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IDA remnants-Moderate to isolated Major Impact (esp NJ-LI), general storm total 2-8" rainfall Wednesday-Thursday September 1-2 2021


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33 minutes ago, Intensewind002 said:

It looks like I might see more rain here in albany than back at home on long island. I haven’t really been tracking ida since landfall so i honestly didn’t realize the heavy had trended north

Rain has moved in to the south shore of Nassau County.  It was actually raining pretty hard about 15 min ago

 

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1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

That's an interesting region for that to happen....Don, think that corrects further north where the higher peaks are?  I'm thinking from around Hazleton to Mt Pocono.

 

The hills south of Allentown top out between 800-1000', compared to the 250-350' elevation of the valley below. They aren't insignificant.

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17 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

it's not like this storm is moving into the Great Lakes though, this is a pretty good storm track for us

 

It’s really about the rain over S PA now-how intact it is when it makes it to our region and whether it heads more ENE or NE. If more NE then the heaviest rain stays over CT and Hudson Valley. If it’s more easterly and the warm front can’t push as far, we all get drenched. 

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1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

For some reason this reminds me of the overnight part of the storm we had in January 2011.....we had 5"/hr rates for a few hours and ended up with 19" when most were calling bust because precip was light or nonexistent during the day.

 

Actual busts are pretty rare in the age of better modeling. Models do a great job at identifying when heavy precipitation potential exists for the region. It’s just very difficult to pinpoint the exact locations for summer convection and winter snowstorm banding. Since I grew up in the 70s and 80s, one of my definitions off a bust is the models completely missing a storm. The most recent example of this was models  the day before the Jan 25, 2000 snowstorm forecasting no precipitation here. Another type of bust is getting the p-type wrong. Like the January 2008 event that would up mostly rain instead of snow. These two types of model busts were par for the course before the early 90s. While January 2015 was a big forecast amount miss, the blizzard just shifted to a further east part of the forum. NYC got lower amounts than forecast but still a significant snow. So all I really need to see from a model in the warm season is being correct with the the general heavy convection signal. I have learned to be patient on where the specific heaviest rainfall verifies. We often need to rely more on nowcast location of mesoscale features.

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