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ASOS not so good here (see news clip below). And the statement it is considered ok as long as it is +- 2 F from actual temp? So given 2 F whole deg error, how is it proper accuracy calculating a monthly mean temp out to a tenth of a degree? You are over an order of magnitude off given the overall temp sensor's accuracy and not following significant digit rules. Also, ASOS first and foremost job is to aviation, so temp takes a back seat. A documented case, not unique, is Reno NV touted as the fastest warming city in the U.S. Not true, b/c the ASOS placement has been checked as too warm from adjacent infrastructure. The NWS wanted to move it to a better location at the airport, but the FAA said no. EWR had a big problem several years ago that existed for some time. It would always come in around 2 F warmer every month compared to NYC/LGA/JFK/BDR/ISP. Not sure if it still exists, but this is a first-order climate site and GHCN site. And AWOS?, they make up the bulk of the hourly observations we see at airports now, and they have worse issues that ASOS. They are notorious bad for dew points. esp when high. So it is more than just the sensor accuracy/calibration themselves, ASOS/AWOS primary purpose is not meant for climate records. Is this not of significant concern? This data is used for make many, many decisions, big and small. Site that are good? Mesonet sites, like the one OK has had for over 30 years. Those are sited properly and are geared for climate data.
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Central PA Spring 2026 Discussion/Obs Thread
Yardstickgozinya replied to Voyager's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
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Large hail here accumulating on the grass.
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Day 1 of the real pollening. The haze is likely to get quite a bit worse with no rain in sight.
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MikeB_01 started following Pittsburgh Spring 2026
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3.5” of waterlogged snow. Can squeeze water out of it.
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Even if there was a huge heat spike in 1879 it's always about longevity. How long did that type of heat last in 1879. Today's heat is a combo of extreme highs + longevity. Nothing in recorded history comes close
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Got home to 3.5” of waterlogged snow.
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Central PA Spring 2026 Discussion/Obs Thread
mahantango#1 replied to Voyager's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
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This was our first truly warm system of the season. Only a half inch overnight last night with the rest being rain. Saw it coming.
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Central PA Spring 2026 Discussion/Obs Thread
Voyager replied to Voyager's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
AccuWeather future radar indicates a potentially busy next couple hours here in Tamaqua. I just hope the hail stays away. Back in May 2011, we had a prolific hailstorm the ruined the Dodge Stratus I owned at the time. The pic is one of the hailstones I picked up in our backyard from that storm. -
Central PA Spring 2026 Discussion/Obs Thread
Yardstickgozinya replied to Voyager's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
https://www.youtube.com/live/ydEenO_UG5A?si=JKjNbfU132g1fkL_ If everything's working properly, this should be a link to my live stream. This is the first time i've ever done this . This is a test. I'm actually walking to a area where I hopefully can get some decent views to my west and north. I doready to pick me up. Anyways, if somebody would please stop by and let me know that everything's working properly, that would be fantastic. Walking through Fairview township at the moment feel free to stop by anytime. Thank you so much. I will be interacting very little if at all. , I have a lot of other things to pay attention to at the moment. Live stream should be up in just a minute or two -
Plenty of snow on that side these days. Snowmaking upgrades plus boyne budget has made a big difference. Rumor has it will be open 7 days a week next season.
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I’d gladly take the 4-7” rain side NJ always seems to get vs a few showers here.
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70°F in my neighborhood by the water. Feels amazing out
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It’s 20-30 miles either side of 90
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90F. In March. WTF.
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You might be too far south.
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It's time to move on from winter. It was a good one, but Spring is here.
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Low of 35 this morning
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I haven’t wavered . I should get to 70”
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Bad water break in Lewiston, you ok Dryslot? Looks downtown.
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Beer?
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5.0” so far.
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It’s been there the whole time if folks knew what to look for .
