Damage In Tolland Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just now, sbos_wx said: The city is wintry. Not a ton of snow but it has stuck around. I haven't moved my own car since the storm and the ice is still frozen to my windshield. Wait 12 hours. It's all a dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Looks like another morning below zero for me. It's currently -1...I think BOX had me at 10 or 12 last night. The 10PM update used the old "near steady temperature" phrase...oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Wait 12 hours. It's all a dream I'm fine with it. I won't even have to clean my car off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WthrJunkyME Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 We were to have a low of +4 this morning and woke up to -8 . Not even close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 22 minutes ago, MetHerb said: Looks like another morning below zero for me. It's currently -1...I think BOX had me at 10 or 12 last night. The 10PM update used the old "near steady temperature" phrase...oh well. Low of 12 here..now 14 Hard to believe tomorrow morning at this time, the grass is back, the pack is gone it's 50 with roaring winds. The 80's winter continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 51 minutes ago, MetHerb said: Looks like another morning below zero for me. It's currently -1...I think BOX had me at 10 or 12 last night. The 10PM update used the old "near steady temperature" phrase...oh well. It's fake anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just like ''real people'' not actors lol. I guess actors aren't people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: Wait 12 hours. It's all a dream Like the movie Inception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 -1 glad we don't live on the Mastiff 9.0 depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 -4F. Done with this nonsense. My dog despises this cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 59 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: It's fake anyways. Yeah, a forecast like that usually is. Actual low was -3° at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanks45 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I took this last night, we ended up with -1.3 here and still 5.7 with clouds rolling in...I know it's fake cold, but still impressive otherwise, I think DXR hit 1 this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 We dropped to 3.2F. Climbing slowly. 8.7F now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Low of 3F here last night, time for the rain to wash away the snow cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 2 hours ago, CoastalWx said: It's fake anyways. -5 of real cold yesterday (breeze stayed up thru the night) and about -16 of fake cold this morning, apparently lower even than BML - they had clouds roll in during the night. Forecast Sunday had yesterday's low being considerably lower than this morning's, and maybe that was the case on the sidehills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Coldest I saw in NH this morning was -18F at the Errol COOP. Only hit -1.4F here on the hill, but the Winni River HADS site didn't get any lower than me. Like tamarack said, some clouds put a lid on the radiational cooling and a little WAA aloft didn't help either. The really sheltered valleys around here still managed -5F to -10F though. It's definitely a more "fake" cold though. My chickens aren't too intimidated by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Spanks45 said: I took this last night, we ended up with -1.3 here and still 5.7 with clouds rolling in...I know it's fake cold, but still impressive otherwise, I think DXR hit 1 this morning. I guess BOX wasn't the only office not paying attention last night. Most temps were below the forecasted AM low by 9-10PM last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, dendrite said: The really sheltered valleys around here still managed -5F to -10F though. It's definitely a more "fake" cold though. If we can have "fake" cold, can we also have "fake" snow if it only occurs in elevated areas? I mean, it's a localized event and does not represent the entire atmospheric column as I've been told. So if it's 32° and snow at 1K and 34° and rain at 500', isn't that "fake" snow at 1K? If a valley reading at -10° is "fake" and shouldn't count, we shouldn't be counting elevated snow unless it occurs at all elevations, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, MetHerb said: If we can have "fake" cold, can we also have "fake" snow if it only occurs in elevated areas? I mean, it's a localized event and does not represent the entire atmospheric column as I've been told. So if it's 32° and snow at 1K and 34° and rain at 500', isn't that "fake" snow at 1K? If a valley reading at -10° is "fake" and shouldn't count, we shouldn't be counting elevated snow unless it occurs at all elevations, right? Well upslope is fake snow anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Barre Falls Dam claims they got to -7F. They are only about 5 miles away and similar elevation. Even though they are Army Corps of Engineers, sometimes I question their temps and snowfall reports. Over 10 degrees F colder than my house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: Well upslope is fake snow anyways. So is OES...so lop off 4" of Saturday's snow totals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just now, HoarfrostHubb said: Barre Falls Dam claims they got to -7F. They are only about 5 miles away and similar elevation. Even though they are Army Corps of Engineers, sometimes I question their temps and snowfall reports. Over 10 degrees F colder than my house Depends mostly on the terrain. Even in the same town you can have one location in a valley 1kft and another on top of a hill at 1kft. Both could potentially see drastically different conditions on radiational cooling nights. I won't speak for your example as I haven't analyzed the terrain for your CWOP site and the COOP...just throwing it out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Not to offend the radiators...but the shallow, calm cold definitely doesn't have the bite of those really low thickness airmasses. Maybe it's better to call them plain old cold and call the wind chill adv airmasses "man cold". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, dendrite said: Not to offend the radiators...but the shallow, calm cold definitely doesn't have the bite of those really low thickness airmasses. Maybe it's better to call them plain old cold and call the wind chill adv airmasses "man cold". It's a very sensitive group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 See some talk about jet extensions across the Pacific...why exactly would that imply or favor across the US...would it increase likelihood for a more zonal type pattern? Is there an importance to this or is just like cool to see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just now, weatherwiz said: See some talk about jet extensions across the Pacific...why exactly would that imply or favor across the US...would it increase likelihood for a more zonal type pattern? Is there an importance to this or is just like cool to see? Those extensions usually lead to breaks or trough near the west coast. That in turn would mean milder weather in the east. Something usually feeds the jet and causes it to extend, whether it's blowoff from tropical convection..or just typical rossby wave (or storminess) that causes a fast Pac jet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Those extensions usually lead to breaks or trough near the west coast. That in turn would mean milder weather in the east. Something usually feeds the jet and causes it to extend, whether it's blowoff from tropical convection..or just typical rossby wave (or storminess) that causes a fast Pac jet. Thanks! Looking at the graphics and such this looks like a pretty impressive extension being modeled, no? Would mountain torque also play a role in where breaks/trough occurs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 20 minutes ago, dendrite said: Depends mostly on the terrain. Even in the same town you can have one location in a valley 1kft and another on top of a hill at 1kft. Both could potentially see drastically different conditions on radiational cooling nights. I won't speak for your example as I haven't analyzed the terrain for your CWOP site and the COOP...just throwing it out there. Could be. They are along a river...but not much of a valley Warming up nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: It's a very sensitive group. It's all we got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: It's all we got Nah, you got good elevation too...so don't sell the radiational cooling victim card from Hubbardston. We're not buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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