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Though far from the norm, stories like this are scary.  38 year old guy died at home 3 days after being diagnosed.

Iowa teacher dies 3 days after testing positive for COVID-19

BELMOND, Iowa —

The Belmond-Klemme Community School District is mourning the loss of a beloved teacher.

Jason Englert's family said he tested positive for coronavirus three days before he died. The 38-year-old teacher was found dead inside his home on Nov. 8.

https://www.kcci.com/amp/article/iowa-teacher-dies-3-days-after-testing-positive-for-covid-19/34648767

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Calling Government transfers "socialism" is lolz. That is a disgrace to the white men of the indentured classes who started the lingo(along with communism, which started in pre-revolutionary france) in the 18th century by Christians.

Guys, the economy is simply not that bad. Between the transfers and increased bank money creation, 7 trillion dollars has been created since March 2020. That will slush around for years. Nor are anything Ohio or New York doing impressive. It will cost little in economic activity. Every state must house sick people in facilities and let them hope for the best. They won't get care until it becomes available, some will die as a result.  This will burn out by early spring, dropping cases and returning things to normal as vaccinations start so any flare up doesn't happen.

My 20 year old Nephew got 600 dollars to not work until later in the spring/summer and it was larger than his normal check. He is back working and is loaded with cash. I suspect people on that 600 saved up quite a bit of it and payed down loans, creating credit space. They will be ok to later in 2021 when this pandemic starts going into the rearview mirror.

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I go to CNN's web page and the front page is all about the election. Someone needs to remind them that there's a virus out there.

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6 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said:

Remember the Halloween spike starts this weekend. Its only going to get worse folks

How long is average time between exposure and cases being reported? My guess is 10-14 days. So next 2-3 days would be that time frame

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15 minutes ago, dan11295 said:

How long is average time between exposure and cases being reported? My guess is 10-14 days. So next 2-3 days would be that time frame

There's no "spiking" it's just consistent exponential growth. Like, you can't see individual events or holidays leading to these great surges, at least right now. 

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Interesting the interior Southeast has had lowest overall Rt. I am guessing that's due to less indoor gatherings compared to other states which have experienced cooler weather already. But clearly temperature isn't everything. Southern California (until last 2-3 day), Arizona & Florida are rising again, and haven't experienced cold weather. Also MS, GA have rising hospital/case numbers now so they are clearly have Rt>1.0 now too. 

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14 minutes ago, dan11295 said:

Interesting the interior Southeast has had lowest overall Rt. I am guessing that's due to less indoor gatherings compared to other states which have experienced cooler weather already. But clearly temperature isn't everything. Southern California (until last 2-3 day), Arizona & Florida are rising again, and haven't experienced cold weather. Also MS, GA have rising hospital/case numbers now so they are clearly have Rt>1.0 now too. 

Likely can be attributed to a decrease in sunlight/UV radiation

“We found that ultraviolet light was most strongly associated with lower COVID-19 growth rates. Projections suggest that, in the absence of intervention, COVID-19 will decrease temporarily during summer, rebound by autumn, and peak next winter.”

 

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Unchecked exponential growth going on for weeks now. I don't know why I am shocked at this point. It's crazy knowing that this virus is going to burn through most people I know and there's nothing I can do about it.

I was on a walk a few nights ago when it was still warm out and I saw my neighbor get carried away in a stretcher. He's dead now. :( I have yet to hear whether it was coronavirus related or not, but I would be surprised if it wasn't at this point. I had just seen him walking dogs a few weeks ago.

These next few months are going to be a dark time.

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4 hours ago, purduewx80 said:

Likely can be attributed to a decrease in sunlight/UV radiation

“We found that ultraviolet light was most strongly associated with lower COVID-19 growth rates. Projections suggest that, in the absence of intervention, COVID-19 will decrease temporarily during summer, rebound by autumn, and peak next winter.”

 

Makes you wonder if an outdoor gathering in fall has higher risk than the same outdoor gathering in summer, simply due to less UV.  Obviously much better than having one indoors though. 

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8 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

Indianapolis starting to lock back down 

There are areas of the state that actually have worse spread than them on a per capita basis.  But I guess you have to be a little more careful in more populated areas since the potential ceiling on growth is so high.

Here are the changes for Indianapolis.  Besides this, schools are also going virtual.

 

The following changes go into effect Monday, Nov. 16: 

  • Indoor capacity will be reduced to 25 percent for bars and entertainment venues, although outdoor capacity will continue to be allowed up to 100 percent.
  • Restaurant capacity will remain at 50 percent indoors with outdoor capacity at 100 percent.
  • Self-service buffets and salad bars are banned. 
  • Karaoke is banned.
  • Maximum party size at tables, restaurants and bars is reduced to six people. 
  • The midnight closure requirement that previously applied to bars, restaurants and clubs will now be extended to all non-essential hospitality and entertainment businesses, including live entertainment venues. 
  • Special or seasonal events, such as fairs, concerts, movie screenings, weddings, sporting events, are now limited to 25 percent of the venue's capacity. They may include more than 50 people only if the event has an approved safety plan from the Marion County Public Health Department. This is a reduction from the current 250 person limit.
  • Religious centers are limited to 75 percent capacity.
  • Cultural venues, music venues, museums, tourism sites and other non-essential tourism venues are reduced to 25 percent capacity. 
  • Gyms and fitness centers, as well as private clubs and fraternal organizations, are reduced to 25 percent indoor capacity. 
  • Marion County will now require a negative COVID-19 test within 72 hours for a visit to any long-term care facility. 

 

https://www.wthr.com/amp/article/news/health/indiana-coronavirus-updates-for-thursday-november-12-2020/531-c778ffae-5ee5-483c-88c2-5d4562225cbe

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I'm not really sure what this is going to accomplish....

 

CHICAGO — Mayor Lori Lightfoot on Thursday announced a "stay-at-home" advisory — not an order — for 30 days in response to spiking coronavirus cases.

The city's advisory takes effect at 6 a.m. Monday. Lightfoot said gatherings will be limited to 10 people.

The advisory includes:

 
  • Do not have gatherings in your home with anybody outside of your household (except for essential staff such as home health care workers or educators), even with trusted family or friends.
  • Avoid all non-essential, out-of-state travel; if travel is essential, quarantining or testing negative prior to travel is required, depending on which state a traveler is originating from.
  • Comply with City and State Orders, including wearing face coverings, limiting gatherings, and mandating early closure of non-essential businesses at 11pm.
  • Practice social distancing and avoid touching surfaces frequently touched by others if you go outside to get fresh air.
  • Use remote modes of communication like phone or video chat instead of visiting friends or family, especially on holidays such as Thanksgiving.

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16 minutes ago, RyanDe680 said:

I'm not really sure what this is going to accomplish....

 

CHICAGO — Mayor Lori Lightfoot on Thursday announced a "stay-at-home" advisory — not an order — for 30 days in response to spiking coronavirus cases.

The city's advisory takes effect at 6 a.m. Monday. Lightfoot said gatherings will be limited to 10 people.

The advisory includes:

 
  • Do not have gatherings in your home with anybody outside of your household (except for essential staff such as home health care workers or educators), even with trusted family or friends.
  • Avoid all non-essential, out-of-state travel; if travel is essential, quarantining or testing negative prior to travel is required, depending on which state a traveler is originating from.
  • Comply with City and State Orders, including wearing face coverings, limiting gatherings, and mandating early closure of non-essential businesses at 11pm.
  • Practice social distancing and avoid touching surfaces frequently touched by others if you go outside to get fresh air.
  • Use remote modes of communication like phone or video chat instead of visiting friends or family, especially on holidays such as Thanksgiving.

Could've waited for the new IHME update, which could be any time now.  It's like not waiting for the Euro.  :weenie:

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15 hours ago, Snownado said:

I go to CNN's web page and the front page is all about the election. Someone needs to remind them that there's a virus out there.

O ya, covid was supposed to go away after the election :lol:.   The media just controls it lol 

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23 minutes ago, Geoboy645 said:

https://www.nbc15.com/2020/11/12/covid-19-is-so-bad-in-wisconsin-dhs-needed-a-whole-new-category/

I don't know what's worse, the fact that they had to make a new category or the fact that all but 7 counties are already in it.

Does this mean that at that rate, herd immunity is simply approximately 3 months away?

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FYI, the top six worst states today, as has been the past weeks, are all great lakes states

IL

MN

WI

IN

MI

OH

 

So far, these states represent 42% of today's total cases and 36% of today's deaths.  Pretty sad

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Yes, by February, cases will be dropping rapidly, though deaths will be strong until March due to the lag. The long term effected will be in the 10's of millions. States need extra facilities to handle these excessive cases with medical personal treating normal sickness and injury as usual. A place where they can be cordoned together and tagged, especially in time of death. Its a gruesome thought, but its where we are at. Vaccines will then be used to stop any more future outbreaks.

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