packbacker Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Cold Rain said: Haha! You buy more pre-emergent than anyone I know! HAH...well I like Grits outlook, fairly blah winter, nothing extreme either direction. Probably sneak in 1-3" ala 2012. We have had fairly extreme warmth the past 12 months or so, that's been winning, I don't think seasonality is enough to justify calling for cold. The strat has gotten off to a interesting start...is that enough to carry over into heart of winter to trigger some moderate cold.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherfide Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I've never seen it this dry. It's like 1930s dry. It's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWNC2015 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Going to need a warning soon if it keeps that up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 2 hours ago, weatherfide said: I've never seen it this dry. It's like 1930s dry. It's bad. If you mean the great plains in the 30s, no it's not. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAD_Wedge_NC Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 9 hours ago, mackerel_sky said: What's up , playas? glad to see the pattern change taking place in November! That gives us 4 months to get it wrong!? JB says we will be rockin from Thanksgiving - Christmas , so what could go wrong!? Mac is in the house! Now we can get this show started... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 4 hours ago, jburns said: If you mean the great plains in the 30s, no it's not. Not even close. Not yet, but give it another year. if we don't see much rain between now and next November it's gonna get ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whamby Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Snowless in Carrollton said: Not yet, but give it another year. if we don't see much rain between now and next November it's gonna get ugly. Pattern can't last forever, and we have the Gulf of Mexico too near to us to ever become a true semi-arid climate. I don't think anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshetley Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 9 hours ago, jburns said: If you mean the great plains in the 30s, no it's not. Not even close. Yep we are a really long way from the 1930's. Even if we stay with below normal precip like I'm thinking we will through next fall, we would still not even be close to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 WRAL's Greg Fishel does the weather forecast as a mattress. http://www.wral.com/weather/video/16194924/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Dave Chappelle is hosting SNL November 12! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 I see J Shet, spitting his drought propaganda routine on the other forum! Jonesville is the new Death Valley! 100s, all day every day, with annual rainfall of 3.01" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 5 hours ago, Brick Tamland said: Dave Chappelle is hosting SNL November 12! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshetley Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, mackerel_sky said: I see J Shet, spitting his drought propaganda routine on the other forum! Jonesville is the new Death Valley! 100s, all day every day, with annual rainfall of 3.01" The drought is actually worse in Greenville county right now, thanks to my area being brushed by Hermine and Matthew. Without Matthew, upstate SC would have went through Oct. without any rain at all. Glad to see you back on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 31 minutes ago, jshetley said: The drought is actually worse in Greenville county right now, thanks to my area being brushed by Hermine and Matthew. Without Matthew, upstate SC would have went through Oct. without any rain at all. Glad to see you back on here. Thanks ! And yeah Clemson is even worse! 20-22" below for the year! GSP just inched up over the 10" below mark this week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 18 minutes ago, mackerel_sky said: Thanks ! And yeah Clemson is even worse! 20-22" below for the year! GSP just inched up over the 10" below mark this week! Man 10" is like desert totals. I really hope you guys get some rain soon. Looking at the 18z GFS not even a quarter inch showing up over the drought areas the next 16 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshetley Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 50 minutes ago, FallsLake said: Man 10" is like desert totals. I really hope you guys get some rain soon. Looking at the 18z GFS not even a quarter inch showing up over the drought areas the next 16 days. Many areas will not see 1 drop of rain this month I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWNC2015 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 set those clocks back boys and girls lots of people are forgetting and I'm sending a global email to Europe to work on the kinks of transmitting data for the EURO model to remind them of the change and see if they can start a little sooner for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWNC2015 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 im going to start scraping the frost/freeze off surfaces and save them in a zip-lock and label them date time location temperature everyday they continue to fail to issue frost/freeze products. i don't know if i should send this in a cooler to Maryland to go over their heads or take a trip to the NWS with a attitude.a little help would be nice i want representation where i live including ozone alerts from the state government too like in other areas near Asheville during wildfires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C. Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I'm no climatologist obviously, but couldn't these warming trends lead to move snow in the snow belt regions of the northeast? (warmer lakes) That being said, couldn't that lead to colder temperatures late winter into spring for the northeast and upper south with a solid snowpack on the ground? Those dynamics often bring snow showers all the way to the North Carolina mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfan98 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I'm shaking my head at all of the naysayers on the board that thinks nobody outside of the mountains in the SE gets snow. Pessimists until proven wrong, I guess. Could it happen? Sure. However, continuing to predict something that happens every 100 years doesn't seem logical to me. Maybe this is the year? We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 59 minutes ago, SimeonNC said: Exactly, the current set up is miles better than last year yet people are so pessimistic. Probably because we were burned last winter with all the talk about how good a winter it was supposed to be, and most mets calling for average to above average snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 So, three years ago today this is what we were looking at for the following week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avdave Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 2 hours ago, Brick Tamland said: So, three years ago today this is what we were looking at for the following week. I dont recall getting 12-18" on this day 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I'm shaking my head at all of the naysayers on the board that thinks nobody outside of the mountains in the SE gets snow. Pessimists until proven wrong, I guess. Could it happen? Sure. However, continuing to predict something that happens every 100 years doesn't seem logical to me. Maybe this is the year? We will see.Who thinks this? No snow outside of the mountains? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 We are currently in one of the most boring stretches of weather in a good while. What a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshetley Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 28 minutes ago, Cold Rain said: We are currently in one of the most boring stretches of weather in a good while. What a disaster. And it's not changing anytime soon. The big pattern change isn't coming anytime soon. No real rain until sometime in Dec. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, jshetley said: And it's not changing anytime soon. The big pattern change isn't coming anytime soon. No real rain until sometime in Dec. Maybe. Or probably January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 9 minutes ago, Cold Rain said: Or probably January. I'm still very hopeful for Thanksgiving or right after for our change. That would also be the best time for a change. Anything sooner and we could then flip back warm for the start of meteorological winter; we want a cold pattern to start December. Definitely banter but here is day 16 Thanksgiving Eve (I like to show dew points to indicate potential cold): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 ^ I hope we can start to lay down some expansive and deep snow cover in Canada soon. That and the evolution to a more active pattern are all I care about at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 JB is talking about the flip; from the cold pattern in Asia to a cold pattern in N. America. Siberian/Russian snow cover is way above average (3rd best?). There's a lot of cold air over there for when/if the patter flips (-AO cross polar flow) we should see a good arctic outbreak. The indices (to me) look ok in the LR. PNA does fall towards neutral/slightly positive, NAO falls to slight negative, and the AO falls solidly negative. I would like to see the PNA stronger positive, but again this is LR and is only worthy of banter right now. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/teleconnections.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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