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October, at the moment peering forward, a wild stormy affair?


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Huh?

BOX said it was way too aggressive and that the GFS was likely right. None said anything about hills

It was. He sounded disappointed.

Haha I know it was for him. It was funny of all the posters here you mention "hilltowns" and he knows it's for him.

Anyway, looks cool next week...good signal for some slightly below normal weather.

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man that looks like a wild month ....  wild flashes to warmth while the apparent cold bias/relative to the Globe is building and sagging.

 

Meanwhile, the GEFs are Sandy reduxing

Definitely a storm brewing in the western Caribbean post 240, we get that most years but the last 2 have been exceptions.

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Definitely a storm brewing in the western Caribbean post 240, we get that most years but the last 2 have been exceptions.

The main cycle runs seem to be focusing more on the Southwestern Bahamas or Southeast Florida in about two weeks while the off hour runs are more towards the Gulf. Either one of those scenarios would be good for tropical weenie enthusiasts. Of course we need it to actually develop first.

 

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The main cycle runs seem to be focusing more on the Southwestern Bahamas or Southeast Florida in about two weeks while the off hour runs are more towards the Gulf. Either one of those scenarios would be good for tropical weenie enthusiasts. Of course we need it to actually develop first.

 

 

 

I often wonder at this time of year if these globals have climo tainting built into them.  Supposedly...not, and they are free to physically process post input grids pushed forward through time.  But it just seems every mid Autumn that fantasy range GFS has that western Caribbean TC like that.  

 

It seems the climatology proves that "home grown" TCs favor that region... so to, the Gulf and book-end spinners near Florida and so forth.  It would be interesting if there 'isn't' said tainting, because if these autumn modeling tendencies are all emerging from pure physic out in time ... logically that would impose the notion that the models, although more often wrong at those ranges, must gather SOME semblance of legitimacy.    

 

Flight is impossible... the World is flat ...  

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I often wonder at this time of year if these globals have climo tainting built into them.  Supposedly...not, and they are free to physically process post input grids pushed forward through time.  But it just seems every mid Autumn that fantasy range GFS has that western Caribbean TC like that.  

 

It seems the climatology proves that "home grown" TCs favor that region... so to, the Gulf and book-end spinners near Florida and so forth.  It would be interesting if there 'isn't' said tainting, because if these autumn modeling tendencies are all emerging from pure physic out in time ... logically that would impose the notion that the models, although more often wrong at those ranges, must gather SOME semblance of legitimacy.    

 

Flight is impossible... the World is flat ...  

 

Pigs can't fly.

 

Models have climo built into them in a way, given that they take into account the changing wavelengths as the sun angle lowers. They may even take into account changing vegetation within the parameterizations.

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I often wonder at this time of year if these globals have climo tainting built into them.  Supposedly...not, and they are free to physically process post input grids pushed forward through time.  But it just seems every mid Autumn that fantasy range GFS has that western Caribbean TC like that.  

 

It seems the climatology proves that "home grown" TCs favor that region... so to, the Gulf and book-end spinners near Florida and so forth.  It would be interesting if there 'isn't' said tainting, because if these autumn modeling tendencies are all emerging from pure physic out in time ... logically that would impose the notion that the models, although more often wrong at those ranges, must gather SOME semblance of legitimacy.    

 

Flight is impossible... the World is flat ...  

Think about all the advances in modeling over even the past five to ten years. The extended range GFS can be good to pick up potential pattern changes or regimes. One thing the operational has been insisting on is that in roughly 10 days, tropical cyclonegenisis will occur somewhere off the Central American coast, most likely near Belize. At the same time, there are indications of a deep long wave trough building into the East, which should help pull the system North. Regardless of correctness, the OP and ensembles have shown some incredible run to run consistency for the past 6 cycles now.

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I haven't been looking at much the past week, but the EPS looks troughy in the east.

Last nights run was pretty cold in the LR as well. Pretty classic "winter October" pattern actually. We will see if that continues to develop as we get closer.

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I feel pretty strongly at this point that if October finds its way to a "Cool/cold wild, stormy" characteristic, the title of this thread would be complete and utter dumb luck.  The reasons set out are no longer really in play; the +PNA component of that discourse certainly is ... but it's morphed all over the place in spatial-temporal arrangement ... meanwhile, the N Pac is not really looking very AA any longer, so a goodly portion of the weight of those discussion points are no longer valid.  

 

Such is life with seasonal/long lead philosophies during the crazy stochastic time of the year.  But, ...in my own (shameless) defense, I was clear that confidence was not/never high due to that former realization.  So ...meh, ... the month looks banal yet again. 

 

Or perhaps we just keep yo-yoing on a weekly periodicity between whole-scale suggestions of volatility... followed by quiescent non-eventful ones.  Back and forth...  

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