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Wondering if they could create a new category like "isolated flood advisory" which would be for potential of isolated flood warning/ flood emergency events.  Save the flood watches for the potential of widespread flood warning events.  Otherwise, everyone is going to start ignoring these watches.

Agreed.
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I understand the frustration, but the flood/flash flood watches are to encompass entire counties that are within an area that have favorable conditions for flood prospects. 
 
The pattern recently has been less about organized cell clusters and more about more localized convective schema, so these are probably the ones that are extremely annoying to see for those that miss out. I do feel we probably issue too many in these parts (That’s my personal opinion which is just that at the end of the day), but today is actually a day where it is justified. The concern today will be initiation spatially, because if you miss to the west on initiation, you’ll get nothing and areas downstream should get hammered. Hopefully everyone in the sub gets something today. This environment is very ripe for efficient rainfall makers. 

I just noticed that I’ve been under a couple of these watches and haven’t had much, if any, rain. It is a remarkably humid pattern and I know that when it rains, it can torrent, but think it’s ultimately been more sporadic than a watch should justify. Today seems more ripe.
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47 minutes ago, Weather Will said:

Wondering if they could create a new category like "isolated flood advisory" which would be for potential of isolated flood warning/ flood emergency events.  Save the flood watches for the potential of widespread flood warning events.  Otherwise, everyone is going to start ignoring these watches.

Many are already ignoring the watches because its the boy who cried wolf too often.

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54 minutes ago, Weather Will said:

Wondering if they could create a new category like "isolated flood advisory" which would be for potential of isolated flood warning/ flood emergency events.  Save the flood watches for the potential of widespread flood warning events.  Otherwise, everyone is going to start ignoring these watches.

Agree, but the basic citizen really can't tell the difference between a Watch and Warning. I've always advocated for a Watch and a "Oh Sh##! It's happening" distinction. 

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1 minute ago, coolio said:

Agree, but the basic citizen really can't tell the difference between a Watch and Warning. I've always advocated for a Watch and a "Oh Sh##! It's happening" distinction. 


I mean…that is the distinction. 
 

But I do appreciate the point that the public struggles with that difference.

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13 minutes ago, stormy said:

Many are already ignoring the watches because its the boy who cried wolf too often.

The public has a personal responsibility to maintain a basic level of situational awareness. If they choose to ignore dangerous conditions around them after being warned, then that's on them. We cannot consistently play to the lower common denominator or loudest complainer in the room. Sometimes, you just have to FAFO. 

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10 minutes ago, stormy said:

Many are already ignoring the watches because its the boy who cried wolf too often.

I agree that happens, but then the time you have no watch and all hell breaks loose people wonder why forecasters dropped the ball…or in the most dramatic and tragic of consequences people die. Idk if there’s a particularly great way to do this. 

I think we also suffer from the bias that we’re weenies here. We track and follow this stuff. For some person that’s completely clueless about wx, a watch may actually be helpful because otherwise they would’ve had no idea if not for the local news mentioning it on their way out of the door or popping up on their dumb (sorry, editorializing lol) weather app. 

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36 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said:

The public has a personal responsibility to maintain a basic level of situational awareness. If they choose to ignore dangerous conditions around them after being warned, then that's on them. We cannot consistently play to the lower common denominator or loudest complainer in the room. Sometimes, you just have to FAFO. 

the more we cater to the lowest common denominator, the more collectively stupid society becomes.

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Flash flood warning now for my yard.

* Flash Flood Warning for...
  Southwestern Washington County in north central Maryland...
  Northeastern Berkeley County in the panhandle of West Virginia...

* Until 600 PM EDT.

* At 248 PM EDT, Doppler radar and automated rain gauges indicated
  thunderstorms producing heavy rain across the warned area. Between
  1 and 2 inches of rain have fallen. The expected rainfall rate is
  3 to 4 inches in 1 hour. Additional rainfall amounts of 1 to 2
  inches are possible in the warned area. Flash flooding is ongoing
  or expected to begin shortly.

  HAZARD...Flash flooding caused by thunderstorms.

  SOURCE...Automated rain gauges have reported nearly 2 inches in
           about half an hour so far.

  IMPACT...Flash flooding of small creeks and streams, urban
           areas, highways, streets and underpasses as well as
           other poor drainage and low-lying areas.

* Some locations that will experience flash flooding include...
  Hagerstown...                      Martinsburg...
  Williamsport...                    Saint James...
  Berkeley...                        Halfway...
  Falling Waters...
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Well as usual the cell to my SW missed my area by a hair,  and continued to intensify and is now warned North of me, and because of the slow storm movement has a flash flood warning posted. 

Flash Flood Warning
DEC003-142345-
/O.NEW.KPHI.FF.W.0057.250714T1933Z-250714T2345Z/
/00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
Flash Flood Warning
National Weather Service Mount Holly NJ
333 PM EDT Mon Jul 14 2025

The National Weather Service in Mount Holly has issued a

* Flash Flood Warning for...
  West Central New Castle County in northern Delaware...

* Until 745 PM EDT.

* At 333 PM EDT, Doppler radar indicated thunderstorms producing
  heavy rain across the warned area. Between 1 and 1.5 inches of
  rain have fallen. Additional rainfall amounts of 0.5 to 1.5 inches
  are possible in the warned area. Flash flooding is ongoing or
  expected to begin shortly.

  HAZARD...Flash flooding caused by thunderstorms.

  SOURCE...Radar.

  IMPACT...Flooding of small creeks and streams, urban areas,
           highways, streets, and underpasses as well as other
           drainage and low lying areas.

* Some locations that may experience flash flooding include...
  Mount Pleasant.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

 

 

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28 minutes ago, MN Transplant said:

Last two runs of the HRRR seem to finally catch on that this initial line will be the main event for the metros while the later line will tap the unmodified areas to the south.

There will be a gap between the beltway and Woodbridge from each line.  That will be me.  

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