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Winter Begins Jan 20th AWT


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Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Feels like I’m up against Charles Barkley with all the head fakes. 

Noise.

Yeah there is basically no change. Just take it from that angle. It is faster which will make it seem warmer than it really was in comparison to 06z. 

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3 minutes ago, Spanks45 said:

Far enough north to bring rain in here now, similar to 6z, just less frozen precip this time around...

You wouldn't rain on that. While the euro is far superior to the GFS with its handling of CAD, it is still going to underplay it quite a bit...esp on the southern extent closer to the low track. 

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It's hard to tell with the off-set intervals but it looks like the Euro's held serve on the phasing timing.. 

The warm push at 850 gets too far N to be "cold solution" however - so not sure what filter people are using to interpret that. 

It's probably not final, either - nor is the Euro totally correct.

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2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

You wouldn't rain on that. While the euro is far superior to the GFS with its handling of CAD, it is still going to underplay it quite a bit...esp on the southern extent closer to the low track. 

I have noticed systems like this go either way...last year's storm a couple days before Christmas took forever to warm up here and when it did, I think we barely hit 33. On systems with a strong sse wind, we warm up faster than expected, flipping from snow to sleet to rain really quick. The models are going to their typical windshield wiper game right now, so I expect to see it go back and forth for a bit. I just don't want half of the precip falling as frz rain, sleet and snow please. I enjoy my heat when the temps are near 0....

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3 minutes ago, Chrisrotary12 said:

The only noticeable change in the morning operational runs is that both the GFS and ECMWF cut back on qpf as someone mentioned.

Yeah, I had said that a page back or so, But for the type and speed of the system, Like i said, Its probably 12-18" for a big swath with maybe a weenie 20" in there but i don't see anyone getting 2' as modeled right now unless this blows up into a miller B with stacking lows and thats for the ones that stay all snow, If you have some pellets in there, I would probably go 8-14" in those areas.

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Just now, MarkO said:

LOL. Like I said, I will be! I'll even do a shot for you.

ECMWF ticked warmer towards the GFS AITIW. Get out there and pile it high before the rain. :D Seriously, I think you get wet between your legs for a bit but it will just add your pack. Good luck.

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