Hoth Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, Typhoon Tip said: Which is utopia compared to 1995 Yeah, I was in fifth grade. I don't remember anything specific about that winter except that I would sit and stare longingly out the classroom window at the barren landscape and pray for snow that never came. Sixth grade was awesome though. Felt like two day school weeks all winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hoth said: Well, as much as this has blown since November, it doesn't compare to the soul-rending horror that was January '13. That continuous, unyielding, relentless suckage on the back of the worst winter in Boston's history had even the coolest customers swinging from the Tobin. I am not ready to wave the white flag on this winter yet. That said, if we hit Feb 1 and I still haven't cleared 10" on the season, I'm all in favor of a March '12 style torch in which to ride off into the dewy, nape-tanning sunset. Hell, I've already got bees coming out of hibernation and daffodils starting to poke through the leaves in my garden. Might as well add a few girls in sundresses to the mix. I've noticed bees for the last week or so. And the grass on the front lawn has greened up some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Great Snow 1717 said: I've noticed bees for the last week or so. And the grass on the front lawn has greened up some. Yep. The local flora and fauna are a little confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1995 had a decent February. We had a huge coastal that hugged but many areas got 18+. Even BOS had 6+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 January 2007 the cherry blossoms on the hill by the Brighton Marine Hospital were I full bloom. February and March were frigid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, weathafella said: January 2007 the cherry blossoms on the hill by the Brighton Marine Hospital were I full bloom. February and March were frigid. Yeah I remember flowers coming up and one day was like 70. Second half was colder, but brown ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The PV even down to 150mb (the lowest level) on the stratosphere diagnostics page is mangled on the euro. I'd be surprised if we have no trophospheric response. I get all of the consternation, but I still feel really, really good about things. I urge folks to please hang with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, weathafella said: 1995 had a decent February. We had a huge coastal that hugged but many areas got 18+. Even BOS had 6+. I had 1' in Wilmington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJOatleast7 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 And in 1988 BOS had only 2.7 or 2.9" or something like that by 1/31. A record futility for the date at that time of course that was 1988, so maybe bad example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Yeah I remember flowers coming up and one day was like 70. Second half was colder, but brown ground. ??? Remember the VDAY storm? We had ice in the ground obscuring grass for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Euro making a nice step back in right direction. I'm honestly surprised there isn't a bit better sfc reflection southeast with all that PVA into the Delmarva. But frigid high and some front end snow with likely wedged interior. All snow for CNE/NNE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, ORH_wxman said: Euro making a nice step back in right direction. I'm honestly surprised there isn't a bit better sfc reflection southeast with all that PVA into the Delmarva. But frigid high and some front end snow with likely wedged interior. We'll take it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Euro much colder for week’s event. My man in Gloucester gets it good! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Typhoon Tip said: One thing I have noticed over the years is that the Euro MJO does have more "stability" in its outlooks. It seems to maintain continuity better but I haven't dug around for any specific verification/comparisons in the matter either. THORPEX had some good stuff but it's pretty crusty now. No new verification data in 4 years so it is missing many of the recent modeling upgrades. Verification tool: http://gpvjma.ccs.hpcc.jp/TIGGE/tigge_MJO_score.html Paper on methodology and outcomes: Matsueda_et_al-2011-Geophysical_Research_Letters.pdf Current data presentation: http://gpvjma.ccs.hpcc.jp/TIGGE/tigge_MJO.html Great 21-day lookback: http://gpvjma.ccs.hpcc.jp/S2S/S2S_MJO.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Snow to ice storm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, weathafella said: 1995 had a decent February. We had a huge coastal that hugged but many areas got 18+. Even BOS had 6+. He was talking about January ... I mean... most of what's driving the tenor in here on "!Jan 3rd!" is the impatience of addiction - ask the Methadone clinic patient to just wait 10 minutes for their next dose and see how well that goes ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Yeah better look for sure. It's weaker which maybe is a trend we want it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 29 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Lol Bastardi just Melted on Weatherbell. Says if the pattern doesn't start to change in about two weeks....he says his forecast is a Huge bust and Wrong. Guy went off on how everything is lining up...but modeling just continues to get worse. Oh the Irony!! I'm not surprised that he has become worried. On Twitter he hasn't been as gung ho lately. I thought much of his forecast was overly optimistic. He is biased towards cold and snow and I think it comes into play in his winter forecasts. And I do agree with him in regards to needing to see some changes in the next couple of weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: Snow to ice storm! We're not trusting the models anymore, remember? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, das said: THORPEX had some good stuff but it's pretty crusty now. No new verification data in 4 years so it is missing many of the recent modeling upgrades. Verification tool: http://gpvjma.ccs.hpcc.jp/TIGGE/tigge_MJO_score.html Paper on methodology and outcomes: Matsueda_et_al-2011-Geophysical_Research_Letters.pdf Current data presentation: http://gpvjma.ccs.hpcc.jp/TIGGE/tigge_MJO.html Great 21-day lookback: http://gpvjma.ccs.hpcc.jp/S2S/S2S_MJO.html Das is good! Thanks man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: He was talking about January ... I mean... most of what's driving the tenor in her on "!Jan 3rd!" is the impatience of addiction - ask the Methadone clinic patient to just wait 10 minutes for their next dose and see how well that goes ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Yeah better look for sure. It's weaker which maybe is a trend we want it seems. I bet you'd see a more defined sfc reflection sooner to our south than what it shows. You have the baroclinic zone already set up south with the frigid high and then we have legit PVA into Delmarva/s NJ area...yet the euro wants to keep the sfc low dominant over interior an extra 6-12 hours....doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Can't say i don't like that look on the 12z Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: I bet you'd see a more defined sfc reflection sooner to our south than what it shows. You have the baroclinic zone already set up south with the frigid high and then we have legit PVA into Delmarva/s NJ area...yet the euro wants to keep the sfc low dominant over interior an extra 6-12 hours....doubtful. Yeah I completely see what you mean. That kick out or ejection of PVA offshore is usually key for that, and that's what it shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Euro would net positive most of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 We don't toss. And there's a bunch of ice in there too south of the heavy snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, dryslot said: Can't say i don't like that look on the 12z Euro. No avoiding that one so hopefully it's all snow...looking good for that right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, powderfreak said: We don't toss. And there's a bunch of ice in there too south of the heavy snow. Toss it long, toss it hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Hopefully we can get that south for the south of Pike crowd... there's plenty of snow up north of NNE so even a 75 mile shift south wouldn't really matter, not a sharp northern gradient so no smoking cirrus fears unless it's like 150-200 miles south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 BHB FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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