JC-CT Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 The Cape gets more than that. From maybe 34-39" as a whole in most areas. The avg is also the sum of extremes there, but upper Cape gets just under 40. From Barnstable west I could see averages more in the 30s. But east of that I bet it is in the 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Yawn. Maybe SNE severe of marble hail and 40mph winds.Violently disagree. Tor's,, and they always get big wind damage in and around there. Several times a summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Well then we should figure out exactly what we mean. No question CEF will do better with events at or below 12" and a no brainer they avg more snow. However, the big events aren't very friendly to CEF and it would drive me nuts to know everywhere around me is getting more snow than I am. I was going to compare it to BTV but it's not even like that...even in the Champlain Valley being further north is better and totals increase. Whereas for whatever reason at CEF it almost seems like it would be better to be south near BDL or between there and HFD, or up in Greenfield. But for BTV, you do usually watch other areas nearby get more snow, but there are meso-scale things that can still jackpot BTV like this past system with converging north flow. There's really nothing at CEF that favors them except getting lucky with a mid-level band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Well thanks, but no reason to be jealous. This area can do ok in marginal . setups . I tend to like ULL scenarios or smaller 1-3 type events. I'd take a whole winter of nickel and dimers and continuous snowpack if given the choice. I just enjoy having snow OTG. It's melting now with a temp of 35.1/ 34 , but it was nice having a wintry scene outside the last 6-7 days . But your area can actually hold CAD better than here depending on the setup so it's all relative I stayed freezing rain until about 9AM last Tuesday, about 6+ hours of good icing while HVN got all rain. Not sure how the hills did on that event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I was going to compare it to BTV but it's not even like that...even in the Champlain Valley being further north is better and totals increase. Whereas for whatever reason at CEF it almost seems like it would be better to be south near BDL or between there and HFD, or up in Greenfield. But for BTV, you do usually watch other areas nearby get more snow, but there are meso-scale things that can still jackpot BTV like this past system with converging north flow. There's really nothing at CEF that favors them except getting lucky with a mid-level band. It is absolutely a snow hole. If you are not confident in the size of your snowfall, it is a tough place to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 From Barnstable west I could see averages more in the 30s. But east of that I bet it is in the 20s. Nope. Even ACK is 31" I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Nope. Even ACK is 31" I believe.Where do you get exact numbers from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Where do you get exact numbers from? I'll have to find it. It's not in NWS NOWdata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Where do you get exact numbers from? Found it. It's only through 2012, but based on 2 yrs..likely close to or just above 30". http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?ma5159 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Im only 10 minutes or so from springfield and many times we have more snow here that place is a pit for snow It's a snow pit relative to its surroundings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Hey that's winter right there...no matter if its only 2", the grass is covered and its white. That's more snow than we have left here. Only about 50% covered as of of this afternoon. Looks like the 21st system quickly going down the sh*tter. But, that was clear this morning. 32.0/31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Found it. It's only through 2012, but based on 2 yrs..likely close to or just above 30". http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?ma5159 That site says that Hyannis averages 25.3", Provincetown 19.5" and Plymouth 35.5". Hyannis http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?ma3821 Provincetown http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?ma6681 Plymouth http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?ma6486 It's a cool site though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 That site says that Hyannis averages 25.3", Provincetown 19.5" and Plymouth 35.5". Hyannis http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?ma3821 Provincetown http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?ma6681 Plymouth http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?ma6486 It's a cool site though. There is the Hyannis COOP and the official station at the airport..both don't report regularly. You have the coop site. COOP sites aren't always correct, but I know even Will said they avg close to 30". ACK that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I think the averages are pretty solid Springfield proper is probably more like 44-45 and the suburbs are closer to 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Don't forget, the Cape gets those scraper 3-5" deals that miss the rest of us. They avg more than some think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Hartford is worse than Springfield. Downtown average is probably closer to 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Living in the valley there is definitely a urban heat island effect that makes Hartford/ Springfield even worse than some of the surrounding suburbs but the region as a whole is a relative snow hole. Often the most dynamic storms have the most pronounced shadow effect and we will be getting snow while the coastal plain is getting rain but we will be having boundary layer issues without the really good rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 back to the storm at hand I see how Kevin could sneak in a 2-3 snowfall . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Im only 10 minutes or so from springfield and many times we have more snow here that place is a pit for snow yes even this past minor event was a good example there was an inch or two on the ground in both Agawam and and Enfield but Springfield downtown was pretty much wet. even the eastern part of the city up off Interstate 291 and towards the Eastfield mall often does better than downtown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 even here in Enfield I held onto patchy snow cover until early Monday morning. I was surprised that Kevin still had such a white blanket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols89 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 This looks like a 3--6" type of an event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Best news I can find right now...1/8/88 is the #1 analog on CIPS at 120 hours...there are some similarities in that there was no ridge out west but there was more cold air to work with a piece of vorticity dropped out of Canada into the NRN plains which likely helped the situation on the East Coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR Airglow Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 0z GFS has less than 0.1" QPF for all, most get nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Gfs offers little if anything Edit: actually looks like nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR Airglow Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Nothing on the parallel GFS either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 This storm went down the drain fast. Another bust by the Euro and ensembles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 The Euro can sniff out amped rainers, though. The pre tday event never stopped coming nw....now? Crickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 This storm went down the drain fast. Another bust by the Euro and ensembles? I'm not ready to give last rites for this one yet. Maybe by this time tomorrow if there is model consensus on whiff or strung out mess but there is still potential for measurable for a lot of posters here. Meanwhile 34/33 RA here atm. .16 in the gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Well another weird low develops from a s/w moving in and almost becomes an inv trough, it's more s/w mayhem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Sounds like Euro and GGEm ens still have it..Should see 12 z guidance start to pick it up today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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