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November 2025 general discussions and probable topic derailings ...


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1 minute ago, Brewbeer said:

we are polluting the atmosphere we all rely on for life, I imagine that makes all of us somewhat uncomfortable, to some degree 

Don't know your age but you ain't seen water and air pollution unless you lived in the 60s. Awful air and water 

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15 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Please this is exactly what I am talking about. What an asshole

The truth hurts, Steve? 

I didn't say anything untrue 

There's nothing elitist about subject matter that you either don't understand, or just don't believe in.  Either way... .  You've always been a truculent insufferable blue collar nimrod with clear resentment issues over your station, who's also routinely lied about your env sci creds over the years - made patently obvious whenever you type - and then hide over the internet when being disrespectful.  If someone has clad argument other than abstinence, I'm sure the consensus here will be glad to engage with them.  You you and him ...and people like you are on the wrong side of history and truth.   

How's that for elitist - eat shit. 

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9 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Its more the condescending elitist manner that defines some here. Fucking science constantly evolves what we think to be true scientifically sometimes isn't.  I know the earth is warming but there's always the yin and yang theorem. It would be nice to read more discussions rather than I know all because I am scientist. Its what went wrong in America.Ya know some of us deplorables can think rationaly 

 

7 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

What is your reticence in accepting this very simple, objectively real fact that anthropomorphic C02 forcing is causing an acceleration of warming?  

You either lack the mental capacity, or you are fucking with us...either way, this grows tiresome and in fact - it matters that it is growing tiresome, because people like you, not respecting the peril the world is facing, are making if happen. 

I'll explain this once in simple words:  Yes, obvious record reveal that climate varies naturally over a wide range of time scales, but never as fast as since the Industrial Revolution, and as others have directly describe in no uncertain terms, this has been verified by atmospheric chemistry to be 1:1 correlated to  C02 surplus that cannot be explained as originating from any other source.

Moreover, there, "normal variability"  ( to which you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground frankly because you have no accredidation to demonstrate otherwise ) cannot explain the observed warming since the 1950s - until the C02 humanity is responsible for is factored.  Hook line and sinker.  Case close.  It is therefore among the most extremely likely scenarios known to statistical math, > 95%, that human C02 ( and actually there are also industrial out-gassing that contribute, btw) the dominant cause of that warming.

There is no other cause.   Global Warming is happening because of anthropomorphic forcing.   

The beauty of all this is that it is true whether you believe it or not.  

Daniel Defoes situational observation, made over 300 years ago, seems well suited for the present condition. As always …..

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23 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

It would be nice to read more discussions rather than I know all because I am scientist. Its what went wrong in America.

my perspective is somewhat different, it seems to me that "what went wrong in America" is too many Americans have rejected science and stopped believing scientists in the last 30 years, which is odd, since the scientists today know so much more than what was known 30 years ago

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6 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

The truth hurts, Steve? 

I didn't say anything untrue 

Maybe but all the condescending bullshit added. You have been  doomsdayer for the 20 years I have known you. You are an extremely likeable person in person but you don't post like you speak. By the way an amazing stat.The world has had an incredible reduction in climate caused deaths. The agricultural boom is allowing more people to thrive, more Co2 more agriculture. There are positives and we as humans adapt quickly. I have zero sympathy for people who bult on swamps barrier beaches.  The world isn't ending we are evolving with it.

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5 minutes ago, Brewbeer said:

my perspective is somewhat different, it seems to me that "what went wrong in America" is too many Americans have rejected science and stopped believing scientists in the last 30 years, which is odd, since the scientists today know so much more than what was known 30 years ago

Because every scientist doesn't agree with all of the climate disaster group think? Many many very well educated scientists have don't agree with current media driven group think.

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23 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Don't know your age but you ain't seen water and air pollution unless you lived in the 60s. Awful air and water 

And the Clean Air and Water Act amendment of 1970 did a lot to fix it.  Why not keep going though?

It’s sad, but there is no way that Act passes in the United States today.

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27 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

There are positives and we as humans adapt quickly. The world isn't ending we are evolving with it.

This probably sums up most of it… I still think the whole issue isn’t about people believing the earth is warming or not (again, not talking causality).  I don’t think it’s as much not believing science either.

Hysteria, doom, and trying to change people’s behaviors are when the plot was lost.  I bet most of the US would be in agreement if it weren’t for those few factors added to the discourse.

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1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said:

So parts ppm got it. Hey maybe look elsewhere as well before putting all your chicken eggs in the basket. Why does it have to be one thing. Underwater volcanoes, the sun output, water vapor affects on night time lows etc. We can discuss rationaly. Not laugh or demean (Scooter)

By the way finishing construction of new coop and connected hoop coop. Getting there new solar auto door light sensitive or programmed. 

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I don’t insult anyone. 

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2 hours ago, Typhoon Tip said:

What is your reticence in accepting this very simple, objectively real fact that anthropomorphic C02 forcing is causing an acceleration of warming?  

You either lack the mental capacity, or you are fucking with us...either way, this grows tiresome and in fact - it matters that it is growing tiresome, because people like you, not respecting the peril the world is facing, are ultimately a detriment to finding a salvation from and panacea for this crisis. 

I'll explain this once in simple words:  Yes, obvious records reveal that climate varies naturally over a wide range of time scales, but never as fast as since the Industrial Revolution. And as others have directly described in no uncertain terms, this has been verified by atmospheric chemistry to be 1:1 correlated to  C02 surplus that cannot be explained as originating from any other source.  

Moreover, "normal variability"  ( to which you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground frankly because you have no accredidation to demonstrate otherwise ) cannot explain the observed warming since the 1950s - until the C02 humanity is responsible for is factored.  Hook line and sinker.  It is therefore among the most extremely likely scenarios known to statistical math, > 95%, that human C02 ( and actually there are also other industrial out-gassing that contribute, btw) is the cause of that warming.

There is no other cause.   Global Warming is happening because of anthropomorphic forcing.   

The beauty of all this is that it is true whether you believe it or not.  

Are you F’n serious John?  You come across like a total asswipe on here to be honest!  Your diatribes are barely understandable…with your various monster words, that nobody understands.  And you’re going to insult me, and say I don’t know my ass from a hole in the ground?  You’re Laughable bro. 
 

You’re a doomsday proclaimer, that is not connected to reality one bit.  You are exactly what’s wrong with CC.  People like you, and silly Bill Gates, and that fool Al Gore, and the other moron John Carey…are complete BS artists.  The only difference is that you seem to buy into the ridiculous doomsday CRAP!  How stupid can somebody be?  Oh wait…I guess that’s what somebody who doesn’t know their ass from a hole in the ground believes. 

You are LAUGHABLE. 

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13 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Are you F’n serious John?  You come across like a total asswipe on here to be honest!  Your diatribes are barely understandable…with your various monster words, that nobody understands.  And you’re going to insult me, and say I don’t know my ass from a hole in the ground?  You’re Laughable bro. 
 

You’re a doomsday proclaimer, that is not connected to reality one bit.  You are exactly what’s wrong with CC.  People like you, and silly Bill Gates, and that fool Al Gore, and the other moron John Carey…are complete BS artists.  The only difference is that you seem to buy into the ridiculous doomsday CRAP!  How stupid can somebody be?  Oh wait…I guess that’s what somebody who doesn’t know their ass from a hole in the ground believes. 

You are LAUGHABLE. 

And you’re an ignoramus

worse yet you’re an ignoramus masquerading as righteousness when you’re not fucking right about anything.  you’re completely in the wrong on this and your abstinence in even trying to understand global warming is what’s actually reprehensible.

And I’m through with it. I’m sick of it. I’m tired of you and people like you and it’s time to pull you guys and make an example  

I don’t care what you think of me for having said this; the truth needs to be said

You and people like you are a problem for humanity. you’ve been told in flat undeniable logic, and you still can’t penetrate your mind

Don’t respond to me ever again put me on ignore and just shut the fuck up you ignorant asshole

 

 

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1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said:

And you’re an ignoramus

No, but you must be.  
 

I did not insult you one bit. But you insulted me. Just because I don’t believe what you do.  And that’s the whole point here.  When somebody pushes back against a science that keeps changing every 5-10 yrs, then I guess we need to be insulted. And told we don’t know our asses from a hole in the ground.  Cuz some of us don’t buy in to everything that is supposedly mainstream. 
 

Or we are told that we don’t understand…

All I asked was to take this to the proper thread.  But here we are.  

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