calm_days Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I think what happened to DC, the first part of this month, should be a big lesson (or warning) for tracking this potential system. Yes... very much so! this time there is even more inconsistency in trying to model how the system or back to back systems will behave. By Wednesday it still might not be clear at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Of course we would see signals of setups now. We all knew it was coming. A ****ty winter followed by a cold spring of misery LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazaroo Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Well 12z GFS tries with a big storm but not quite there for most of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Of course we would see signals of setups now. We all knew it was coming. A ****ty winter followed by a cold spring of misery LOL. Agreed, it's not going to snow here in late March, maybe CLT, GSO and points west but this lack of spring blows. The GFS is a monster for the mountains up through the MA, looks like a March 6 redux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I appreciate your realistic approach. It is much more accurate in the long run than commenting on every positive thing that shows up way down the road. I'm sure earning your appreciation was at the top of Bob's list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Time to stoke the fire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beanskip Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 12z GFS -- not 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 but a SIX contour 850 closed low at hour 150. Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beanskip Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 On behalf of the board, we would much prefer a public fight than one over PM. You guys have a problem with me let's take it to PM....I am not going to be getting in a pissing contest with you here. This is not the first time clown name has jumped on my posts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4CF Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 On behalf of the board, we would much prefer a public fight than one over PM. I cringe at even the thought of a PM from Mr Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I am on mobile, but the Canadian looks pretty good. The GFS is still a mess, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Yokel Wx Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Via twitter (Jesse Ferrell retweet)... Last Arctic Oscillation < -5 12/18/2010 & 2/14/2010. Not been < 6 since 1985. -5.821 12/21/2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Can someone post the ukie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmundie Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 www.meteocentre.com Can someone post the ukie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowNiner Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Of course we would see signals of setups now. We all knew it was coming. A ****ty winter followed by a cold spring of misery LOL. +1 Nothing like a punch in the gut from old man winter; giving us super strong blocking AND gulf lows.......a month too late. Naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 WxSouth on facebook. One heck of a storm brewing on GFS and last few runs of Euro. If the extreme -AO works, then this will be storm of the Season for some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4CF Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Can someone post the ukie? Here you go Franklin...and my feeble attempt to comment...24-hour intervals are hard to read...Day 4 shows a low over N central Texas and one well out in the Atlantic...Day 5, the Texas low has magically disappeared and the Atlantic low bombs out over Newfoundland Mets help! http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/UKHEMI_0z/ukloop.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Everyone should root for the Canuck...I hate trying to extrapolate totals from the Canadian but it looked to be 4 - 8 for WNC and upstate areas of SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Here you go Franklin...and my feeble attempt to comment...24-hour intervals are hard to read...Day 4 shows a low over N central Texas and one well out in the Atlantic...Day 5, the Texas low has magically disappeared and the Atlantic low bombs out over Newfoundland Mets help! http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/UKHEMI_0z/ukloop.html I think you're viewing the 00z...the 12z isn't much different. It's obvious the Ukie doesn't have a hold on this system yet, the low isn't going to take that track IMO, the physics just don't work that way. Now look here I am sounding like DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 @150 on the Euro there is snow in WNC....sfc temps are a mess but especially along I-40 it looks to be all snow. CLT points west could be 2 - 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4CF Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I think you're viewing the 00z...the 12z isn't much different. It's obvious the Ukie doesn't have a hold on this system yet, the low isn't going to take that track IMO, the physics just don't work that way. Now look here I am sounding like DT. Thank you Jon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Euro is going to be good to RDU....looks like almost all of NC would be around 4 inches of snow....problem is the SFC temps outside of the I-40 regions closer to the mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnweathernut Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 @150 on the Euro there is snow in WNC....sfc temps are a mess but especially along I-40 it looks to be all snow. CLT points west could be 2 - 4. Sharp gradient to the west Burger? What track does the Euro take? Miller B'ish' like the GFS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Sharp gradient to the west Burger? What track does the Euro take? Miller B'ish' like the GFS? I know you asked Burger, but yeah, definitely miller B'ish'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesboroDude Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Foot+ mountains/northern foothills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Euro and Canadian look similar in evolution. Sfc low tracking across northern FL with inverted trough extending up into TN. Storm wave enters the U.S. in Washington state / northern Oregon, so with it entering that far north, we have the big challenge again of getting the wave to dig far enough south underneath the blocking vortex over the northeast / SE Canada (a tall task) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowNiner Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I know you asked Burger, but yeah, definitely miller B'ish'. Yuck. So much for the classic Miller A. How is the LOW supposed to cut toward Ohio/Apps with such record strong blocking? Looks like EURO folded to GFS again. Edit nevermind, this is another northern stream shot in the dark. Thought it was southern stream gulf storm. Congrats to Mid-Atlantic north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion_NC_WX Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Foot+ mountains/northern foothills. You must be blind in regards to the foothills...maybe a foot for Avery, Watauga and Ashe Counties. Maybe 3-6 for Surry, Wilkes, Caldwell and in the northern mountains from Mitchell to Madison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Yuck. So much for the classic Miller A. How is the LOW supposed to cut toward Ohio/Apps with such record strong blocking? Looks like EURO folded to GFS again. It doesn't it tracks pretty much due east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Sharp gradient to the west Burger? What track does the Euro take? Miller B'ish' like the GFS? TN looks about in the same boat as NC. SFC temps aren't there but everything else is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Euro is going to be good to RDU....looks like almost all of NC would be around 4 inches of snow....problem is the SFC temps outside of the I-40 regions closer to the mountains. Wow. Doubt this will happen, but looks like it's the Euro vs the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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