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5 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Almost as good as the people in China that were supposedly passing out in the streets from the virus.  Glad people are catching on.  

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Would that be the conservative New York Post sensationalizing about covid for clicks?

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19 minutes ago, mollydog said:


LOL? My first run in with an antivax person was a very liberal Democrat. A lot of Hollywood run in the antivax circle as well.


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I don't know what the percentages are but there's definitely a faction on the left that has been anti-vax for many years. 

I think the magnitude of the political divide over the covid vaccine specifically is unlike anything we've seen though.    

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West Virginia is getting creative at trying to improve their vaccination numbers

West Virginia Gov. Justice: State will use COVID-19 stimulus funds to give all residents 16-35 a $100 savings bond

https://www.wvnews.com/news/wvnews/west-virginia-gov-justice-state-will-use-covid-19-stimulus-funds-to-give-all-residents/article_3464b366-a6af-11eb-8cef-a3be246c97ac.amp.html

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2 minutes ago, schoeppeya said:

I'm going to make one of those that says "when you get shot in chicago" and the picture collage will be mugshots and see if you guys still think its funny.

You could argue that wearing $2 gas station sunglasses is a crime too.

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4 minutes ago, schoeppeya said:

I'm going to make one of those that says "when you get shot in chicago" and the picture collage will be mugshots and see if you guys still think its funny.

This is a hell of stretch. Political avatars having nothing to do with gun violence. Probably be better to find a liberal tell on people who far too scared of covid or something. 

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41 minutes ago, schoeppeya said:

Im with you here, if people havent realized the media sensationalizes headlines and stretches the truth for clicks I dont know what to say

Exactly, what's the point in him posting those pictures? Is it to prove that the NY Post is a garbage news source and a glorified tabloid? You don't need to convince me...

Is it to downplay the covid situation in India?

Seems like everything in India regarding covid is as bad as one could imagine right now.  

https://www.statnews.com/2021/04/27/in-covid-grip-india-gasps-for-air-if-there-is-an-apocalypse-this-has-to-be-one/

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1 hour ago, schoeppeya said:

Im with you here, if people havent realized the media sensationalizes headlines and stretches the truth for clicks I dont know what to say

Yes, the media sensationalizes.  

There are not people dropping dead in the streets from covid.  

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50 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Yes, the media sensationalizes.  

There are not people dropping dead in the streets from covid.  

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56891016

Dr Harjit Singh Bhatti, who works on a Covid ward of Delhi's Manipal Hospital, described watching people gasping for air in the street like "fish out of water".

"They are not getting oxygen and they are dying on the roads," he said.

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1 hour ago, OSUmetstud said:

This is a hell of stretch. Political avatars having nothing to do with gun violence. Probably be better to find a liberal tell on people who far too scared of covid or something. 

Fair, just the first one that came to mind.

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Yes, the media sensationalizes.  
There are not people dropping dead in the streets from covid.  

I agree with the first sentence and strongly disagree with the next. I have spent a lot of time in India. We have close family friends in Southern India and my husband has a team that he manages in northern India. Reports from both of those have said the situation is incredibly dire and there are dead bodies on the streets in India. They can not cremate fast enough. They do not have the infrastructure to handle a pandemic.


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1 minute ago, mollydog said:


I agree with the first sentence and strongly disagree with the next. I have spent a lot of time in India. We have close family friends in Southern India and my husband has a team that he manages in northern India. Reports from both of those have said the situation is incredibly dire and there are dead bodies on the streets in India. They can not cremate fast enough. They do not have the infrastructure to handle a pandemic.


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And 5x the number of people in 1/3 the area. Yeah, I absolutely believe it. This is incredibly awful.

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16 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

And 5x the number of people in 1/3 the area. Yeah, I absolutely believe it. This is incredibly awful.

Some of the worlds biggest slums too. The perfect place for a virus to go crazy. 

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32 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

And 5x the number of people in 1/3 the area. Yeah, I absolutely believe it. This is incredibly awful.

That's why I didn't dismiss the veracity of the statement about people dead on the streets.  If the Post is going to use a picture of somebody laying on the street, they should've used a different one because the one they used is clearly old and gives people a reason to doubt that it is occurring.

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15 hours ago, Hoosier said:

That's why I didn't dismiss the veracity of the statement about people dead on the streets.  If the Post is going to use a picture of somebody laying on the street, they should've used a different one because the one they used is clearly old and gives people a reason to doubt that it is occurring.

So it’s the far-right New York Post using its own lack of credibility to make the public believe the pandemic in India is less severe than it actually is. That’s some next level stuff.

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2 hours ago, TimB84 said:

So it’s the far-right New York Post using its own lack of credibility to make the public believe the pandemic in India is less severe than it actually is. That’s some next level stuff.

Almost like the far left media (so basically, the media) leading the public to believe the pandemic in the rest of the world is far deadlier/more severe than it actually is. 

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22 minutes ago, schoeppeya said:

Almost like the far left media (so basically, the media) leading the public to believe the pandemic in the rest of the world is far deadlier/more severe than it actually is. 

https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-india-united-states-coronavirus-pandemic-asia-3b5adbaf2a94f95b31664efe83807e80
Here’s an article from one of the most objective sources in media about how serious the pandemic is in India. If you consider the Associated Press radical leftist stuff, I don’t know what to tell you.

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https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-india-united-states-coronavirus-pandemic-asia-3b5adbaf2a94f95b31664efe83807e80
Here’s an article from one of the most objective sources in media about how serious the pandemic is in India. If you consider the Associated Press radical leftist stuff, I don’t know what to tell you.
Those who would say AP is not objective news reporting is akin to calling Brian Williams a liar. Crazy .

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58 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-india-united-states-coronavirus-pandemic-asia-3b5adbaf2a94f95b31664efe83807e80
Here’s an article from one of the most objective sources in media about how serious the pandemic is in India. If you consider the Associated Press radical leftist stuff, I don’t know what to tell you.

I shouldn’t have to break down every single post for you Barney style to keep you from misinterpreting or misdirecting what I am saying. Which is the vast majority of mainstream is left leaning and uses the exact same tactics the article you keep talking about does. Do I need to post the CNN director video for you? And, I specifically said the “rest of the world” as a counter to what’s happening to India, is there a way I can’t say that so it’s more clear to you?  I don’t need a lecture from you about centrism when every single post you make includes some underhanded shot at dipshits on the other side of the aisle from you. Which I have said, over and over, I am not. 

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1 hour ago, schoeppeya said:

I shouldn’t have to break down every single post for you Barney style to keep you from misinterpreting or misdirecting what I am saying. Which is the vast majority of mainstream is left leaning and uses the exact same tactics the article you keep talking about does. Do I need to post the CNN director video for you? And, I specifically said the “rest of the world” as a counter to what’s happening to India, is there a way I can’t say that so it’s more clear to you?  I don’t need a lecture from you about centrism when every single post you make includes some underhanded shot at dipshits on the other side of the aisle from you. Which I have said, over and over, I am not. 

I sure as hell don’t think CNN is an objective source, but it’s no less objective than its primary competitors with opposing views. Along those lines, remember last March when the coronavirus was a scientific issue and not a political one? One individual, much more than anyone else, is responsible for it being so politicized, and it’s not CNN or Fox News or MSNBC or One America. You can look at a Facebook profile of someone on either side of the political aisle and there’s a solid chance you’ll see some sort of “stay home, save lives” sentiment that they posted last March before half of our country was told to think a different way about it. (I have some left-leaning opinions and some right-leaning opinions about other issues (most of which aren’t rooted in science), but this is specifically related to covid and I side with science on the issue of covid, which happens to line up closely with the left-wing position a lot better than it does with the right-wing position. That’s all I’m going to say on why I’m so harsh with the way I word things sometimes. I don’t view all right-wing positions as garbage, but their position on covid and the way it defies science irks me.)

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Things are still on track for a good summer. 

The decline in first doses of the vaccine has been a bit steeper than expected but the decline in cases has also been a bit earlier and steeper than expected. 

 

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19 minutes ago, mattb65 said:

Things are still on track for a good summer. 

The decline in first doses of the vaccine has been a bit steeper than expected but the decline in cases has also been a bit earlier and steeper than expected. 

 

Things are rapidly improving now here in NJ. Cases are down 31% from a week ago and 42% from a month ago. 60% of people in this state have received 1 dose and 42% are fully vaccinated. It seems as if 40% vaccination is the area in which cases start to decline significantly.

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This is interesting.  It says that exposure to the spike protein, not even the virus itself, was enough to cause genetic changes in airway cells.  Don't the vaccines train the body to recognize the covid spike protein?  If so, then why doesn't the vaccine cause some of these long hauler symptoms?  I don't have any formal medical background and I'm sure this can be easily explained to a layman like me, but it's something I thought of when I first read it.

 

Gene changes might explain long-haul COVID-19 symptoms

"We found that exposure to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein alone was enough to change baseline gene expression in airway cells," said Nicholas Evans, a master's student in the laboratory of Sharilyn Almodovar, Ph.D., at the Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center. "This suggests that symptoms seen in patients may initially result from the spike protein interacting with the cells directly."

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-04-gene-long-haul-covid-symptoms.html

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