snowman19 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 17 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: We can't even get that. Its been bone dry since the snowstorm. The entire winter has been very dry going back to November Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Been reading some about the incoming El Niño and some good researchers are saying this looks like it could lead to 2026-2028 being really warm especially in the summer. I do think that with as dry as the whole US has been that once we turn warm we will be pretty hot. I am not ready for ski season to end, so all this talk of everyone being done with winter isn’t accurate. Plus we have the Winter Olympics going on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 11 minutes ago, snowman19 said: The entire winter has been very dry going back to November Last 2 years really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago How much of the snow pack was lost to sublimation vs melting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, snowman19 said: All joking aside, this has been a very dry winter and drought conditions are worsening. We are going to have big issues this spring into the summer if we don’t start getting a lot of rain. As @bluewave pointed out, the end of January snowstorm didn’t have a lot of liquid equivalent, just very good ratios with the Siberian cold that was in place, it’s not going to melt down to much….. 28 minutes ago, jm1220 said: There’s 1.5 to almost 2” liquid equivalent in the snow on the ground here. I agree we need a lot more but it’s not powder that’s for sure. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, we do need precipation but that storm was anything but high ratio for me, expect for the start of it, which was very fluffy. I wound up with 13.1" of snow and 1.80" of liquid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, North and West said: But isn’t that the point? It’s been cold since then, and now we’re getting into sun angle season, so that’s when it usually breaks. I think we’re all ready for spring. . Climo wise we have another 4 weeks. Once you get to about 3/10 or so it gets difficult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Well only thing left so far showing a hit atm is the CMC lol everything else south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago I don't think it's likely to happen, but we can hope for a 12z CMC type of solution with a wet snow event for the next potential storm Sunday night into Monday. Would be nice to get at least a little accumulation from that storm to ensure that February won't be a shutout. I am glad that we're going into a mild pattern for awhile after that potential storm. We can use some 50 degree weather after how cold this winter has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, nycsnow said: Well only thing left so far showing a hit atm is the CMC lol everything else south This is a real thread the needle situation with the borderline temps. Only a slight chance but at least it's something to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiEaglesfan712 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 42 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said: Been reading some about the incoming El Niño and some good researchers are saying this looks like it could lead to 2026-2028 being really warm especially in the summer. I do think that with as dry as the whole US has been that once we turn warm we will be pretty hot. I am not ready for ski season to end, so all this talk of everyone being done with winter isn’t accurate. Plus we have the Winter Olympics going on! If we get a strong el nino, the summer leading into the el nino will be warm in the Western US, and the summer exiting the el nino will be warm in the Eastern US. The only time that was flipped was the 1991-92 el nino, but that was due to Pinatubo. If the el nino ends in early 2028, then that might meaning cooler (more comfortable) weather for the 2028 Summer Olympics in LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 12 minutes ago, nycsnow said: Well only thing left so far showing a hit atm is the CMC lol everything else south That's how you know it's toast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: That's how you know it's toast The CMC Para last night was pretty wild lmao. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 13 minutes ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said: If we get a strong el nino, the summer leading into the el nino will be warm in the Western US, and the summer exiting the el nino will be warm in the Eastern US. The only time that was flipped was the 1991-92 el nino, but that was due to Pinatubo. If the el nino ends in early 2028, then that might meaning cooler (more comfortable) weather for the 2028 Summer Olympics in LA. I think this will be weak-moderate. The CFs/Euro have been too strong on forecasting ENSO events. I tend to go more with the ENSO model average...right now they barely have this even making it to 1.0....regardless mostly El Nino summers as you say are pretty cool here in the east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Euro AI even further south at 12z followed by rain the 19th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, nycsnow said: Euro AI even further south at 12z followed by rain the 19th Fat lady's gearing up on this winter... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Fat lady's gearing up on this winter... Yup…. Hopefully we can get something else if not it was a waste of cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, snowman19 said: The entire winter has been very dry going back to November Yes, but we had multiple snow events, most of them light... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Euro wiffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar9 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Maybe for you guys, 10.4” average here after 2/28 last 10 Marches/Aprils. Over 3” in all but 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 20 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: And here are the most common high-low combinations for New York City: One of the anti-Weathergamis is not like the others! You can see how the relative lack of variability in the summer versus the winter leads to many more unique combinations occurring in the wintertime than the summer. Spring and fall, of course, are more changeable in general, so they have the lowest number of common high/low pairings. Interesting data! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago After steadily increasing QPF amounts over the least several issuance's the latest WPC 7 day QPF has been notable decreased. This has been an ongoing trend. Systems that offered promise in the longer range just dwindle as we get closer. I'm not even looking for snow at this point. I just want some rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 42 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: I don't think it's likely to happen, but we can hope for a 12z CMC type of solution with a wet snow event for the next potential storm Sunday night into Monday. Would be nice to get at least a little accumulation from that storm to assure that February won't be a shutout. I am glad that we're going into a mild pattern for awhile after that potential storm. We can use some 50 degree weather after how cold this winter has been. 25 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: The CMC Para last night was pretty wild lmao. The map doesn't show a snow hole over central Union county NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 11 minutes ago, nycsnow said: Euro AI even further south at 12z followed by rain the 19th Yeah AIs wanted nothing to do with this system from the start, red flags 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Euro wiffs Well- at least we won’t be envying Norfolk getting another 12” blizzard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, jm1220 said: Well- at least we won’t be envying Norfolk getting another 12” blizzard. yep just a rain storm this go around.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, deathstar9 said: Maybe for you guys, 10.4” average here after 2/28 last 10 Marches/Aprils. Over 3” in all but 3. The pretty common theme here is people along the coast and in central New Jersey and the city are often pretty quick to call and end to winter in late February. For those of us 30 miles or more north and west of New York City latitude and longitude, most of March is just thought of as another winter month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Weird mix of rain and sleet just came through lower Manhattan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 18 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: Yeah AIs wanted nothing to do with this system from the start, red flags They’ve been performing quite well this winter, gotta say. They did well with the December clipper threats too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 9 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: The pretty common theme here is people along the coast and in central New Jersey and the city are often pretty quick to call and end to winter in late February. For those of us 30 miles or more north and west of New York City latitude and longitude, most of March is just thought of as another winter month. March has a very different feel to the other months. Temperature-wise it's like late Nov into early December but with a much higher sun angle. So yes it can snow, but it almost always melts quickly. Elevation makes more difference in March too. Albany, NY tends to switch to Spring pretty quickly in March most years, while the high country of southern VT and the Catskills can still feel like deep winter. It's very location dependent but almost always categorized by freeze-thaw, mud, and residual salt grime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, eduggs said: March has a very different feel to the other months. Temperature-wise it's like late Nov into early December but with a much higher sun angle. So yes it can snow, but it almost always melts quickly. Elevation makes more difference in March too. Albany, NY tends to switch to Spring pretty quickly in March most years, while the high country of southern VT and the Catskills can still feel like deep winter. It's very location dependent but almost always categorized by freeze-thaw, mud, and residual salt grime. I agree with some of what you say, but you obviously never lived in Albany LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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