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March 2-4th ... first -NAO anchored storm perhaps in years


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Just now, Ginx snewx said:

So I looked at every run of the main models when they had the best winter/snow outcomes, verdict is every single one of them had crashing heights below 534 in the Chicago region 12 Z Thursday, all the warm solutions were plus 540 and really slow to deepen. That is the key spot for me. 

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2 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

So I looked at every run of the main models when they had the best winter/snow outcomes, verdict is every single one of them had crashing heights below 534 in the Chicago region 12 Z Thursday, all the warm solutions were plus 540 and really slow to deepen. That is the key spot for me. 

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Yes, we want the bowling ball look very early on....

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Guys... I really think you may be focussing on the wrong gunk ... 

you need to look N at that wave train pressing east through N Maine... That run yesterday, the 18z?  That one showed a slightly farther south axis of motion, and that subtlety made a huge difference on that run compared to the other since, in getting a fresher cold air source in the lower troposphere involved in the circulation down here.  

I just compared the runs going back some 6 cycles and every time the last wave in that series up N was slightly south, you could see ice flashing into the fray over southern Maine and NH and a flash to snow down here soon after.   They are effectively damming off the lvl cold from come south - I'm pretty confident in that under the radar factor in this thing. 

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1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Guys... I really think you may be focussing on the wrong gunk ... 

you need to look N at that wave train pressing east through N Maine... That run yesterday, the 18z?  That one showed a slightly farther south axis of motion, and that subtlety made a huge difference on that run compared to the other since, in getting a fresher cold air source in the lower troposphere involved in the circulation down here.  

I just compared the runs going back some 6 cycles and every time the last wave in that series up N was slightly south, you could see ice flashing into the fray over southern Maine and NH and a flash to snow down here soon after.   They are effectively damming off the lvl cold from come south - I'm pretty confident in that under the radar factor in this thing. 

We made note of that earlier.

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16 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

So I looked at every run of the main models when they had the best winter/snow outcomes, verdict is every single one of them had crashing heights below 534 in the Chicago region 12 Z Thursday, all the warm solutions were plus 540 and really slow to deepen. That is the key spot for me. 

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Agreed.  Great post Ginxy.

I noticed that last night too that the best runs had some crushing snows west of Chicago and lows of 996mb or lower in the Indiana/Illinois area.

Thats when it really went bowling ball style east.

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4 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Guys... I really think you may be focussing on the wrong gunk ... 

you need to look N at that wave train pressing east through N Maine... That run yesterday, the 18z?  That one showed a slightly farther south axis of motion, and that subtlety made a huge difference on that run compared to the other since, in getting a fresher cold air source in the lower troposphere involved in the circulation down here.  

I just compared the runs going back some 6 cycles and every time the last wave in that series up N was slightly south, you could see ice flashing into the fray over southern Maine and NH and a flash to snow down here soon after.   They are effectively damming off the lvl cold from come south - I'm pretty confident in that under the radar factor in this thing. 

Good point Tip. Unfortunately I was hoping that little guy could be written off as a nuisance but that shortwave has been amping up in recent runs...

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2 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Agreed.  Great post Ginxy.

I noticed that last night too that the best runs had some crushing snows west of Chicago and lows of 996mb or lower in the Indiana/Illinois area.

Because those runs had an earlier phase, right? Allowing the surface low to deepen earlier.

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10 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

We made note of that earlier.

 

no one is really paying homage to it now, that's the point, regardless.  Lot of hand wringing at the wrong focus - I don't care who gets "credit" for seeing stuff... but the reality of it's plausible influence on this thing is still there - so, I guess someone made note of it, everyone paused for a second, then summarily resumed the clammer over the wrong focus - okay

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6 minutes ago, JC-CT said:

If my aunt had balls she would be Ginx's uncle.

I laid myself out there last night, gave it my best shot, probably will go down in a ball of flames and it is my own damn fault. My dream told beware of Jerrys damn Elephant and I ignored it. Now I have 2 hopes, some great wave watching and Ski areas up north get something.

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