psv88 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 35 today and lots of snow melting off the panels. Solar production highest since January 24. Its been really bad since then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 11 minutes ago, Roger Smith said: I don't care how they sort, to a statistician, the value after two values tied seventh is ninth, not eighth. If you are at the Olympics and you come in one place after two skiers who tie seventh, you are ninth, not eighth place. More to the point, if you were one behind two tied for second, you would not get a bronze medal, you would finish fourth. Every Canadian knows this because for many, many years we would always say, hey fourth, not too shabby. Back to what you were doing ... because people there actually pay attention to the winter olympics.....my wife is colombian; never heard of the winter olympics before she came here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 7 minutes ago, TJW014 said: Sun feels great. Getting to that point in the year where I don't need to crank the heat on full blast when getting in the car in the afternoon. It's already warm inside. yes i'm able to walk outside again, without fear of frostbite but slip and falls are still a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 They have a different kind of snow in Colombia, from what I hear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: On the Jersey shore I'm sure it does. To those of us to the north of NYC latitude I've always looked at the first two to three weeks of March as just another winter month. After the 20th or so I agree. We can get snow even here in March, I have pics from a few year back a solid coating on like the 28th, and I’m fairly inland to the immediate coast. It’s just a preference thing whether I live here or in upstate Vermont, more tied in with the length of a solar day. My point was Feb is early to call winter, March is more preferential - but I’m not naive to the climate differences over the relative short distances across the northeast and various metros. I didn’t extend my thoughts on March to anyone but myself. March is absolutely still winter even down here, especially in the northern pine barrens where overnights remain very cold on radiative cooling nights. Like I said, it’s more an abstraction than empirical as far as what I like / dislike or feel is a winter vibe or not, paramount is dark, short days. I was being tongue in cheek about the sun. It’s similar to how the sun starts to ‘look like fall’ in August, nothing beats the dark of December and the feel of looking to the entire winter ahead - that’s more what I meant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 As there is no discussion thread for cold and snow Friday night into weekend, feel free to use contest thread to discuss details. I have amended the thread title. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, bluewave said: The NWS at Upton uses dense rank sorting and doesn’t skip ranks following ties. I think this makes more sense since we are ranking the temperature and not the year. It’s more misleading in my opinion to skip ranks since it makes the rank more subjective when there are multiple ties. To me in the charts above for example, the 39.7 in 1990 is the 9th coldest temperature but the 13th coldest year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Tomorrow will be another cold day with highs in the upper 20s and lows in the teens. A strong surge of Arctic air will arrive for the weekend, possibly accompanied by some snow flurries or snow showers. Some areas could pick up a heavier snow squall. Much of the region could see a coating to an inch of snow early Saturday morning. The temperature will rise no higher than the lower 20s in New York City Sunday will be even colder. Temperatures on Sunday will likely top out in the teens in New York City with a low in the single digits. The persistent and often severely cold pattern will likely break near February 10th. However, exceptional warmth appears unlikely through at least mid-February. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.1°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.4°C for the week centered around January 28. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.38°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.57°C. La Niña conditions will likely continue into at least late winter. The SOI was +28.05 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -2.852 today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Roger Smith said: They have a different kind of snow in Colombia, from what I hear. now that is funny....they do have mountain snows, and they do get these awesome hail storms that actually can accumulate and look like snow otg.....see them in bogota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Volcanic Winter said: We can get snow even here in March, I have pics from a few year back a solid coating on like the 28th, and I’m fairly inland to the immediate coast. It’s just a preference thing whether I live here or in upstate Vermont, more tied in with the length of a solar day. My point was Feb is early to call winter, March is more preferential - but I’m not naive to the climate differences over the relative short distances across the northeast and various metros. I didn’t extend my thoughts on March to anyone but myself. March is absolutely still winter even down here, especially in the northern pine barrens where overnights remain very cold on radiative cooling nights. Like I said, it’s more an abstraction than empirical as far as what I like / dislike or feel is a winter vibe or not, paramount is dark, short days. I was being tongue in cheek about the sun. It’s similar to how the sun starts to ‘look like fall’ in August, nothing beats the dark of December and the feel of looking to the entire winter ahead - that’s more what I meant. ask anyone irish....it's always cold on st patty's day....i was down in monmouth co i think it was 2003 in march, we were at a meeting at a school in matawan and it started snowing. it started coming down heavy and our district called early; but we were already stuck at this meeting. it got very bad quickly going up the gsp; heavy wet flakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 I saw over 2 foot think frozen dirt other day that was excavated for a construction project... haven't seen frost that thick in years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 minute ago, weatherpruf said: ask anyone irish....it's always cold on st patty's day....i was down in monmouth co i think it was 2003 in march, we were at a meeting at a school in matawan and it started snowing. it started coming down heavy and our district called early; but we were already stuck at this meeting. it got very bad quickly going up the gsp; heavy wet flakes. The third week of March is typically the turning point. Yes, it CAN snow until April, like 2018 for example, but that's highly anomalous. So by that measure we have about 5 weeks left of wintry potentials. Anything after should be considered a treat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 3 hours ago, Nibor said: It’s been a good winter. A return to form. Still have most of February and early March left. March seems to be decadal. 2010s had some great March months but the last one was 2019 where 10.4 fell in central park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 hours ago, bluewave said: The NWS at Upton uses dense rank sorting and doesn’t skip ranks following ties. I think this makes more sense since we are ranking the temperature and not the year. It’s more misleading in my opinion to skip ranks since it makes the rank more subjective when there are multiple ties. Its a huge trade-off when it is showing the 64th longest streak as the top 18. To illustrate with an extreme example, imagine a series where all of the values were 100 except the latest, which was 10. To say it is the second highest ever is not useful information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, lee59 said: To me in the charts above for example, the 39.7 in 1990 is the 9th coldest warmest temperature but the 13th coldest warmest year. Fixed. But I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 ISP has not risen above 32 yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Down to 21 from 35. Temps drop like a rock after dark. It’s wild. Every night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Down to 24 here from 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, psv88 said: Down to 21 from 35. Temps drop like a rock after dark. It’s wild. Every night The black ice is getting really bad too with the daily snowmelt and immediate refreeze after sunset. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 17 minutes ago, jm1220 said: The black ice is getting really bad too with the daily snowmelt and immediate refreeze after sunset. The small amount of meltwater dripping from the roof during the day has been freezing in front of the front door as it falls, not only after sunset. Those bricks are cold and slick. I broke a vow and threw a little salt on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 4 hours ago, LoboLeader1 said: Extreme Cold Watch Issued: 1:03 PM Feb. 5, 2026 – National Weather Service ...EXTREME COLD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY EVENING THROUGH SUNDAY AFTERNOON... * WHAT...Dangerously cold wind chills of 20 below possible. * WHERE...Portions of southern Connecticut, northeast New Jersey, and southeast New York. * WHEN...From Saturday evening through early Sunday afternoon. * IMPACTS...The cold wind chills could cause frostbite on exposed skin in as little as 30 minutes. Anyone remember the old wind chill tables pre 2001? Some of those numbers seemed ridiculous even at the time. Under the old wind chill system, on Saturday night, the predicted 4 degree temperature for me would result in a wind chill of roughly -45 during a 40 mph max predicted gust, vs. the -22 in the current tables. The "Freezer Bowl" playoff game in 1982 between the Bengals and Chargers featured a -9 game time temperature and 35 mph gusts. As reported at the time, the wind chill was -59 at the time, and based on the tables seems it would have been even lower. Today, it would be a relatively mild -41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prue11 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 17. This weekend looks to be last of the extreme cold and temps begin to moderate closer to average. I think we’ll all Be happy with that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar9 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 4 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: On the Jersey shore I'm sure it does. To those of us to the north of NYC latitude I've always looked at the first two to three weeks of March as just another winter month. After the 20th or so I agree. Absolutely, mid-March 2017 was probably my favorite storm in the last 10-15 years, solid cold during and for several days after. March 2018 had a bunch of storms including one big one and 2019 was very solid as well. Prior to that March 2013 and 2015 were great. Lately it’s been much worse but 2022 and 2023 had some decent events. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 3 hours ago, weatherpruf said: because people there actually pay attention to the winter olympics.....my wife is colombian; never heard of the winter olympics before she came here. Just watched Curling earlier this evening, good day for the USA. 2 hours ago, weatherpruf said: ask anyone irish....it's always cold on st patty's day....i was down in monmouth co i think it was 2003 in march, we were at a meeting at a school in matawan and it started snowing. it started coming down heavy and our district called early; but we were already stuck at this meeting. it got very bad quickly going up the gsp; heavy wet flakes. It's St. Paddy's Day, Patty is short for Patricia I've had St Paddy's Day parties when I had to move snow banks for parking and I've had them where we all hung out on the deck. 14/8 here currently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 12 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: Just watched Curling earlier this evening, good day for the USA. It's St. Paddy's Day, Patty is short for Patricia 14/8 here currently. since 'Paddy" is a british ethnic slur, some reject it and use the American St Patty's or St Pat's.....or in my house, el dia de san patricio....patron de irlanda....if you're not asleep from watching curling..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 In case you missed the post I made in western subforum, highs in 70s today in coastal Oregon and in chinook zones of Montana, and near 60F in Vancouver and Seattle. The clipper coming southeast tomorrow will not pull any of that in but right now it is above freezing in southern Manitoba so you may get a brief spike in temps Friday afternoon or evening before the arctic cold front arrives. It quickly falls to -30 F (-34 C) as that front passes through northern Manitoba. The source of the cold air is transpolar but more from Greenland than Alaska or Siberia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 45 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: since 'Paddy" is a british ethnic slur, some reject it and use the American St Patty's or St Pat's.....or in my house, el dia de san patricio....patron de irlanda....if you're not asleep from watching curling..... It's Paddy because in Irish Patrick is spelled Padraig. There are way worse "ethnic slurs" used by the Brits and their collaborators. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 16 already. Tonight should be in the single digits here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prue11 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 13.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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