BuffaloWeather Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 He lives in an LES belt.... for a month. That lake will probably drop 5 degrees in 2 days. Granted... that takes NOTHING away from what is happening... Totally epic. Yeah Lake Erie freezes by end of January/early Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Buffalo - compared to the rest of the eastern US, you live in a snow belt. You don't live in the heart of the snow belt, but you are in the northern part of the Lake Erie one. Epic pictures and videos, keep them coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Buffalo - compared to the rest of the eastern US, you live in a snow belt. You don't live in the heart of the snow belt, but you are in the northern part of the Lake Erie one. Epic pictures and videos, keep them coming! Fair enough. If you guys lived here you would know no one considers myself a snowbelt. Just hard to explain I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huronicane Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 http://www.erh.noaa.gov/buf/climate/buf_snow00s.php Different things. Jan - Dec vs. Jul - Jun. http://www.umsl.edu/~naumannj/Geography%201001%20articles/Ch%202%20climate%20&%20weather/Lake%20effect%20snow%20around%20the%20great%20lakes.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 He lives in an LES belt.... for a month. That lake will probably drop 5 degrees in 2 days. Granted... that takes NOTHING away from what is happening... Totally epic. We get les until it freezes. Typically Jan. Last year ice formed quite early in Dec I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Buffalo - compared to the rest of the eastern US, you live in a snow belt. You don't live in the heart of the snow belt, but you are in the northern part of the Lake Erie one. Epic pictures and videos, keep them coming! Ya definitely south of town. Everywhere from east of Cle to Buff and south of the lake gets alot of LES ...and is the "snow belt". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Fair enough. If you guys lived here you would know no one considers myself a snowbelt. Just hard to explain I guess. That's pretty amazing if that's the case. Maybe there are different perceptions between locals and outsiders but to any reasonable outsider, you're definitely part of the snow belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 We get les until it freezes. Typically Jan. Last year ice formed quite early in Dec I believe. The western basin freezes much quicker than the deeper northeastern portion. Usually late Jan our LES season is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Fair enough. If you guys lived here you would know no one considers myself a snowbelt. Just hard to explain I guess. I can kind of understand that - if you live there and see what happens winter and winter. "Its a local thing" There's local weather terms (and other types) around here as well. Maybe up there by Bo, there is specific area that are considered snow belts and others not, even if they are close to Lake Superior. Radar images like these are worth saving. That is a "sick" northern cutoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I can kind of understand that - if you live there and see what happens winter and winter. There's local weather terms (and other types) around here as well. Radar images like these are worth saving. That is a "sick" northern cutoff. Wow what a cut off! I'd be so mad if i was on the north side lol. Also, agree...western basin does ice over earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Been snowing good all day here, called off work was planning on firing up the sled until I realized I had 2' plus on my roof already and were going to get more Thursday. By the way these were takin a couple hoursr ago, another 3inches has fallen since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Been snowing good all day here, called off work was planning on firing up the sled until I realized I had 2' plus on my roof already and were going to get more Thursday. By the way these were takin a couple hoursr ago, another 3inches has fallen since then. Awesome pics! You're going to need a larger snowblower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Re the date, I remember a couple or maybe three outbreaks like this in Nov 1976 with heavy lake effect snow, and of course an epic cold winter (although short-lived past Feb 10th) followed. There was a big dump of lake effect snow around Nov 22-23 of 1970 at the front end of another good winter. As I recall, small lakes were frozen over in central Ontario in late November in 1976, quite often the freeze date for them is closer to Christmas. However, I can also recall a big lake effect snow storm at the end of Nov 1979 in south town areas (s BUF) and that winter was a total dud afterwards, unless you lived in Virginia Beach where they got rocked on leap year day 1980. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Great pics Josh. Going to take you a while to clear the drive even with a snow blower! --- Had to share these two images I found from two West Seneca traffic cams. Use Alternative route - yeah no kidding! If you look closely enough you can see a semi under the bridge buried! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Great pics Josh. Going to take you a while to clear the drive even with a snow blower! --- Had to share these two images I found from two West Seneca traffic cams. Use Alternative route - yeah no kidding! westseneca111814LES.png If you look closely enough you can see a semi under the bridge buried! westseneca111814LESsemi.png Ha, I just roof raked my house, pretty tired, may cheat and have my neighbor drop his plow instead Currently between two heavy bands, still expect a few more inches today. Thursday is looking pretty good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Hey I don't live in a LE belt either! 55" of snow since Halloween and a depth of 34" today. Never had to clean a roof off this early in a season. The 3' storm last week was a heavy wet snow and with the mini thaw/rain possible, didn't want to risk anything. LOVE IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I always used to think of the western NY state snow belt as running from south end of BUF to just north of Olean, but of course you can get heavy snow squalls further north sometimes in either SW or N-NE winds. I wouldn't say ROC was in the snow belt but they can get heavy lake effect. But I would say SYR and ART are in snow belts. Just a general term anyway, same in south-central Ontario, locals talk of the "snow belt" as being 20-30 miles north of London and north, then generally a bit north of K-W and Guelph to around Orangeville and over towards Lindsay, but heavy snow squalls can sometimes hit south of that zone. There was some chat on here about where is the best LES in Ontario -- would say the northern half of Simcoe County (Barrie, Orillia and Midland), south Parry Sound and most of Muskoka, also Grey-Bruce can be epic (that would be the part around YVV that separates Lake Huron from Ggn Bay). The Lucan snow belt just north of London is a bit less guaranteed to hit but when it does, also epic amounts. Then in WSW winds they get hit in southern Prince Edward county that sticks out into eastern Lake Ontario, as well as in south Niagara across from BUF. If the winds come around more to SW then Kingston can get very heavy snow but it's not spoken of as being a snow belt area like Watertown NY would be. Of course there's also a heavy snow zone east of Lake Superior. Nobody would call Toronto-Hamilton a snow belt but when winds are persistently east to northeast then it becomes a temporary snow belt. The Georgian Bay snows usually peter out rather gradually and typically have 100-150 miles of reach inland across Algonquin Park and towards the Ottawa valley, so that snow belt is fairly extensive to the north of Peterborough. I used to live in Lakefield northeast of Peterborough and the locals talked about the snow belt starting just north of there but we would get a lot of light leftover lake effect anyway, it wasn't that sharp a gradient. Around Barrie ON there is often a very sharp gradient, when I lived in that area in 1973-76 I got used to driving in and out of walls of S+ conditions with bright sunshine in between the bands. The ideal snow location in that region would be Midland on Georgian Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Wow, some of these snow totals and pictures are incredible. Simply amazing what the atmosphere can do in the right conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 That band over S Buffalo is amazingly stationary. God.... enjoy that 6 foot storm. Could this beat 2001? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Picking up a 40 dbz pixel near W Seneca on the latest reflectivity scan, there is going to be some incredible pictures out of there when this thing is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Alden NY has reported 48" in 24 hours in a recent Public Information Statement. ..ERIE COUNTY ALDEN 48.0 1100 AM 11/18 AMATEUR RADIO LANCASTER 48.0 1015 AM 11/18 AMATEUR RADIO 1 S EAST LANCASTER 42.0 1000 AM 11/18 NEAR COMO PARK ELMA 37.2 820 AM 11/18 COCORAHS 1 E EAST LANCASTER 37.0 1040 AM 11/18 SOCIAL MEDIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Some (or many?) of those pics in the upstate NY thread almost don't look real. Absolutely amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 That photo of the LES wall in this thread is absolutely classic. Should be saved for posterity along with some of the radar and snowfall images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 A couple of lightning strikes showing up on radar scope now. Although these may not be exact, radar estimating over 3" of liquid near West Seneca. I'd imagine ratios are around 20:1, so do the math Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 That band over S Buffalo is amazingly stationary. God.... enjoy that 6 foot storm. Could this beat 2001? It will yes. A seasoned Met from American is saying someone will have 100+ inches by Friday. Thing is...Kbuf has had 3.5 inches. So it won't count towards our numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 This snow weenie lives on the "north side of town". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 This snow weenie lives on the "north side of town". Thats me right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 This snow weenie lives on the "north side of town". haha that is awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 That's pretty amazing if that's the case. Maybe there are different perceptions between locals and outsiders but to any reasonable outsider, you're definitely part of the snow belt. If you live in a snowbelt... at least in ohio, there is the primary and secondary belt. His location is probably secondary in wny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 What's funny is that its sunny there too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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