Jump to content
  • Member Statistics

    19,014
    Total Members
    49,013
    Most Online
    loganboehmewx
    Newest Member
    loganboehmewx
    Joined

Winter Banter Thread


Rjay
 Share

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, MJO812 said:

Just end this awful winter

 

Another period this month where people got suckered into a favorable pattern and nothing to show.

I'm borrowing heavily from a well known quote here:

Snowless decades create patient snowlovers
Patient snowlovers are rewarded with snowy decades
Snowy decades create impatient snowlovers
Impatient snowlovers are punished with snowless decades

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On Twitter, there has been a proliferation of 10:1 snow maps. During March, ratios tend to be lower than 10:1.

As a very rough approximation, below is some data for Philadelphia's March snowfalls (precipitation of 0.10" or above) from 1950-2022 based on daily mean temperature. The kind of hourly data needed for a finer analysis is not available. Smaller precipitation amounts e.g., 0.01", can lead to skewed outcomes.

image.png.8a4f6d08d0f74513f82120a1f1d45833.png

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, donsutherland1 said:

Snow:Rain Ratios for New York City for March (1950-2022):

image.png.fc25a96760e96ae1621d200654ee8a3e.png

This is excellent Don, but wouldn't this apply to the entire winter?

I made the following chart

37 or above-- doesn't accumulate

33-36  5:1

30-33 10:1

28-30 12:1

25-33 15:1

20-25 20:1

15-20 25:1

under 15 40:1

Only the January 2004 event fulfilled the highest snow ratio category.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

This is excellent Don, but wouldn't this apply to the entire winter?

I made the following chart

37 or above-- doesn't accumulate

33-36  5:1

30-33 10:1

28-30 12:1

25-33 15:1

20-25 20:1

15-20 25:1

under 15 40:1

Only the January 2004 event fulfilled the highest snow ratio category.

 

 

No. This approximation doesn’t consider conditions in the snow growth zone. Winter snow growth is usually better resulting in higher ratios.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, donsutherland1 said:

No. This approximation doesn’t consider conditions in the snow growth zone. Winter snow growth is usually better resulting in higher ratios.

Yes and also higher winds can result in lower ratios.  This is just a handy way of using surface temps to try and predict snowfall amounts lol.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Yes and also higher winds can result in lower ratios.  This is just a handy way of using surface temps to try and predict snowfall amounts lol.

When it comes to each storm, using the soundings is far better. My point was to illustrate that in March, one should be cautious about using 10:1 maps.

To illustrate my point about winters and somewhat higher ratios, for January, 10:1 or above ratios for 32° or below temperatures in NYC occurred 46% of the time and 12:1 or above ratios occurred 25% of the time. 15:1 or above ratios occurred 13.5% of the time, just slightly below the frequency of 12:1 ratios for March.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 hours ago, tdp146 said:

I would love to have some little cabin at 7,000 feet in the Sierra and just get epically buried for 6 months. 

11182B1C-1ADD-496D-83B7-D509CD00D401.thumb.png.30d7719b05c7cc1aa35d8591d7399ce6.png

Be careful with that, 11 bodies found already, massive power outages and those people were trapped in their homes under all that snow.

 

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Be careful with that, 11 bodies found already, massive power outages and those people were trapped in their homes under all that snow.

 

Good afternoon Liberty. It certainly gives credence to the “be careful what you wish for” truism. As always ….

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...