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ORH_wxman

By ORH_wxman,
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CT Valley Snowman

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Since My definition of winter is about Dec 10-March 10 in my area around these parts it's about time for a mid term on the 2017 winter season.

 

1.  Total Snowfall:        C   I have 17 and average 47-48 only at about 36 percent or so

2.  Snowfall retention:   F   I've had to literally jump in the car right after a storm ends to take my kids sledding to avoid melting. I've held thin layers of crust for some periods but certainly a lack of total coverage for much of the winter

3.  Temperatures:        C-   Despite having a few cold shots and a definite improvement over last year overall temperatures consistently average above normal

4.  Excitement              C-   General lack of significant threats, probably would have been a D if not for the last storm although getting a positive bust and feeling good about  getting 1.5" of sleet speaks volumes about the winter overall

Overall  1st half grade   D+  Not a total failure and a modest improvement from last year but lot's of work to do here to get these grades up. Time for the winter of 2017 winter to hit the books . Cautiously optimistic that Feb/Early March can make some improvements to these grades but not sold on getting past a C+ without some major 2nd half improvements. 

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2 hours ago, eekuasepinniW said:

I didn't clear my steps yesterday thinking that they'd melt and clear themselves.  

Boy was that a poor decision.

My driveway was interesting this morning.  My little buggy almost couldn't get out.  This afternoon even it was tricky so I snowblowed what I could.  Our front porch and stairs were like glass this morning.  Thankfully those melted clear

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48 minutes ago, CTValleySnowMan said:

Since My definition of winter is about Dec 10-March 10 in my area around these parts it's about time for a mid term on the 2017 winter season.

 

1.  Total Snowfall:        C   I have 17 and average 47-48 only at about 36 percent or so

2.  Snowfall retention:   F   I've had to literally jump in the car right after a storm ends to take my kids sledding to avoid melting. I've held thin layers of crust for some periods but certainly a lack of total coverage for much of the winter

3.  Temperatures:        C-   Despite having a few cold shots and a definite improvement over last year overall temperatures consistently average above normal

4.  Excitement              C-   General lack of significant threats, probably would have been a D if not for the last storm although getting a positive bust and feeling good about  getting 1.5" of sleet speaks volumes about the winter overall

Overall  1st half grade   D+  Not a total failure and a modest improvement from last year but lot's of work to do here to get these grades up. Time for the winter of 2017 winter to hit the books . Cautiously optimistic that Feb/Early March can make some improvements to these grades but not sold on getting past a C+ without some major 2nd half improvements. 

I pretty much agree with all of these.  Maybe increase the snowfall grade to C+ here.

i would drop excitement to D+ though.  The biggest excitement for me was the little 3" powder bonus I got NYE and the thundersnow squall that gave me 0.5"

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1 hour ago, CTValleySnowMan said:

Since My definition of winter is about Dec 10-March 10 in my area around these parts it's about time for a mid term on the 2017 winter season.

 

1.  Total Snowfall:        C   I have 17 and average 47-48 only at about 36 percent or so

2.  Snowfall retention:   F   I've had to literally jump in the car right after a storm ends to take my kids sledding to avoid melting. I've held thin layers of crust for some periods but certainly a lack of total coverage for much of the winter

3.  Temperatures:        C-   Despite having a few cold shots and a definite improvement over last year overall temperatures consistently average above normal

4.  Excitement              C-   General lack of significant threats, probably would have been a D if not for the last storm although getting a positive bust and feeling good about  getting 1.5" of sleet speaks volumes about the winter overall

Overall  1st half grade   D+  Not a total failure and a modest improvement from last year but lot's of work to do here to get these grades up. Time for the winter of 2017 winter to hit the books . Cautiously optimistic that Feb/Early March can make some improvements to these grades but not sold on getting past a C+ without some major 2nd half improvements. 

A+ for me, little or no snow lately in town and snow for the mtns up north.

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11 hours ago, CTValleySnowMan said:

Since My definition of winter is about Dec 10-March 10 in my area around these parts it's about time for a mid term on the 2017 winter season.

 

1.  Total Snowfall:        C   I have 17 and average 47-48 only at about 36 percent or so

2.  Snowfall retention:   F   I've had to literally jump in the car right after a storm ends to take my kids sledding to avoid melting. I've held thin layers of crust for some periods but certainly a lack of total coverage for much of the winter

3.  Temperatures:        C-   Despite having a few cold shots and a definite improvement over last year overall temperatures consistently average above normal

4.  Excitement              C-   General lack of significant threats, probably would have been a D if not for the last storm although getting a positive bust and feeling good about  getting 1.5" of sleet speaks volumes about the winter overall

Overall  1st half grade   D+  Not a total failure and a modest improvement from last year but lot's of work to do here to get these grades up. Time for the winter of 2017 winter to hit the books . Cautiously optimistic that Feb/Early March can make some improvements to these grades but not sold on getting past a C+ without some major 2nd half improvements. 

Temps should definitely get an F. When the entire season is averaging greater than +3 or +3.5, that deserves a failing grade and certainly no better than a D.

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24 minutes ago, dendrite said:

It's been pretty dry here. Would love more liquid equiv going into Feb.

Not sufficient to overcome the dry spell, but Oct.-Jan. is running 108% of average here, assuming no more this month.  Given the near 7" in my current snowpack, there should be a good groundwater recharge this spring.

First time for everything.  While I was driving to a forestry research meeting at UMaine yesterday morning, the car ejected the driver's side wiper blade onto the passing lane of I-95 south of Bangor.  Not wishing to play "frogger" with trucks going 70 thru the rain (trucks had probably crushed the blade anyway) and with very limited shoulder plowing, I had to continue 15 miles to a rest area, where I could pull away from traffic and move the other blade to where it would be useful.

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21 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

I was gonna say Jackman...similar answer.

Rangeley records about 10% more snow, but if their respective depth records are valid, Jackman holds a bigger pack, having 7 winters of the past 30 reach the 50" mark.  Social life is livelier in Rangeley, unless one has a passport and visits St.-George, PQ, 40 miles up the road.

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6 minutes ago, tamarack said:

Rangeley records about 10% more snow, but if their respective depth records are valid, Jackman holds a bigger pack, having 7 winters of the past 30 reach the 50" mark.  Social life is livelier in Rangeley, unless one has a passport and visits St.-George, PQ, 40 miles up the road.

Is this akin to being the tallest midget? ;)

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52 minutes ago, tamarack said:

Rangeley records about 10% more snow, but if their respective depth records are valid, Jackman holds a bigger pack, having 7 winters of the past 30 reach the 50" mark.  Social life is livelier in Rangeley, unless one has a passport and visits St.-George, PQ, 40 miles up the road.

 

Rangeley has some really nice elevated areas. Jackman does too, esp SE of town, but on average it's probably a few hundred feet lower. Rangeley is all above 1500 feet until you get down to Sandy River...so I could see where their actual cumulative snowfall is better.

 

Jackman has the extra push of latitude that really makes them immune to torches so I can see how their depth is superior...not that Rangeley is a torch spot...probably torches less than any of the NH/VT spots, but within Maine, it gets pretty sick once you keep going north. Not that I have to tell you...you know all this from experience a lot better than I. We love to call Pinkham Notch to Sunday River  the CAD capital of New England...but if we're being more precise, we should say Rangeley to Jackman to like Clayton Lake....though we're now talking basically no civilization once you get up into the Allegash.

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10 minutes ago, #NoPoles said:

I have a friend who remembers hiking in Yellowstone on June 24th, in the 1990s and was hit by a blizzard. Would like to know how to figure out that exact year. Not sure how to look up weather records.

If they were hiking at enough elevation, it could honestly happen any year and might not be trackable on wx records since the weather stations may have been too low for snow or at least good accumulation. I quick search on climod2 did not reveal anything for June 24th...but again, it could have happened at an elevation higher than the places I looked.

 

Snow out there in June isn't all that uncommon.

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