CoastalWx Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Can't stop laughing Remember not to let emotions get in the way..lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Looks like the fog rolled in at home. still 31F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Your logic is flimsy at best. WF passages have a lot to do with low pressure strength, The fact that this is maturing well west is why the triple point goes over ern areas. You just made my argument with low strength moving the WF north because in that image..the MA had snowpack. 1994 is another example where many areas were beloiw 0F and furnaced to above 50F that afternoon. A lot of it has to do with antecedent airmass, ageostrophic flow from any high to the north and strength and deepening of low pressure to the west. I think we both agree the interior will stay cold, but you are saying nobody will warm sector. I find that hard to believe. Your logic is akin to snow not sticking because of warm ground. Snowpack helps to a point, but this "argument" is overwhelmed if low pressure deepens and moves west. That's obvious not the case here, but I don't see how you come around with the statement saying everyone will stay below 40F. ACK is 44 now with a SE wind. This whole warm sector is coming up from more of the SE-S direction..not SW direction. In other words..a place like Bridgeport will stay wedged longer than srn RI or even PVD. There is/was no flimsy logic in that original statement. I brought up several points, to argue against warm frontal displacement. You immediately focused on one, snow pack, as though that were the only component in the reasoning. That's you being flimsy in your read comprehension. And you are just flat scientifically off. Snow cover does modulate thickness; not arguable. And that absolutely plays a role in displacing frontal boundaries. I just put up a verified chart to prove it. Not sure what your deal is but I'm done with this discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 There is/was no flimsy logic in that original statement. I brought up several points, to argue against warm frontal displacement. You immediately focused on one, snow pack, as though that were the only component in the reasoning. That's you being flimsy in your read comprehension. And you are just flat scientifically off. Snow cover does modulate thickness; not arguable. And that absolutely plays a role in displacing frontal boundaries. I just put up a verified chart to prove it. Not sure what your deal is but I'm done with this discussion I addressed the other topics other than snowpack such as low strength and ageo flow and never said snow pack has nothing to do with modulation..it's just an overused weenie topic because in ern MA..warm fronts easily blast through snowpack which if you fast forward a day form your cherry picked example..you would see what happens. If you claim nobody will see any fropa..even HYA or UUU than props to you. My guess is even Kevin is likely wedged..but a lot of se MA to BOS and into PVD and CT south of 84 will get warm sectored briefly..key word briefly..that was always the point. I agree ORH and Interior NE MA won't get close..and likely Kevin. Might only even get to Ginxy perhaps. I just don't agree with the blanket "nobody will get WF sectored because of snowpack" argument. Maybe you only meant pike north or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 no warm air here...holding at 37 with drizzle....pack has shrunk for sure, but still full coverage. At least my roof is getting a break before the reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainePhotog Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Dark skies and 32.7°F at home. Temp is slow to inch upward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Places that don't hit 40 today ahead of the cold front will probably hit it tomorrow with sunshine. Looks toasty. Maybe the northern hilltowns stay just below, but I doubt it. Someone hits 50 tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 37.6 r- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 There's def been some roof issues the past few days...though thankfully they will be getting less over the next couple days as they shed some of the pack.yes very true, we received a Dept of Homeland Security CT Bulletin this morning regarding Municipal Buildings as did all towns and Fire Departments. The ongoing concern with flat roofs, north side shaded roofs, additional water weight, future storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Sitting outside DMV in IJD while my son gets stuff done looking at a single family home with easily 18” on the back roof and more on the flat. Any north side roof with small pitch is buried. Looks like quick warm slot, low dews tomorrow Sunday so unless you have steep pitch southern exposure might be smart to clean while it's warmer, just to be safe. What's coming will not melt and who knows what's really coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Wife said Greenfield was quite icy this morning. Snow pack in Cambridge has really been reduced over the past day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Places that don't hit 40 today ahead of the cold front will probably hit it tomorrow with sunshine. Looks toasty. Maybe the northern hilltowns stay just below, but I doubt it. Someone hits 50 tomorrow? I hit 49F yesterday. I expect the same tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Man not getting warm here at all at the mountain. The 2" of snow from last night is still on the trees with no dripping or melting at all. We are about 10F lower than model guidance from yesterday. I don't know what H85 temps are, but multiple sensors (including NOAA's) are sitting mid-20s at the 875mb level. 4,000ft...26F 2,600ft...28F 1,500ft...31F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Im happy w my 36.8f temp . Not much noticeable melting today. I think yesterday melted alot of the fluff, not that there was much after a few sloppy inches tues, another sloppy inch wednesday and some sleet last nite. Sat will do the real damage, if only we can get some clouds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Still haven't made it above 45F in my backyard. By the way, 38 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 35.8..Hanging tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 In Albany area today. Not sure what temp is - high 30's(?). High dews/fog, rain are relentles right now. Pack reducer for sure. Nasty, ugly, dark and otherwise closed-shade worthy of a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 up to 35F. Rain is getting closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Appears to be CG lightning with the cell down in Fairfield county; feels odd saying with this much snow on the ground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 36.9 currently. Fropa not far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Thunder for Blizz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainePhotog Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Appears to be CG lightning with the cell down in Fairfield county; feels odd saying with this much snow on the ground! I saw several reports of lightning strikes in the Berkshires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Thunder for Blizz. Looks like it will go NW of me..up over BDL maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Pouring in Kilingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnno Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 wow thunder and lightning and downpours at 36 deg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Temp actually dropping back a bit now. Snowpack holding off warm sector ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 The line of showers from Killingly up to just south of Boston, I assume is along the warm front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Spiked to 42F here quite suddenly with a burst of heavy rain after slowly ticking up through the 30s during the day. It looks like we've heading back down now with a wind shift around to the west. Snowing in the Dacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewbeer Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Thunder and lightning here in downtown Springfield. 37F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Cold sector Tstorms ala 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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