudy and raw today with onshore N-ENE flow.  Stuck up pattern keeping the flow onshore and tendency for low undercutting / cutting off and  inverted troughs like we'll see tomorrow.  Where the rains are focussed look for 2 - 5 inches with local spots to >6-7 inches.   That thread is covering the storms.

 

 

Beyond there  10/ 1 - 10/9  (overall warmer) - warmer air in the overall EC ridging builds down and around. Flow comes around with projected 850 MB temos >17c Tue (10/2)  - Fri (10/6).  So 80s in the warmer spots and perhaps mid 80s at the peak between Tue - Thu.  Trough into the midsection by the 7th slowly coming east on most guidance with ridge going up into the PNW.   So Mid month cool down and likely wet again as the trough meets resistance and fronts hung up and hug the coast potentially.

 

[steve392]

1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said:

I've never seen this before 

COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM TO 10 PM EDT THIS EVENING...

...COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 AM TO 11 AM EDT FRIDAY...

...COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM FRIDAY TO MIDNIGHT EDT FRIDAY NIGHT...

Hackensack river flooding by me already.  I'm on the south end of it so it backs up when we have coastal flooding. 

[Stormlover74]

2 minutes ago, steve392 said:

Hackensack river flooding by me already.  I'm on the south end of it so it backs up when we have coastal flooding. 

I just meant why divide into 3 separate time frames 

[jm1220]

12 hours ago, SACRUS said:

Gloria

https://www.weather.gov/mhx/Sep271985EventReview 

 

Also very lucky that it hit LI during low tide. There was some surge flooding but nothing extreme like Sandy at high tide. 

[STORMANLI]

This was 2 days before I was getting married.  I was in Queens and only lost phone service.  Winds appeared stronger as Gloria exited.  My bride-to-be in Hicksville lost power and was flipping out until it was restored 21 hours before the ceremony.  The 29th was such a beautiful,warm day- 81°.  Honeymooned upstate and remember seeing newspaper reports of parts of Long Island being w/o power 9 days later.

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

 

Highs::

 

EWR: 87 (2014)
NYC: 88 (1881)
LGA: 84 (2014)


Lows:

EWR: 38 (1947)  - 1947 cool Sep
NYC: 41 (1947)
LGA: 42 (1947)

 

Historical:

 

1836 - The first of three early season snows brought four inches of snow to Hamilton, NY, and two inches to Ashby MA. (David Ludlum)

 

1837: The first recorded storm to rake the entire Texas coast was Racer’s Storm, named for a British sloop of war which encountered the system in the extreme northwestern Caribbean on September 28th. It is remembered as one of the most destructive storms of the nineteenth century due to its extreme duration and 2000 mile path of destruction.

 

1874: A strong category 1 hurricane went by Charleston and Georgetown, South Carolina. The tide was unprecedented height, inundating the entire riverfront of the city of Charleston. 

1893 - Albuquerque, NM, was soaked with 2.25 inches of rain, enough to establish a 24 hour record for that city. (The Weather Channel)

1917 - A hurricane hit Pensacola, FL. Winds gusted to 95 mph, and the barometric pressure dipped to 28.50 inches. Winds at Mobile AL gusted to 75 mph. (The Weather Channel)

 

1929: A hurricane-spawned tornado hit Fort Lauderdale, Florida. While the path length of this estimated F2 tornado was 0.8 miles, it caused 16 injuries.

1987 - Thunderstorms produced up to ten inches of rain in southern Kansas and north central Oklahoma overnight. The Chikaskia River rose 2.5 feet above flood stage at Blackwell OK during the day causing flooding in Kay and Grant counties of north central Oklahoma. Early morning thunderstorms in the Lower Rio Grande Valley of Texas produced 3.07 inches of rain in six hours at McAllen. Thunderstorms produced up to six inches of rain in southeastern Texas later in the day. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Thunderstorms developing ahead of a cold front in the central U.S. produced severe weather from northern Texas to the Lower Missouri Valley during the late afternoon and evening hours. Hail three inches in diameter was reported at Nolan TX, and wind gusts to 80 mph were reported at Lawrence KS. Thunderstorms drenched downtown Kansas City MO with up to four inches of rain, leaving some cars stranded in water six feet deep. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Thunderstorms over northeastern Florida drenched Jacksonville with 4.28 inches of rain between midnight and 6 AM EDT. Unseasonably cool weather prevailed in the northeastern U.S. Five cities reported record low temperatures for the date, including Binghamton NY with a reading of 30 degrees. Morning lows were in the 20s in northern New England. Unseasonably mild weather prevailed in the northwestern U.S., with afternoon highs in the upper 70s and 80s. In Oregon, Astoria reported a record high of 83 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

1998: On the morning of September 28th, Hurricane George made landfall near Biloxi, Mississippi with maximum winds of 110 mph and a minimum pressure of 964 mb, making it a Category 2 hurricane. After landfall, Georges moved very slowly across southern Mississippi and weakened to a tropical depression by the morning of the 29th when the center was about 30 miles north-northeast of Mobile, Alabama. The storm dissipated near the northeast Florida/southeast Georgia coast by the morning of October 1, 1998. 

 

 

[CIK62]

The last 2 days of September are averaging  58degs.(56/60) or -7.

Month to date is   70.4[+0.4].      September should end at 69.2[-0.1).

Reached 68 here yesterday at 4pm.

Today:   59-62, wind ne.-breezy, Rain All Day, 58 tomorrow AM.

60*(99%RH) here at 7am{was 59 earlier}  Rain/Thunder.     59*-61* all PM.    

[SACRUS]

 

59 / 58 and moderate rain 1.62 in the bucket.  Rain lovers in their glory the last 9 days.  One more day of pure precipitation pleasure before the big dry out begins Saturday (9/30).  3 - 6 inches amounts on top of the 3 - 6 inch amounts from last week. An oasis of cool and rainy in an otherwise (ridgey / warm pattern) has stuck in this region the last 10 days.

 

Overall 10/1 - 10/9 warm with 2-3 days much above normal as 850 MB temps push >17c by Wed (10/4).  Still persistent onshore flow but flow comes around between Tue and Thu.  Trough digs into the GL/MW as ridge builds into the WC/PNW - pushing east by next weekend 10/7 and beyond.  Period 10/9 and through 10/17 looks to fall back to nd below normal with more rain chances.  IN the way beyond we'll if the trough digs back into the WC/NW and ridging comes east the  last third of Oct.

 

[SACRUS]

 

 

Records:

 

Highs:

EWR: 89 (1945)
NYC: 88 (1945)
LGA: 86 (1945)


Lows:

EWR: 40 (1942)
NYC: 42 (1942)
LGA: 43 (1942)

Historical:

 

 

1927 - An outbreak of tornadoes from Oklahoma to Indiana caused 81 deaths and 25 million dollars damage. A tornado (possibly two tornadoes) cut an eight-mile long path across Saint Louis MO, to Granite City IL, killing 79 persons. The damage path at times was a mile and a quarter in width. The storm followed a similar path to tornadoes which struck in 1871, 1896, and 1959. (The Weather Channel)

 

1959 - A storm produced 28 inches of snow at Colorado Springs, CO. (David Ludlum)

1982: An early snowfall in the Black Hills resulted in the breakage of tree branches and caused power outages in parts of Lead and Nevada Gulch.

 

1983 - Heavy rains began in central and eastern Arizona which culminated in the worst flood in the history of the state. Eight to ten inch rains across the area caused severe flooding in southeastern Arizona which resulted in thirteen deaths and 178 million dollars damage. President Reagan declared eight counties of Arizona to be disaster areas. (The Weather Channel)

1986 - A week of violent weather began in Oklahoma which culminated in one of the worst flooding events in the history of the state. On the first day of the week early morning thunderstorms caused more than a million dollars damage in south Oklahoma City. Thunderstorms produced 4 to 7 inches of rain from Hobart to Ponca City, and another round of thunderstorms that evening produced 7 to 10 inches of rain in north central and northeastern sections of Oklahoma. (Storm Data)

1987 - A slow moving cold front produced rain from the Great Lakes Region to the Central Gulf Coast Region. A late afternoon thunderstorm produced wind gusts to 62 mph at Buffalo NY. Warm weather continued in the western U.S. In Oregon, the afternoon high of 96 degrees at Medford was a record for the date. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - High pressure brought freezing temperatures to parts of Vermont and New York State. Burlington VT dipped to 30 degrees, and Binghamton NY reported a record low of 34 degrees. The high pressure system also brought cold weather to the Central Rocky Mountain Region. Alamosa CO reported a record low of 18 degrees, and Gunnison CO was the cold spot in the nation with a morning low of just five degrees above zero. (National Weather Summary)

1989 - Seven cities reported record high temperatures for the date, as readings soared into the 80s and low 90s in the Northern Plateau and Northern Plains Region. Record highs included 91 degrees at Boise ID, and 92 degrees at Sheridan WY. The high of 100 degrees at Tucson AZ marked their 51st record high of the year, and their 92nd day of 100 degree weather. (National Weather Summary)