SnoSki14 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 It is only November , you seem to be caught up in what is a FALL month at 40N. No one should be looking for snow in November at KNYC if you remove 1898 and 1938 over a the last 150 years the typical November average is closer to a trace. Some past warm November EL NINOs years 57 63 65 77 09 (moderate ) . How did those turn out ? How did a cold 97 (strong ) November work out ? It's November, and the call for an AN month was made 2 to 3 ago , so just take it in stride . http://www.weather.gov/media/okx/Climate/CentralPark/monthlyseasonalsnowfall.pdf I'm not saying anything regarding winter, just how things are shaping up in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 CFSv2 still has December at +4 to +6 degs. All time record is about +7 over the current 30 year normal. Nov. and Dec. look like they are imitating this period as it was in 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 CFSv2 still has December at +4 to +6 degs. All time record is about +7 over the current 30 year normal. Nov. and Dec. look like they are imitating this period as it was in 2001. I don't think any one really looks at the CFS . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I'm not saying anything regarding winter, just how things are shaping up in the near future. You said the pattern is ugly for winter weather as if that's a shock. It's November , you're not in winter yet , we don't see much winter historically at KNYC in November and a warm month was predicted . You shouldn't be looking for cold/snow right now at the coast , if it happens consider it a gift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 You said the pattern is ugly for winter weather as if that's a shock. It's November , you're not in winter yet , we don't see much winter historically at KNYC in November and a warm month was predicted . You shouldn't be looking for cold/snow right now at the coast , if it happens consider it a gift. Exactly. Why do people think it should be wintry when the average high is 53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Any winter action before Dec. 25, in any given year, is bonus action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Any winter action before Dec. 25, in any given year, is bonus action. Snow for us tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Any winter action before Dec. 25, in any given year, is bonus action. I would probably change that date to before December 15th. We've had numerous Decembers that were snowy / very snowy, though the vast majority of it usually falls after mid month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 You said the pattern is ugly for winter weather as if that's a shock. It's November , you're not in winter yet , we don't see much winter historically at KNYC in November and a warm month was predicted . You shouldn't be looking for cold/snow right now at the coast , if it happens consider it a gift. Yes for December I meant if anyone was looking for early wintry weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Judah Cohen was just on the weather channel. He did not divulge much. He did say Siberian snow cover is above normal which should correspond to a -Ao. But also that El Niño is not to be discounted. So he's not compeltly against NOAAs forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 You said the pattern is ugly for winter weather as if that's a shock. It's November , you're not in winter yet , we don't see much winter historically at KNYC in November and a warm month was predicted . You shouldn't be looking for cold/snow right now at the coast , if it happens consider it a gift. This. People forget last winter...November and December torched and weenies were jumping out of windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Judah Cohen was just on the weather channel. He did not divulge much. He did say Siberian snow cover is above normal which should correspond to a -Ao. But also that El Niño is not to be discounted. So he's not compeltly against NOAAs forecast.It seemed to me that Cohen was giving himself a way out in case his Siberian snowcover/-AO theory doesn't work out this winter by mentioning how strong the El Niño is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 It seemed to me that Cohen was giving himself a way out in case his Siberian snowcover/-AO theory doesn't work out this winter by mentioning how strong the El Niño is Exactly. And they never showed his actual forecast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Dec. 15 is probably more reasonable. I was being a bit conservative there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 This. People forget last winter...November and December torched and weenies were jumping out of windows True, I think last November was slighlty more winter like though. At least here, nights in the 20s were more common, and even some upper teens. Plus we had a little snow. I agree about December though, lots of days in the 50s/upper 40s, and even Christmas was a balmy 63! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 For the record: Last Nov. -2.4 range 69/22 0.2"snow 19days b.n. Last Dec. +3.0 range 65/24 1.0"snow. 13days b.n. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 For the record: Last Nov. -2.4 range 69/22 0.2"snow 19days b.n. Last Dec. +3.0 range 65/24 1.0"snow. 13days b.n. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Incredible sunset tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Incredible sunset tonight. It really is. The sky looks like it is on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I'm jealous. It's still grey overcast out here smh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 For those of you who care... "615 NOUS61 KOKX 221803 FTMOKX KOKX RADAR WILL BE DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE THROUGH AT LEAST MONDAY AFTERNOON...11/23/2015." Use KDIX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 With just a few days left before meteorological winter begins, the CFSv2 shows a near record of +6 to +7degrees is possible during the period here. This would rival the +6.4 degrees above normal [41.5 versus a normal winter of 35.1] in 2001-02, #1 on the list. Do not want to be a kill joy, but those hoping or predicting a change late in the season, the spring outlook is still about +4.0 degs. on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 With just a few days left before meteorology winter begins, the CFSv2 shows a near record of +6 to +7degrees is possible during the period here. This would rival the +6.4 degrees above normal [41.5 versus a normal winter of 35.1] in 2001-02, #1 on the list. Do not want to be a kill joy, but those hoping or predicting a change late in the season, the spring outlook is still about +4.0 degs. on its own. Cfs? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 This. People forget last winter...November and December torched and weenies were jumping out of windows Nov was not a torch last year, finished about -3F departure area wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Nov was not a torch last year, finished about -3F departure area wide. I had just a hair under 13" of snow last November... it wasn't a bad month by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Sunset this evening in Staten Island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I had just a hair under 13" of snow last November... it wasn't a bad month by any means.We had 2.5" snowfall on Thanksgiving in Dobbs Ferry as well as several days with highs in the 30s. November 2012, 2013, and 2014 were all cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Last November wasn't warm at all. December was warm though. Winter really kicked into gear at the end of January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSNOWMAN2020 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Last November wasn't warm at all. December was warm though. Winter really kicked into gear at the end of January.Patience will be Key for snow lovers ...December and maybe beginning of January may not produce much snow but then. . BAM...Snow machine in full force just my opinion .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Patience will be Key for snow lovers ...December and maybe beginning of January may not produce much snow but then. . BAM...Snow machine in full force just my opinion .... That is what everyone is saying. We just need to be patient ( I know the weenies can't do that like myself lol ). It should get colder in the 1st week of December with possibly 1-2 storms to track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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