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December 14th - Snow showers or Plowable snow?
8611Blizz replied to Sey-Mour Snow's topic in New England
Local mets are NOT impressed with this. Most mentioning using broom for your car on Sunday morning in Boston. -
There should be a little more after that. Still a few more frames of snow. Bncho jumped the gun a little
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December 14th - Snow showers or Plowable snow?
WinterWolf replied to Sey-Mour Snow's topic in New England
You f’n should be. You’re a beggar now…take what you can get..And appreciate. You at rock bottom bro..the last 3-4 yrs have taken you down to humble levels. -
Operational Gfs and 12z Euro sure give more hope than their ensembles.
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<<< HALL OF SHAME DECEMBER SNOWFALLS >>> (with rest of seasons) Winter ____ OCT _NOV _DEC _JAN _FEB _MAR _APR ___ TOTAL 1877-78 ___ 0.0 __ Tr ___ 0.0 __ 6.1 __ 2.0 __ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ _ 8.1 _ 1882-83 ___ 0.0 _14.0 ___ 0.0 __ 9.4 __10.2 _ 10.0 __0.5 _ _ 44.1 _ 1891-92 ___ 0.0 __ Tr ___ 0.0 __12.2 __ 0.1 __12.0 __ 1.0 _ _ 25.3 _ 2006-07 ___ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ 2.6 __ 3.8 __ 6.0 __ Tr _ _12.4 _ 2011-12 ___ 2.9 __ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ 4.3 __ 0.2 __ 0.0 __ 0.0 _ __ 7.4 _ 1885-86 ___ 0.0 __ Tr ___ Tr ___13.5 __ 5.3 __ 1,.0 __ 1.0 _ _ 20.8 _ 1888-89 ___ 0.0 __ 1.5 __ Tr ___ 4.0 __ 7.0 __ 4.0 __ 0.0 _ _ 16.5 _ 1895-96 ___ 0.0 __ Tr ___ Tr ___ 3.0 __ 9.5 __30.5 __3.0 _ _ 46.0 _ 1936-37 ___ Tr ___ 3.2 ___Tr ___ 6.5 __ 3.4 __ 2.5 __ Tr __ _ 15.6 _ 1943-44 ___ 0.0 __ Tr ___ Tr ___ 4.8 __ 7.7 __ 4.8 __ 6.5 _ _ 23.8 _ 1953-54 ___ 0.0 __ 2.2 __ Tr ___12.7 __ 0.5 __ 0.1 __ 0.3 __ _ 15.8 _ 1965-66 ___ Tr ___ 0.0 __ Tr __ 11.6 __ 9.8 __ Tr ___ 0.0 _ _ 21.4 _ 1971-72 ___ 0.0 ___ Tr ___ Tr ___2.8 _ 17.8 __ 2.3 __ Tr __ _ 22.9 _ 1972-73 ___ Tr ___ Tr ___ Tr ____ 1.8 __ 0.8 __ 0.2 __ Tr __ __2.8 _ 1994-95 ___ 0.0 __ Tr ___ Tr ___ 0.2 __11.6 __ Tr __ Tr ___ _ 11.8 _ 1996-97 ___ 0.0 __ 0.1 __ Tr ___ 4.4 __ 3.8 __ 1.7 __ Tr __ _ 10.0 _ 1997-98 ___ 0.0 __ Tr ___ Tr ___ 0.5 __ 0.0 __ 5.0 __ 0.0 _ __ 5.5 _ 1999-2000_ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ Tr ___ 9.5 __ 5.2 __ 0.4 __ 1.2 _ _ 16.3 _ 2001-02 ___ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ Tr ___ 3.5 ___Tr ___ Tr ___ Tr __ __ 3.5 _ 2015-16 ___ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ Tr ___27.9 __ 4.0 __0.9 __ Tr __ _ 32.8 _ 2018-19 ___ 0.0 __ 6.4 __ Tr ___ 1.1 ___ 2.6 _ 10.4 __ 0.0 _ _ 20.5 _ 2022-23 ___ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ Tr ___ Tr ___ 2.2 ___0.1 __ 0.0 _ _ 2.3 _ 2023-24 ___ 0.0 __ Tr ___ Tr ___ 2.3 __ 5.2 ___ Tr __ 0.0 _ _ 7.5 _ 1899-1900_ 0.0 __ Tr ___ 0.1 ___ 1.0 __ 6.6 __ 5.9 __ Tr __ _ 13.6 _ 1900-01 ___ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ 0.1 __ 2.0 __ 7.0 __ Tr ___ 0.0 _ __ 9.1 _ 1931-32 ___ 0.0 ___2.0 ___0.1 ___0.8 __ 1.8 __ 0.6 __ Tr _ __ 5.3 _ 1954-55 ___ 0.0 __ Tr ___ 0.1 ___ 2.6 __ 5.2 __ 3.6 _ 0.0 __ _11.5 _ 1974-75 ___ 0.0 __ 0.1 __ 0.1 __ 2.0 __10.6 __ 0.3 __ Tr ___ _ 13.1 _ 2021-22 ___ 0.0 __ 0.0 __0.2 __15.3 __ 2.0 __ 0.4 __ 0.0 _ _ 17.9 _ 1906-07 ___ 0.0 __ 1.0 __ 0.3 __11.0 _ 21.8 __13.3 __ 5.8 _ _ 53.2 _ 1913-14 ____0.0 __ Tr ___ 0.3 __ 1.3 __17.4 __21.5 __ Tr __ _ 40.5 _ 1918-19 ____0.0 __ 0.0 __ 0.3 __ 0.3 __ 0.5 __ 2.7 __ Tr __ __3.8 _ 1941-42 ___ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ 0.3 __ 6.4 __ 1.9 __ 0.5 __ 2.2 _ _ 11.3 _ 1988-89 ___ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ 0.3 __ 5.0 __ 0.3 __ 2.5 __0.0 _ __ 8.1 _ 1977-78 ___ 0.0 __ 0.2 __ 0.4__20.3 _23.0 __6.8 __ Tr __ _ 50.7 _ 1992-93 ___ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ 0.4 __ 1.5 _ 10.7 _11.9 __ 0.0 _ _ 24.5 _ 2012-13 ___ 0.0 __ 4.7 __ 0.4 __ 1.5 __12.2 __ 7.3 __ 0.0 _ _ 26.1 _ 1978-79 ___ 0.0 __ 2.2 __ 0.5 __ 6.6 _20.1 __ Tr ___ Tr ___ _ 29.4 _ 1986-87 ___ 0.0 __ Tr ___ 0.6 __13.6 __ 7.0 __ 1.9 __ 0.0 _ _ 23.1 _ 1937-38 ___ Tr ___ 0.8 __ 0.7 __ 6.5 __ Tr ___ 0.7 __ 6.4 __ _15.1 _ 1991-92 ___ 0.0 __ Tr ___ 0.7 __ 1.5 ___ 1.0 __ 9.4 __ Tr __ _ 12.6 _ 1956-57 ___ 0.0 __ Tr ___ 0.9 __ 8.9 __ 7.0 __ 2.6 __ 2.5 _ _ 21.9 _ 1985-86 ___ 0.0 __ Tr ___ 0.9 __ 2.2 __ 9.9 __ Tr ___ Tr __ _ 13.0 _ 1875-76 ___ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ 1.0 __ 1.5 __ 12.5 __ 3.8 __ 0.0 _ _ 18.8 _ 1905-06 ___ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ 1.0 __ 1.5 __ 6.0 __ 11.5 __ Tr _ _ 20.0 _ 1934-35 ___ Tr ___ Tr ____1.0 __23.6 __ 7.2 __ 2.0 __ Tr _ _ 33.8 _ 2014-15 ___ 0.0 __ 0.2 __ 1.0 __16.9 _ 13.6 _18.6 __ 0.0 _ _ 50.3 _ 1881-82 ___ 0.0 __ Tr ___ 1.3 __ 17.5 __ 9.3 __ 2.8 __ 0.5 _ _ 31.4 _ 1946-47 ___ 0.0 __ 0.0 ___1.3 __ 5.5 __ 17.7 __ 6.1 __ Tr __ _ 30.6 _ 1949-50 ___ 0.0 __ 0.5 __ 1.3 ___ 0.4 __ 8.5 __ 1.4 __ 1.9 __ _14.0 _ 1989-90 ___ 0.0 __ 4.7 __ 1.4 __ 1.8 __ 1.8 ___ 3.1 __ 0.6 _ _ 13.4 _ 1898-99 ___ 0.0 __19.0 __ 1.5 __ 5.3 __25.3 __4.8 __ 0.0 _ _ 55.9 _ __________________________ From this arbitrary cutoff at 1.5" for Dec snow, there are 52 (of 156) winter seasons where Dec snow is less than 1.5" and of those, 30 had no snow or a trace amount. A few of those cases had significant snow before December, notably 1882-83 and 1898-99. So there may have been snow on the ground for the first portion of some of these futile Decembers. A few were quite cold or even very cold (1989), so that small amounts of snow would have persisted longer. The interesting thing here is the frequency of snow-free Decembers (about one in five) and low-snowfall cases expanding that to one in three, so almost a normal feature of the climate. the Dec average snowfall is clearly influenced by a few heavy falls such as 1947, and the median is probably lower than the mean. Also interesting is a significant number of very good snowfall winters following on, such as 1898-1899, 2014-2015, 1977-1978, and 1913-14. The median seasonal snowfall after a hall of shame December is 16.0" which shows that a poor December is often an indicator of a poor winter, but there are plenty of exceptions to inspire some optimism.
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My south trend was sarcastic. I'm in Northern MD where I'm expecting 3 flurries tomorrow night lol
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Heartbreak Mo-del Runs .
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Minor snowfall sunday 12/14/25 1-4” possible
North and West replied to WeatherGeek2025's topic in New York City Metro
The spacing, graphics, and grammar on this site raise the rush of epileptic seizures. . -
December 14th - Snow showers or Plowable snow?
CoastalWx replied to Sey-Mour Snow's topic in New England
I mean for my area. Think I’m a little north of the good stuff. -
They can have it if I get it as depicted.
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December 2025 Short/Medium Range Forecast Thread
Carvers Gap replied to John1122's topic in Tennessee Valley
Well, it's Friday. Here is a bonus...Take a look at the run-to-run change when the slp (spinning endlessly off of Cali) doesn't feed back. Then take a look at the actually 500 map. There is the Alaska block, and the same persistent pattern(hard to break) that we have seen for a few weeks. The PNA flips positive. Should be a good run the rest of the way here in fantasy land. -
You know what? I wouldn't even care if they got more...it would be a frickin' White Christmas!!
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December 2025 regional war/obs/disco thread
WinterWolf replied to Torch Tiger's topic in New England
Muting as we thought…it’s the tenor this year so far. We take. -
South trolling will hereby met with north trolling so watch it brother!!!
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12/12: The little Friday clipper that could? Or won't.
Bob Chill replied to dailylurker's topic in Mid Atlantic
2 hours of flurries/lt snow but no accums. Was hoping to squeeze .2 to hit 7" for the month but the minor accum stuff ended up south of me by 20 miles. It was nice dendrites for a while so SnowTV looked pretty good for a bit -
Minor snowfall sunday 12/14/25 1-4” possible
RU848789 replied to WeatherGeek2025's topic in New York City Metro
On both NAMs, at least at the height of the storm for areas snowing decently, omega (lift) values are in the robust -10 to -15 ubar/sec in the saturated DGZ, so we should see good supersaturation occur and decent dendrite growth for ratios above 10:1. It's why my guesstimate is for ~4" at my house vs. the 3.3" forecast by the NWS. -
December 14th - Snow showers or Plowable snow?
Damage In Tolland replied to Sey-Mour Snow's topic in New England
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December 2025 regional war/obs/disco thread
weathafella replied to Torch Tiger's topic in New England
Actually it’s a 5 day anomaly so probably 34/20 right at the coast. -
Plenty of time for a south trend
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Saturday night/Sunday 12/13-12/14 Jawn
RedSky replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
DT is all in has the 4" line roughly through Sellersville -
Saturday night/Sunday 12/13-12/14 Jawn
coastal front replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
Hoping to avoid to much of a delayed start with the rain as well as getting into that quasi stationary band that some mesos have showed. Should be a decent storm forum wide for most to get on the board -
December 2025 Short/Medium Range Forecast Thread
Carvers Gap replied to John1122's topic in Tennessee Valley
I think what we are not used to is having a more than decent cold air source. 500 maps can get wonky and sometimes not represent the surface w/ these. When that happens, it is really important to look at surface pressure. The mechanism(on that run) is in place to send the TPV south. It just got hung up. Still, that is a good run at this range. Cheers. Maybe I will come back for 0z. -
December 14th - Snow showers or Plowable snow?
RUNNAWAYICEBERG replied to Sey-Mour Snow's topic in New England
Cross guidance improvement with a tick more kinked flow to our NE. Festive Sunday incoming… -
12/14: Sunday funday? Will the south win again?
Kevin Reilly replied to TSSN+'s topic in Mid Atlantic
Clipper energy transfer to the coast lift convergence northwest of the developing low then rapidly pull away to the east-northeast. Where the Convergence sets up before collapsing southeast and east will be the areas that get a quick 4-5”. -
December 2025 Short/Medium Range Forecast Thread
Carvers Gap replied to John1122's topic in Tennessee Valley
That is just a timing issue or that is a huge winter storm. As is, it is CAD city and Virginia gets hammered. The surface high slides a little bit too far ahead. If this were to get over the top, slider city. Very, very close. And just amazing given the torch that has been shown for days for Christmas. This is the GFS' second run w/ Christmas cold. Let's see if it can hold and get this inside of ten days.
