Major Hurricane Melissa - 892mb - 185mph Jamaica landfall

[mempho]

10 minutes ago, ATDoel said:

There are plenty of videos of storm chasers standing in major hurricane/typhoon winds, you will never find one of a chaser standing directly in any tornado of any size.  You're severely downplaying the importance of the vertical component.

I'm not going to post a video here because I don't want to confuse anyone, but look up Typhoon Haiyan videos.

You are not taking into account that chasers have time to prepare with a hurricane with respect to wind direction, debris, etc.  In those cases, chasers look at the upwind areas for sources of potential debris that could impact them.  Chasers spend the days and hours prior to the storm looking for right locations to get the right camera shots and the wind velocities are reasonably predictable.  

The other issue with a tornado is that the much smaller diameter of a tornado means that debris will often be lofted downwind of you and it will not have time to fall out before coming back around.   

These are huge differences between the two.  

[wthrmn654]

From that jamaica webcam site only 1 of the cams is now down pretty dam impressive. 

[weathermedic]

Lots of people there utilize satellite for internet

 

[Scott747]

28 minutes ago, ATDoel said:

There are plenty of videos of storm chasers standing in major hurricane/typhoon winds, you will never find one of a chaser standing directly in any tornado of any size.  You're severely downplaying the importance of the vertical component.

I'm not going to post a video here because I don't want to confuse anyone, but look up Typhoon Haiyan videos.

This is total bs.

You won't find one video of any chaser standing directly in legit sustained major hurricane/typhoon winds.

[GaWx]

 Per Brad P live feed, Santa Cruz is now flooding. Also, large portions of many towns (homes and cars) are now being swept away by extreme flash flooding coming off the mountains. The way he is talking it sounds catastrophic. One town he mentioned is Mandeville.

[esullivan]

https://x.com/volcaholic1/status/1983245789158642173

Volcaholic has a lot of scary videos of flooding in the mountains in his X posts.

[WEATHER53]

1 minute ago, Scott747 said:

This is total bs.

You won't find one video of any chaser standing directly in legit sustained major hurricane/typhoon winds.

That is correct .  They are astute at staying alive and walking out into open space with 150 mph  sustained is a life ender 

[Wannabehippie]

10 minutes ago, wthrmn654 said:

From that jamaica webcam site only 1 of the cams is now down pretty dam impressive. 

As long as the batteries hold out, and they don't get physically blown away, they probably will be able to keep broadcasting. Once their batteries run out, that will be it it for at least a few days.

 

[Wannabehippie]

9 minutes ago, Scott747 said:

This is total bs.

You won't find one video of any chaser standing directly in legit sustained major hurricane/typhoon winds.

100% spot on. They will find a place that is sheltered from the wind to broadcast from, or will just hunker down.

[GaWx]

Jeff P. is now witnessing a flooding catastrophe in Santa Cruz in his live feed:

 

[Floydbuster]

 

[Interstate]

It is bitter sweet watching the eye collapse right in front of our eyes.

[WxWatcher007]

Live cam of Montego Bay looks even more ferocious now. 

[olafminesaw]

Even with the eye collapsing the symmetry it had maintained is incredible. It may not have suffered much structurally, although I wouldn't expect any restrengthening once it gets back over water (probably at cat 3 strength)

[pazzo83]

36 minutes ago, Scott747 said:

This is total bs.

You won't find one video of any chaser standing directly in legit sustained major hurricane/typhoon winds.

well you might if they are really really stupid (and they won't be standing for long lol)

[Cobalt]

13 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Live cam of Montego Bay looks even more ferocious now. 

Ramped up even more since this message, that utility pole in the distance is really swaying now. 

[WEATHER53]

5 minutes ago, pazzo83 said:

well you might if they are really really stupid (and they won't be standing for long lol)

They will prove that indeed msn can fly !!!

[SnowGoose69]

3 minutes ago, Cobalt said:

Ramped up even more since this message, that utility pole in the distance is really swaying now. 

Definitely picked up as soon as winds flipped more NW from the ENE

[AdamHLG]

Where is the eye in relation to this Reuters live feed at this point?

 

[SnowGoose69]

1 minute ago, AdamHLG said:

Where is the eye in relation to this Reuters live feed at this point?

 

The last minute or two I think they are partially in the eye.   Conditions seemed to have improved a bit 

[HKY_WX]

3 minutes ago, AdamHLG said:

Where is the eye in relation to this Reuters live feed at this point?

 

I'm assuming it's just ESE of that location. It's facing the ocean, so that wind is probably coming from the ENE switching to N soon

[HKY_WX]

2 minutes ago, HKY_WX said:

I'm assuming it's just ESE of that location. It's facing the ocean, so that wind is probably coming from the ENE switching to N soon

It will be interesting to see if the ocean starts creeping up on that cam as the winds switch north.

[WxWatcher007]

Looks like the center is near the coast now, so we’re going to find out soon just how intact that core still is. 

[RaleighNC]

2 hours ago, ATDoel said:

The only reason the damage was bad for Helene was because so many communities built in the floodplain of the creeks and rivers.

There is no other place to build there, and Helene's flood was orders of magnitude bigger than any prior flood, so it reached areas that had been assumed to be safe. Much like what is about to happen to Jamaica. 

 

And landslides happen where you never think a flood will happen. To say Helene didnt have any "wiped off the map" damage as one poster said, is just wrong. Ask Chimney Rock and Bat Cave and Minneapolis and any number of other communities. When the mountainside comes down, everything is gone.

I pray for these poor people in the way of this one. 

[Interstate]

6 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Looks like the center is near the coast now, so we’re going to find out soon just how intact that core still is. 

Looks pretty messy on the latest radar image

 

[WxWatcher007]

C4 now

[WxWatcher007]

Just now, Interstate said:

Looks pretty messy on the latest radar image

 

Can you post? I can’t get the regional radars to work.

[Interstate]

6 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Can you post? I can’t get the regional radars to work.

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=subregional-W_Caribbean-15-48-1-100-1&checked=map&colorbar=undefined

[ineedsnow]

7 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Can you post? I can’t get the regional radars to work.

Going to be interesting to see what she does in a few hours once back over the water

[Torch Tiger]

portion of a roof went off in that Reuters live feed!