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7 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

If I was spending almost every day up there in the winter, I'd just find a heavy duty hydraulic plow for 3k or something and slap it onto the front of a truck....I might even buy an old used pickup just for the plow stuff. Guess he can see how the first winter goes....then decide, lol.

Most up here in the Rangeley/Eustis as well as the Northern Maine area all have secondary trucks or plows and take care of there own, Plowing really raises hell on a truck and was the reason why i never put one on my Duramax, But you can pick up a good older used one to do just that to maintain the driveway road worthy or not, He will figure it out but from the sounds of it, He's dealing with a lot of snow annually, Great problem to have ha ha.

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4 minutes ago, dryslot said:

Most up here in the Rangeley/Eustis as well as the Northern Maine area all have secondary trucks or plows and take care of there own, Plowing really raises hell on a truck and was the reason why i never put one on my Duramax, But you can pick up a good older used one to do just that to maintain the driveway road worthy or not, He will figure it out but from the sounds of it, He's dealing with a lot of snow annually, Great problem to have ha ha.

Yeah...I just actually looked, and it seems you can get pretty good hydraulic plows for even between 1-2k new....cheaper if used. I might splurge on a heavy duty version though if I was up there, lol.

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2 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

Skiing is a hobby for Phin, so no need to rush spring up there. Some of the best skiing is during March and early April with the mountains draped in an entire winter's worth of snow pack.......and also when you don't have to bundle up like you are Shackleton on an Antarctica expedition.

March and (in many years) early April is what Ginxy and I have long called "the best open secret in New England" for skiing.

So many many years of skiing basically all alone cept some locals late into April. Many years my tan was well established before summer began down here. Light coats, no gloves, sun glasses instead of goggles, beer flowing with that hippie vibe for days. I camped out in a tent with no problem in the early 90s one late April, skied all day, trout fished before dark. It just didn't get any better.  Miss it more than anyone here can imagine.  Get it while you can my friends.  

Really look forward to Phin crying for his Momma. Can someone please post the link to his Cam. I lost it

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19 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Yeah...I just actually looked, and it seems you can get pretty good hydraulic plows for even between 1-2k new....cheaper if used. I might splurge on a heavy duty version though if I was up there, lol.

Ha, I know i would just pick up a plow truck, But then again i have ran heavy equipment before and i would have fun playing around every storm.

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Just now, dryslot said:

Ha, I know i would, But then again i have ran heavy equipment before and i would have fun playing around every storm.

 Back in the day my brother in law, rest his soul, let a young buck run his 1970 John Deere tractor to clean his half mile driveway of  1 to 2 feet of snow. About as much fun as it gets. That was my first taste of real plowing.  Granted I got stuck but thats another story lol 

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Just now, Ginx snewx said:

 Back in the day my brother in law, rest his soul, let a young buck run his 1970 John Deere tractor to clean his half mile driveway of  1 to 2 feet of snow. About as much fun as it gets. That was my first taste of real plowing.  Granted I got stuck but thats another story lol 

Getting stuck is half the fun................:lol:

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18 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

So many many years of skiing basically all alone cept some locals late into April. Many years my tan was well established before summer began down here. Light coats, no gloves, sun glasses instead of goggles, beer flowing with that hippie vibe for days. I camped out in a tent with no problem in the early 90s one late April, skied all day, trout fished before dark. It just didn't get any better.  Miss it more than anyone here can imagine.  Get it while you can my friends.  

Really look forward to Phin crying for his Momma. Can someone please post the link to his Cam. I lost it

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20 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

So many many years of skiing basically all alone cept some locals late into April. Many years my tan was well established before summer began down here. Light coats, no gloves, sun glasses instead of goggles, beer flowing with that hippie vibe for days. I camped out in a tent with no problem in the early 90s one late April, skied all day, trout fished before dark. It just didn't get any better.  Miss it more than anyone here can imagine.  Get it while you can my friends.  

Really look forward to Phin crying for his Momma. Can someone please post the link to his Cam. I lost it

At the end of winter 09/10 in MD I cried for momma. I had water running down my walls from the ice damming. 

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4 minutes ago, Fozz said:

Looks like a very nice view. What's the elevation?

I think he's about 1500 feet.

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15 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

Yeah I don’t know the exact number up there. The Lancaster coop averages like 70”. Sometimes coops are too low if they truly only measure once per day at the same exact time. Not sure if Lancaster does or not. I haven’t scrutinized the coop data there very closely.

But based off of snow cover maps and having driven up there frequently, it’s not a whole lot more than that even if it’s wrong. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen bare ground or nearly bare ground there when every other direction was deep snow pack. 

The co-op in Fort Kent is a prime example.  Folks from that area know well that FK usually has more snow and deeper pack than CAR but the records show the opposite.  From 1989-90 thru 2019-20 (without 2-02-03 and 03-04 as FK has missing months), CAR's average is 120.3" while FK's is 98.1".  In the 5 winters that we lived in town within a mile or 2 and 20' elevation, 76-77 thru 80-81, my average was 126.2", FK 102.3", CAR 117.7".  When we moved to the back settlement at 970', about 450 above our former home, my average was 144.0", FK 92.9", CAR 118.7".

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1 hour ago, dryslot said:

I was going to suggest to him to find an old beater with a plow plus a mid size tractor with a bucket but i didn't know how much of the time he is going to be there, It will pretty much snow everyday there during the winter so if its the 2" threshold, That will end up rivaling the heat bill...............:yikes:

 

58 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

If I was spending almost every day up there in the winter, I'd just find a heavy duty hydraulic plow for 3k or something and slap it onto the front of a truck....I might even buy an old used pickup just for the plow stuff. Guess he can see how the first winter goes....then decide, lol.

I don't want him jinxing winter by being completely prepared.  If he puts that much $$ into getting ready for winter it will just be dud.  I propose that he not even buy a snow shovel.  At most he should get one of those electric, single stage snowblowers.

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11 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

At the end of winter 09/10 in MD I cried for momma. I had water running down my walls from the ice damming. 

Hopefully you get to experience some Feb 2015 type cold up there...

 

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1 minute ago, BrianW said:

Hopefully you get to experience some Feb 2015 type cold up there...

 

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That month sucked so bad lol.  Every day skiing was below zero to start and felt like the summer was below zero all the time.  Brutal cold.  I remember we got excited for highs in the teens while skiing.

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16 minutes ago, mreaves said:

 

I don't want him jinxing winter by being completely prepared.  If he puts that much $$ into getting ready for winter it will just be dud.  I propose that he not even buy a snow shovel.  At most he should get one of those electric, single stage snowblowers.

Don’t worry, I am totally unprepared. I don’t even have a snow shovel yet. 

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44 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

 Back in the day my brother in law, rest his soul, let a young buck run his 1970 John Deere tractor to clean his half mile driveway of  1 to 2 feet of snow. About as much fun as it gets. That was my first taste of real plowing.  Granted I got stuck but thats another story lol 

Had my chance when a friend dislocated his shoulder and couldn't drive his very hard steering tractor - 1940s vintage, red so maybe a Case.  Pushing that April windslab - the place was at 1200' with a west aspect in Frenchville - was a challenge.  Also helped the apartment neighbor who got his little backhoe too close to the embankment and dropped the smaller wheels over the edge.  He pulled with the hoe while I did clutch/gas and flipped snow with the bucket and we finally got it back on the level. 

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2 minutes ago, tamarack said:

Had my chance when a friend dislocated his shoulder and couldn't drive his very hard steering tractor - 1940s vintage, red so maybe a Case.  Pushing that April windslab - the place was at 1200' with a west aspect in Frenchville - was a challenge.  Also helped the apartment neighbor who got his little backhoe too close to the embankment and dropped the smaller wheels over the edge.  He pulled with the hoe while I did clutch/gas and flipped snow with the bucket and we finally got it back on the level. 

The stories of snow removal and logging from my youth are pretty hilarious.  Losing air breaks on a very steep hill with a full load of 20 foot logs and rolling backwards a quarter mile wasn't so funny though. Still can't believe we didn't hit anything. 

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33 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

I think he's about 1500 feet.

Honestly I am a bit jealous. Gotta work hard for the next 10 years I guess.

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29 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

Don’t worry, I am totally unprepared. I don’t even have a snow shovel yet. 

Did you ask the plow guy what a full season unlimited plowing is?  Honestly I don’t know anyone who averages over 100” that pays per event.  We do a winter contract at like 3” minimum...also includes twice a winter or so they’ll come in with the big guns (bucket loaders) and push everything way back onto the woods and lawn.  You’ll probably get 5 more feet than me too over the course of the winter, too.

If money isn’t *too* much of a concern maybe it doesn’t matter, I just feel like you’ll get fleeced at $80 per plow regardless of driveway length.  There’s a lot of houses up in your little area it looks like (up off Randolph Hill Rd) so I bet someone has a little monopoly up there and economies of scale might help lower the price a bit.  Hell some contractor probably just keeps heavy equipment up there like they would near a ski area with condos/homes... big buckets with chains that sound like diesel dinosaurs when they show up at 5am.

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5 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Did you ask the plow guy what a full season unlimited plowing is?  Honestly I don’t know anyone who averages over 100” that pays per event.  We do a winter contract at like 3” minimum...also includes twice a winter or so they’ll come in with the big guns (bucket loaders) and push everything way back onto the woods and lawn.  You’ll probably get 5 more feet than me too over the course of the winter, too.

If money isn’t *too* much of a concern maybe it doesn’t matter, I just feel like you’ll get fleeced at $80 per plow regardless of driveway length.  There’s a lot of houses up in your little area it looks like (up off Randolph Hill Rd) so I bet someone has a little monopoly up there and economies of scale might help lower the price a bit.  Hell some contractor probably just keeps heavy equipment up there like they would near a ski area with condos/homes... big buckets with chains that sound like diesel dinosaurs when they show up at 5am.

I will look into that for sure. I figured I am getting fleeced. I’m the “rich” out of towner guy new to the area... easy mark. 

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1 hour ago, mreaves said:

 

I don't want him jinxing winter by being completely prepared.  If he puts that much $$ into getting ready for winter it will just be dud.  I propose that he not even buy a snow shovel.  At most he should get one of those electric, single stage snowblowers.

We should be all set, He doesn't snowmobile so we don't have to worry about him killing winter off by buying a new sled.

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11 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

I will look into that for sure. I figured I am getting fleeced. I’m the “rich” out of towner guy new to the area... easy mark. 

So are you wearing sucker on the front or the back of the jacket or both?        lol

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40 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

I will look into that for sure. I figured I am getting fleeced. I’m the “rich” out of towner guy new to the area... easy mark. 

Ha, I was thinking the same thing.  As soon as they find out your from Maryland and are wealthy, they are like "lets lock him into a per-plowing rate.  He has no idea what's about to happen."  

No offense to any of the plow guys on here, but often times people joke about the fact that if you sign up for a per-plowing rate, the plow guy will be in your driveway every single time flakes fall from the sky.  But if you get the seasonal contract, you'll be wondering where the plow guy is.

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2 hours ago, Ginx snewx said:

So many many years of skiing basically all alone cept some locals late into April. Many years my tan was well established before summer began down here. Light coats, no gloves, sun glasses instead of goggles, beer flowing with that hippie vibe for days. I camped out in a tent with no problem in the early 90s one late April, skied all day, trout fished before dark. It just didn't get any better.  Miss it more than anyone here can imagine.  Get it while you can my friends.  

Really look forward to Phin crying for his Momma. Can someone please post the link to his Cam. I lost it

It's nice that you were able to experience all of that. Many won't, not because they can't but because they will put it off, and off and off.

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14 minutes ago, Cold Miser said:

It's nice that you were able to experience all of that. Many won't, not because they can't but because they will put it off, and off and off.

Thanks brother 

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1 hour ago, weathafella said:

Wow!  

I’m surprised they’ve reported more snow than even Pinkham Notch at 2000’, which has a 10 year average around 140-150”. Not sure which numbers to believe, or whether Randolph has some special upslope.

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