DaculaWeather Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I care. I'm definitely liking the cold, whether there's wintry precip or not. I'm OK with it too Larry, although I am starting to get Spring Fever. I just don't want oppressive heat like we had last year. I'm over the heat. And at least we have a few interesting things to track, it's better than warm and dry IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Damn Groundhog was (will be) wrong. 12z GFS at dat 15. Looks to be setting up nicely for our upcoming April Fool's Blizzard! Haha, just kidding. As far as the "cold" this March; let's be honest. How cold is it really? Sure, it's strongly negative departures for normal, but we're talking about highs in the 50s and lows in the 20s/30s, which is warmer than our mid-January temperatures. And with full sunshine, a high of 50 this time of year feels pretty warm, even if it's a -12 departure from our average (here at the moment it is 62/40). I just don't understand all the complaints about it. It feels pretty nice to me. You can have your 90s and high humidity all summer. I'll enjoy my 50s while I can. With that being said, the cold this March has been impressive. It would be nice to pull out a wintry event from it, but even so it's one of the better Marches in recent memory. Even 2009 and 2010 torched after our initial winter storms during the first few days of the month, IIRC. Tomorrow's cold looks impressive. We may not get out of the upper 30s under full sunshine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowNiner Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Looks to be setting up nicely for our upcoming April Fool's Blizzard! Haha, just kidding. As far as the "cold" this March; let's be honest. How cold is it really? Sure, it's strongly negative departures for normal, but we're talking about highs in the 50s and lows in the 20s/30s, which is warmer than our mid-January temperatures. And with full sunshine, a high of 50 this time of year feels pretty warm, even if it's a -12 departure from our average (here at the moment it is 62/40). I just don't understand all the complaints about it. It feels pretty nice to me. You can have your 90s and high humidity all summer. I'll enjoy my 50s while I can. With that being said, the cold this March has been impressive. It would be nice to pull out a wintry event from it, but even so it's one of the better Marches in recent memory. Even 2009 and 2010 torched after our initial winter storms during the first few days of the month, IIRC. Tomorrow's cold looks impressive. We may not get out of the upper 30s under full sunshine! That's my problem with it, it's not impressive in any way, doesn't really do anything other than make me wear a jacket in the morning. No, I'm not looking for 90s heat either, but I'm ready to enjoy a nice upper 60s/low 70s spring about now, where I can open the windows in the car/house. This ultra blocking/below normal just makes things uncomfortable for nothing IMO. Add rain to that equation and it's just blah...no offense Cold Rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 That's my problem with it, it's not impressive in any way, doesn't really do anything other than make me wear a jacket in the morning. No, I'm not looking for 90s heat either, but I'm ready to enjoy a nice upper 60s/low 70s spring about now, where I can open the windows in the car/house. This ultra blocking/below normal just makes things uncomfortable for nothing IMO. Add rain to that equation and it's just blah...no offense Cold Rain. Ha! I completely agree with you. I'm ready for spring and ready to put this abysmal train wreck dumpster fire winter behind us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 That's my problem with it, it's not impressive in any way, doesn't really do anything other than make me wear a jacket in the morning. No, I'm not looking for 90s heat either, but I'm ready to enjoy a nice upper 60s/low 70s spring about now, where I can open the windows in the car/house. This ultra blocking/below normal just makes things uncomfortable for nothing IMO. Add rain to that equation and it's just blah...no offense Cold Rain. If the blocking holds well into April this will be one of those years without a true spring. At least how we usually think of spring in these parts. Instead of several weeks of highs in the upper sixties and 70s we will remain cool until the pattern suddenly breaks and we skip right to the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalicwx366 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I care. I'm definitely liking the cold, whether there's wintry precip or not. Not everyone feels the same way as you. That being said, I don't take offense that you don't like it cold and dry. It is a matter of personal preference. Yeah I actually like the unusual cold this time of the year. Low of 36 tonight which is exceptionally cold here for Spring. Average low is 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbjr Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Yeah I actually like the unusual cold this time of the year. Low of 36 tonight which is exceptionally cold here for Spring. Average low is 50. !!!!!!!!!!!! And 37 here tomorrow night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stovepipe Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 !!!!!!!!!!!! And 37 here tomorrow night! YES! I'm glad you are finally getting some cold down there Jerry. You've been teased all winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Why the heck would anyone want below normal temps in spring unless it brings snow with it? What's the use? Such a waste. Just cold and dreary instead of sunny and warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Why the heck would anyone want below normal temps in spring unless it brings snow with it? What's the use? Such a waste. Just cold and dreary instead of sunny and warm.why would someone want to make the same posts over and over? What a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bob Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Why the heck would anyone want below normal temps in spring unless it brings snow with it? What's the use? Such a waste. Just cold and dreary instead of sunny and warm. If it is a trend to a Summer 09, then I will put up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 why would someone want to make the same posts over and over? What a waste.Short term memory malfunction?Hi, I'm Brick. Cold and dreary is a waste and the models can't be trusted. Hi, I'm Brick. Cold and dreary is a waste and the models can't be trusted. Hi, I'm Brick. Cold and dr.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Why the heck would anyone want below normal temps in spring unless it brings snow with it? What's the use? Such a waste. Just cold and dreary instead of sunny and warm. It sure beats 80s in March. I despise summers here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isopycnic Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 2007 had a warm spring, an early leafout and then a huge cold snap April 6-7 that brought accumulating snow then 18f in Orange county. Unfortunately that was the last meaningful moisture to fall until October in that hot azz summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 It sure beats 80s in March. I despise summers here. Temps in the 80s aren't too bad. Now, the 90s would be a different story. But I'm talking about spring like temps near 70. That is awesome and would be a lot better than 40s and rain, which we already had a lot of in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 If it is a trend to a Summer 09, then I will put up with it. Best summer for fishing EVER.....lots of backdoor fronts keeping the wind wind N or NE so that kept the north side of the Pamilco river/sound flat and more oftan than not it was cloudy and cool. We killed the flounder, specks and drum that year. It basically looked like this all summer on the river/sound, and we got to see several weak waterspouts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonGA Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 2007 had a warm spring, an early leafout and then a huge cold snap April 6-7 that brought accumulating snow then 18f in Orange county. Unfortunately that was the last meaningful moisture to fall until October in that hot azz summer. I read some sort of study once that said that the massive freeze that wiped out the foliage contributed to the drought. Something about the the lack of shade when the weather warmed up helping the moisture in the earth evaporate. I don't remember the exact details but it made sense and we all know that droughts have a way of prolonging themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isopycnic Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I read some sort of study once that said that the massive freeze that wiped out the foliage contributed to the drought. Something about the the lack of shade when the weather warmed up helping the moisture in the earth evaporate. I don't remember the exact details but it made sense and we all know that droughts have a way of prolonging themselves. That would be a neat study to read. The first set of leaves on most trees died during the freeze. The long term drought killed the second set on many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Might just be in Mr. Palmer's study here: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-precip/drought/docs/palmer.pdf and guess who created the Palmer Drought Index! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Man, why couldn't we have had this pattern in January. The below is the 12z GFS at 192 hours. It also shows potential storms after this that would have been real winter storm potentials if not for the time of year. One positive, we now know this type of pattern is still possible (..from not seeing it the last two years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Man, why couldn't we have had this pattern in January. The below is the 12z GFS at 192 hours. It also shows potential storms after this that would have been real winter storm potentials if not for the time of year. One positive, we now know this type of pattern is still possible (..from not seeing it the last two years). We had that pattern all January. It resulted in a fabulous NE winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonGA Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 That would be a neat study to read. The first set of leaves on most trees died during the freeze. The long term drought killed the second set on many others. That summer was about the most depressing I have ever seen. As an avid gardener I watched all of my plants die at Easter and then the next round die in June. On top of that the lakes were drying up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonhowl Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Temps in the 80s aren't too bad. Now, the 90s would be a different story. But I'm talking about spring like temps near 70. That is awesome and would be a lot better than 40s and rain, which we already had a lot of in the winter. Here it is March 26 and in WNC nothing but relentless cold, wind, more wind with wind (did I say wind), rain, clouds, and now watching a windy flizzard for the second consecutive morning outside my window. No, I do not want to see snow; I want spring. The pay back is the mountain summers are milder so if we can't have spring, bring on summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I must say that that storm on April 4th would have me really interested. Well, except for the fact that it's April. April snows bring dead May flowers is my mantra this year. Raleigh saw 10" of snow on April 3rd, 1915. It's been 98 years and if we make the assumption that it's a one-in-a-hundred year event, we're due. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesboroDude Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 12z EURO April 2-3 3-6" Avery, Ashe, Watauga, Alleghany, Wilkes, Surry, Stokes, 1-3" Asheville, Davie, Forsyth, Guilford, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimen Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 At this point I will just be happy with a continued wet pattern... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 12z EURO April 2-3 3-6" Avery, Ashe, Watauga, Alleghany, Wilkes, Surry, Stokes, 1-3" Asheville, Davie, Forsyth, Guilford, I'll let you start the thread, Wilkes. LOCK IT UP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarheelwx Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Quite impressive CAD signature @ 192. TW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWERSTROKE Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I'll let you start the thread, Wilkes. LOCK IT UP. 65-70 Mon-Tues? This will be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 65-70 Mon-Tues? This will be interesting I am joking about the storm. Actually, I was looking over the 18z GEFS individual member clown maps and a surprising number of the members showed accumulating snowfall across various portions of NC. Four or five showed accumulating snows (really a Big Daddy in the foothills/mountains) from basically 79W-westward and one member even had a decent snowfall for SE NC. Of course, none of that really matters and I have very little faith in getting a snowfall in April, but it was somewhat surprising, though probably just off their collective rocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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