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Winter Banter & General Discussion/Observations


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17 hours ago, psv88 said:

But you are saying that an extreme event, aka a 4"+ rainfall, is indicative of climate change...so you are using extreme events as part of your data set, albeit to indicate the increased frequency of said events, but still using the events nonetheless, so one extreme event forms the part of a trend, therefore the individual extreme events naturally, must be, still indicative of climate change...

I'm using a five-fold increase in the frequency of such events during the final one-sixth of a 120+ year record compared to the initial five-sixths.  Such a major uptick over a 20-year period at a location with well over a century of record should count more, IMO, than a 20-month string of AN months.  However, it's still just one location, and it's similar data from many locations that support the trend.

(Side note:  I've downloaded NYC data from some good sites, and though my numbers obviously aren't official, they show May of last year to be right on the 1981-2010 average and April at -0.10.  That's a pretty tiny departure, and one must go to June 2015 (-0.66) for a wider spread, and to Feb-Mar of that year for serious BN months.)

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3 hours ago, Googlymoogly said:

Does this weather warrant any actual concern? Just feels wrong. I don't know how to explain it but it bothers me and lots of others. 

Please don't call me a weenie. I'm being serious!! 

Enjoy the variability.  Consider Caribou in 1994: Just 3 weeks after completing their coldest month (Jan 1994) in what is now 77 years' record, they touched 59 on Feb 20, their warmest Feb day by 7F.  Despite the warmth record, that month finished more than 7F BN.

I just meant the chance for below 0F is greatly diminished. I did refer to climo. 

Much better odds at my frost pocket location.  In 18 years here, only March 2010 ailed to record at least one subzero morning.  (And that month did not even get down to single digits.)  That plus the modeled temps for the first half of the month point toward 18-of-19 getting below zero.

And the snowpack this winter, once one gets off the coastal plain, seems to be good to excellent.  I doubt I'll ever again reach 3800+ SDDs like 2007-08, but I see this season joining the 4 other winters at 2400-2800.

 

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2 hours ago, weathafella said:

I'm Kevin.  Snow and high summer.  Old people like humidity for our skin.

To each their own - I'd be happy if TD never got above 50.  My favorite times are winter, May (unless it features endless chilly cutoffs like 2005) and October.  Crisp clean air, bright colors in Oct and lovely pastels in May.

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1 minute ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

As I get older, the more I despise snow and having to deal with it.  I'm dome with petty snowstorms.  All I care for is blizzards and than have it melt away in a couple days.

 

I don't want to implicate/impugn anyone ...or be offensive in general, but it really is a maturation issue.  Funny you put it this way, Bob.

Some folks never really "outgrow" it...  Others do.   

It's just my opinion:  it comes down (mentality -wise) to opening one's appreciation up to other aspects of weather,

If that is impossible for some 'users of the drug,' then they need to open their minds/appreciation for a broader pallet of life's experience in general.  Either way, when they do, the obsessing over "petty snow" (as you call it, but it's petty anything really) goes away pretty quick.  Focus redirects to bigger ticket show items, convection items, heat or cold, the Celtics the Patriots, the holocaust dystopian political landscape that's hit America like an asteroid impact...to relationship/social and back, all of it, that bandwidth is given to life (for lack of better word).

Buuut, in the end, this is a public attraction ... for those that are attracted to it.  The moderating is softer.  It has to be (no offense to ya'all).  This site became a profit vehicle shortly after it speciated off of Eastern moons ago, and when that happened...the site makes money off of ad revenues; and that enterprise is ultimately based upon the number of mouse clicks; not screening out users from clicking mice ;).   

Point being, it's almost futile to really even discuss it because one can be spot on correct in these observations, then there are two schools:  don't contribute and move on into other pass-times; or, it won't change the fact that if it is a maturation issue, then it's a natural process that takes time at the individual level, but will never go away.  blah blah. 

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Ahhhh......warm air so close but yet so far.  47F low overcast.  Had about .10" shower earlier.  How far north will the warm front get into CNE this afternoon.  Love to share in the warmth but can't complain with my 65F yesterday.   

CONGRATS BOSTON  highest Feb temp ever.  Let's see if we can make 73 or 74F!

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