July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability

[bluewave]

18 minutes ago, Sundog said:

I went to Lake Placid during the first week of August 2004. My first day there was a regular weather day, I went in the pool and thebhigh was around 80 degrees. 

Then the hammer dropped and the following days lows were in the 40s and even one day in the 30s(!) with highs in the low 60sband with the one day staying in the 50s! And it was a crisp cool 50s, not because of rain or something. Walking around town and smelling the wood burning and browsing the Christmas store it truly felt like late November. 

Yeah, 2004 was the last time Lake Placid reached 35° in August. The 2020s is the first decade so far with no August lows in the 30s there. You knew 76-77 was going to be a historic winter for cold when they made it down to 27° in August 76°.
 

 

 

[steve392]

Raining again.  Looks to be back filling in over pa.  Training??

[Brian5671]

34 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Huge PWAT/remnants of Chantal etc pattern-big meh for 95% of us and split screwed. But watch a random warm frontal boundary next month dump 12” for a whole swath of the area. 

Yep about a quarter inch of rain here for the event.  The Chantal part busted-the remnants went OTS well to our S and E.     Never buy into these big weeklong rain events in July

[Brian5671]

11 minutes ago, steve392 said:

Raining again.  Looks to be back filling in over pa.  Training??

HRRR shuts it all down in a couple of hrs-then just cloudy and humid rest of day

[SACRUS]

 

 

71 / 69 cloudy.  Clouds today break the heatwave keeping it in 80s / 70s.   Clouds linger into Friday with front slow as molasses clearing the coast and the W. Atlantic Ridge anchored off shore.  The weekend looks to be mainly dry with warm/humid mainly 80s with some of the hotter and sunnieest locations maybe touching 90 on Sat, but very limited.  Hotter by Tue/Wed next week / mid month.   Overall higher heights routinely expanding W/ Atlantic Ridge and western heat flowing / expanding and building north and east.

 

7/10 - 7/11 :   Storms / clouds cooler
7/12 - 7/14 :  Warm/humid limited 90s 
7/15 - beyond  :  Hotter overall

 

[FPizz]

2 hours ago, winterwarlock said:

.32 in my area unimpressive 

Crazy, 1.18" here.  Had some heavy rain and thunder in the middle of the night with a cell

[cleetussnow]

13 hours ago, Dark Star said:

Exactly.  The problem is that utilities are protected, because we need water and electricity to meet our basic needs.  These utilities are "regulated", in other words protected, to insure there will always be enough supply for our demand.  Therefore, capitalism cannot be counted on to keep costs down, since they are exempt from competition.  So, a power company has to pay for their overhead, and are guaranteed to make a profit.  Every time we buy a more energy efficient refrigerator, HVAC, washer and dryer and utilize led lights, the rates must increase to offset losses in revenue.  Sort of counter intuitive.  Doesn't matter if the energy sources are renewable or not. The only way to beat the system is to totally go off the grid, which I don't think is possible yet, unless you own a ranch with enough space to supply enough wind, solar and geothermal power and store it?

I buy stocks in companies I use a lot to sort of pay myself back. Its never enough to cover what I spend, so the dividends are like a small rebate.  But its something.  We can choose who our energy suppliers are, but not the transmission part, and thats where we get hosed.

[SACRUS]

 

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 105 (1993)
NYC: 102 (1993)
LGA: 99 (1993)
JFK: 100 (1993)
New Brnswck: 103 (1936)


Lows:

EWR: 58 (2009)
NYC: 55 (1890)
LGA: 60 (1953)
JFK: 58 (2009)
New Brnswck: 49 (1894)


Historical:

 

1776: A strong gale played a role in a battle between the Royal Governor of Virginia, Dunmore, and General Lewis of the rebel forces. The royal fleet had been injured prior to the storm by General Lewis' forces and was sailing from Gwynn's Island toward St. George's Island, in the Potomac. The British crew was without water and enduring smallpox when the gale struck. A flour-laden supply ship ran aground. One ships foundered at the Mouth of the Rappahannock, while another was stranded on the Eastern shore (Shomette). The H.M.S. Otter, the Governor's ship, was rescuing another ship in distress. They were rescued just in time. After loading the distressed ship's cargo, the ship sunk. The governor later left Virginia for good on August 5th. Many ships in the area suffered damage to their rigging, sails, and anchors. Two vessels were driven ashore in St. Mary's county (Shomette).  (Ref. Hurricane of 1776)
 

1911: The mercury hit 105 degrees at North Bridgton, Maine the hottest reading of record for Maine. North Bridgton also reached 105 degrees on the 4th of July in 1911.

1913 - The mercury hit 134 degrees at Greenland Ranch in Death Valley, CA, the hottest reading of record for the North American continent. Sandstorm conditions accompanied the heat. The high the previous day was 129 degrees, following a morning low of 93 degrees. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1926 - A lightning bolt struck an ammunition magazine in northern New Jersey, and a big red ball of fire leaped into the air triggering a series of explosions. All buildings within a half mile radius were destroyed, and debris fell as far as twenty-two miles away. Sixteen persons were killed, and property damage was seventy million dollars. (David Ludlum)

1936 - Afternoon highs of 112 degrees at Martinsburg, WV, 109 degrees at Cumberland, MD, and Frederick, MD, 110 degrees at Runyon, NJ, and 111 degrees at Phoenixville, PA, established all-time record highs for those four states. It was the hottest day of record for the Middle Atlantic Coast Region. (The Weather Channel)

 

1955: On July 10th Boston had severe thunderstorms producing the highest 1 hour precipitation total of 2.10 inches. (Ref. NOAA Boston Weather Events)

1959: Yuma, AZ reached 118°, the hottest reading during an extended heat wave that saw temperatures rise to over 100° for an entire month. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1974: Central Ohio--One person was killed and another injured by a lightning strike on a golf course in Morrow County.
Tequesta, Palm Beach County, Fla.--Two employees of the Tequesta Water Company were struck by lightning while working on a water meter at a private residence. One was killed and the other knocked unconscious. Western Pennsylvania--One man was killed by lightning while cleaning up mud on a road; another died of a heart attack.(Ref. Lightning-The Underrated Killer.pdf)

1975: Manassas, VA a nine-year-old girl playing under a tree is struck and killed by lightning. (Ref. Lightning - Virginia Weather History)


1975: Baltimore, MD picked up 4.66 inches of rain in 24 hours.
 

1979 - The temperature at El Paso, TX, hit 112 degrees, an all-time record for that location. The next day was 110 degrees. (The Weather Channel)

1980 - The temperature in downtown Kansas City, MO, hit 109 degrees, following a sultry overnight low of 89 degrees. The daily low of 89 degrees was the warmest of record for Kansas City, and overall it was the hottest July day of record. It was the seventh of a record seventeen consecutive days of 100 degree heat, and the mean temperature for the month of 90.2 degrees was also an all-time record for Kansas City.


1984: An F2 tornado touched down in the Dellwood subdivision along Castle Rock Lake, WI. A total of 59 homes were hit and 14 were destroyed. More than 2,000 trees were downed. Winds from the accompanying thunderstorm also flattened a potato warehouse 12 miles north of Friendship. An F1 tornado touched down south of Decorah, IA and wrought significant damage to more than one farmstead. The storm turned a 40,000 bushel grain bin inside out and wrapped it around a chicken house. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)
 

1987 - An early morning thunderstorm in Minnesota produced wind gusts to 91 mph at Waseca. Later that day, thunderstorms in South Dakota produced wind gusts to 81 mph at Ipswitch, and baseball size hail near Hayes and Capa. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Thunderstorms brought welcome rains to parts of the central U.S., but produced severe weather along the New England coast, in the Great Lakes Region, in North Carolina, and in the Southern Plateau Region. Strong thunderstorm winds gusting to 80 mph at Bullfrog, UT, sank three boats on Lake Powell. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Severe thunderstorms spawned seventeen tornadoes in the northeastern U.S. A powerful (F-4) tornado struck Hamden CT and New Haven, CT, causing 100 million dollars damage at Hamden, and another 20 million dollars damage around New Haven. Forty persons were injured in the tornado. Seventy persons were injured in a tornado which traveled from Watertown, CT, to Waterbury, CT, and another powerful (F-4) tornado touched down near Ames NY injuring twenty persons along its 43.5 mile track. It was the strongest tornado of record for eastern New York State. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)


1993: Seven inches of rain fell in one hour at Adrian, MN. During normal summers, such incredible downpours might cause flash flooding, but not widespread river flooding. But during the spring and summer of 1993, such events were commonplace and the resulting flooding was catastrophic.

1993: more record heat occurred across the east. Record highs included: Newark, NJ: 105°, NYC-Central Park, NY: 102°, Atlantic City, NY: 101°, NYC-Kennedy, NY: 100°, Providence, RI: 100°, Wilmington, NC: 100°, NYC-LaGuardia, NY: 99°, Dulles Airport, VA: 99°, Raleigh, NC: 99°, Portland, ME: 98°, Concord, NH: 98° and Islip, NY: 98°. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2000: Thunderstorms brought heavy rain and strong winds to northeast Illinois, during the early morning hours. Flash flooding occurred in parts of La Salle, De Kalb, Kendall and Kankakee Counties, where rainfall of 4 to 7 inches was reported. Nearly 15,000 people were without power for 12 hours. Flooding ripped up 50 feet of pavement in downtown Kankakee. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2004: Kodiak, Alaska: The daily high ties the highest July temperature for Kodiak: 82°F. (Ref. WxDoctor)

2005: Although Dennis re-intensified into a Category 4 hurricane with winds of 145 mph early on July 10 over the eastern Gulf of Mexico, it weakened to Category 3 strength before making landfall over the western Florida Panhandle near Navarre Beach late that day. Dennis degenerated to a low pressure area over the Tennessee and Ohio Valleys, and it was eventually absorbed by an extratropical low over southeastern Canada on July 18. Dennis' Storm Track and other info.- NOAA.Gov.-N.H.C.

2005 - Hurricane Dennis landed near Pensacola, Florida as a category 3 storm. Maximum sustained winds at the time of landfall were near 120 mph. There were nine hurricane-related fatalities in the U.S. and preliminary estimates of insured losses ranged from $1 to $1.5 billion.

2009: More like a sizzling hot day in a desert location, instead of NW OK. Nonetheless, with highs of 115 degrees, Freedom broke its all-time record. On this record-setting day, Buffalo heated to 90 degrees by 6:00 a.m. and 107 by 11:00 a.m. (Weather Guide Calendar with Phenomenal Weather Events 2011 Accord Pub. 2010, USA)

[SACRUS]

 

 

Overall hot/humid  trough back into the MW/GL  with W/ Atlantic Ridge pumping heights along the EC.  Euro similar

[SACRUS]

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

I remember all the tropical systems that summer and the great waves. It was the last time we had a record breaking snowy winter with under 10 days reaching 90° at the warmest spots like EWR.

2004 was also impressive with that cool summer following the great snows and the record cold in January. 2009 was the last time with under 15 days reaching 90° and an above average snowy season and near 0° in January.

The there was the amazing Arctic outbreak in January 1985 and that cool summer. Also 1982 with the cool summer following the greatest April blizzard in over 100 years. We can add 1956 to the list for the great snowstorms in March.

If you notice we used to get these very cool summers right around the ones which were the warmest in those eras,  Such as 1956 after the 1955 summer. And 1967 following the summer of 1966. Then the 1982 summer right before the 1983 heat. Plus 1996 after the 1993 to 1995 summers with the heat index near 130°.

We also had the cooler 2004 summer between the warmth in 2002 and 2005. Then our warmest summer on record in 2010 after the cool 2009 summer.

So all we get these days is the summer heat like 2022 with nearly 50 days reaching 90  and an average summer like in 2023 with closer to 30 days.  But not another cool one like in 2009. So we lost a whole category of cool summers since the big step up in summer temperatures in 2010.
 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Jan through Dec Lowest Number of 90° days
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1	1967	7	0
2	1996	9	0
3	1985	11	0
4	1982	12	0
-	1975	12	0
-	1946	12	0
5	2004	13	0
6	2009	14	0
-	1962	14	0
-	1956	14	0
-	1935	14	0

 

2014 / 2017 also just below this list other sites had single digit 90 degrees days those years.

[bluewave]

39 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

2014 / 2017 also just below this list other sites had single digit 90 degrees days those years.

NJ was significantly warmer in 2014 than NYC and Long Island. Some spots approached 30 days reaching 90°. Plus we had 100° heat in June 2017 and numerous spots with 20+ days reaching 90.

 

Data for January 1, 2014 through December 31, 2014 Days With 90°
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SOMERDALE 4 SW	COOP	29
POTTERSVILLE 2 NNW	COOP	28
HIGHTSTOWN 2 W	COOP	27
WRIGHTSTOWN	COOP	26
TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	23
FREEHOLD-MARLBORO	COOP	19
New Brunswick Area	ThreadEx	17
NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE	COOP	17
HARRISON	COOP	16
Newark Area	ThreadEx	15
TETERBORO AIRPORT	COOP	15
NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	15

 

Monthly Data for June 2017 for Upton NY NWS CWA Monthly High Temperature 
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NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	101
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	99
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	98
NJ	HARRISON	COOP	98
NJ	CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP	WBAN	98

 

Data for January 1, 2017 through December 31, 2017 Days with 90°
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WRIGHTSTOWN	COOP	33
HIGHTSTOWN 2 W	COOP	26
CANOE BROOK	COOP	25
TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	24
FREEHOLD-MARLBORO	COOP	24
HARRISON	COOP	23
NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	22
TETERBORO AIRPORT	COOP	22
Newark Area	ThreadEx	22
HAMMONTON 1 NE	COOP	22
New Brunswick Area	ThreadEx	20
NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE	COOP	20

[TheClimateChanger]

38 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 105 (1993)
NYC: 102 (1993)
LGA: 99 (1993)
JFK: 100 (1993)
New Brnswck: 103 (1936)


Lows:

EWR: 58 (2009)
NYC: 55 (1890)
LGA: 60 (1953)
JFK: 58 (2009)
New Brnswck: 49 (1894)


Historical:

 

1776: A strong gale played a role in a battle between the Royal Governor of Virginia, Dunmore, and General Lewis of the rebel forces. The royal fleet had been injured prior to the storm by General Lewis' forces and was sailing from Gwynn's Island toward St. George's Island, in the Potomac. The British crew was without water and enduring smallpox when the gale struck. A flour-laden supply ship ran aground. One ships foundered at the Mouth of the Rappahannock, while another was stranded on the Eastern shore (Shomette). The H.M.S. Otter, the Governor's ship, was rescuing another ship in distress. They were rescued just in time. After loading the distressed ship's cargo, the ship sunk. The governor later left Virginia for good on August 5th. Many ships in the area suffered damage to their rigging, sails, and anchors. Two vessels were driven ashore in St. Mary's county (Shomette).  (Ref. Hurricane of 1776)
 

1911: The mercury hit 105 degrees at North Bridgton, Maine the hottest reading of record for Maine. North Bridgton also reached 105 degrees on the 4th of July in 1911.

1913 - The mercury hit 134 degrees at Greenland Ranch in Death Valley, CA, the hottest reading of record for the North American continent. Sandstorm conditions accompanied the heat. The high the previous day was 129 degrees, following a morning low of 93 degrees. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1926 - A lightning bolt struck an ammunition magazine in northern New Jersey, and a big red ball of fire leaped into the air triggering a series of explosions. All buildings within a half mile radius were destroyed, and debris fell as far as twenty-two miles away. Sixteen persons were killed, and property damage was seventy million dollars. (David Ludlum)

1936 - Afternoon highs of 112 degrees at Martinsburg, WV, 109 degrees at Cumberland, MD, and Frederick, MD, 110 degrees at Runyon, NJ, and 111 degrees at Phoenixville, PA, established all-time record highs for those four states. It was the hottest day of record for the Middle Atlantic Coast Region. (The Weather Channel)

 

1955: On July 10th Boston had severe thunderstorms producing the highest 1 hour precipitation total of 2.10 inches. (Ref. NOAA Boston Weather Events)

1959: Yuma, AZ reached 118°, the hottest reading during an extended heat wave that saw temperatures rise to over 100° for an entire month. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1974: Central Ohio--One person was killed and another injured by a lightning strike on a golf course in Morrow County.
Tequesta, Palm Beach County, Fla.--Two employees of the Tequesta Water Company were struck by lightning while working on a water meter at a private residence. One was killed and the other knocked unconscious. Western Pennsylvania--One man was killed by lightning while cleaning up mud on a road; another died of a heart attack.(Ref. Lightning-The Underrated Killer.pdf)

1975: Manassas, VA a nine-year-old girl playing under a tree is struck and killed by lightning. (Ref. Lightning - Virginia Weather History)


1975: Baltimore, MD picked up 4.66 inches of rain in 24 hours.
 

1979 - The temperature at El Paso, TX, hit 112 degrees, an all-time record for that location. The next day was 110 degrees. (The Weather Channel)

1980 - The temperature in downtown Kansas City, MO, hit 109 degrees, following a sultry overnight low of 89 degrees. The daily low of 89 degrees was the warmest of record for Kansas City, and overall it was the hottest July day of record. It was the seventh of a record seventeen consecutive days of 100 degree heat, and the mean temperature for the month of 90.2 degrees was also an all-time record for Kansas City.


1984: An F2 tornado touched down in the Dellwood subdivision along Castle Rock Lake, WI. A total of 59 homes were hit and 14 were destroyed. More than 2,000 trees were downed. Winds from the accompanying thunderstorm also flattened a potato warehouse 12 miles north of Friendship. An F1 tornado touched down south of Decorah, IA and wrought significant damage to more than one farmstead. The storm turned a 40,000 bushel grain bin inside out and wrapped it around a chicken house. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)
 

1987 - An early morning thunderstorm in Minnesota produced wind gusts to 91 mph at Waseca. Later that day, thunderstorms in South Dakota produced wind gusts to 81 mph at Ipswitch, and baseball size hail near Hayes and Capa. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Thunderstorms brought welcome rains to parts of the central U.S., but produced severe weather along the New England coast, in the Great Lakes Region, in North Carolina, and in the Southern Plateau Region. Strong thunderstorm winds gusting to 80 mph at Bullfrog, UT, sank three boats on Lake Powell. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Severe thunderstorms spawned seventeen tornadoes in the northeastern U.S. A powerful (F-4) tornado struck Hamden CT and New Haven, CT, causing 100 million dollars damage at Hamden, and another 20 million dollars damage around New Haven. Forty persons were injured in the tornado. Seventy persons were injured in a tornado which traveled from Watertown, CT, to Waterbury, CT, and another powerful (F-4) tornado touched down near Ames NY injuring twenty persons along its 43.5 mile track. It was the strongest tornado of record for eastern New York State. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)


1993: Seven inches of rain fell in one hour at Adrian, MN. During normal summers, such incredible downpours might cause flash flooding, but not widespread river flooding. But during the spring and summer of 1993, such events were commonplace and the resulting flooding was catastrophic.

1993: more record heat occurred across the east. Record highs included: Newark, NJ: 105°, NYC-Central Park, NY: 102°, Atlantic City, NY: 101°, NYC-Kennedy, NY: 100°, Providence, RI: 100°, Wilmington, NC: 100°, NYC-LaGuardia, NY: 99°, Dulles Airport, VA: 99°, Raleigh, NC: 99°, Portland, ME: 98°, Concord, NH: 98° and Islip, NY: 98°. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2000: Thunderstorms brought heavy rain and strong winds to northeast Illinois, during the early morning hours. Flash flooding occurred in parts of La Salle, De Kalb, Kendall and Kankakee Counties, where rainfall of 4 to 7 inches was reported. Nearly 15,000 people were without power for 12 hours. Flooding ripped up 50 feet of pavement in downtown Kankakee. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2004: Kodiak, Alaska: The daily high ties the highest July temperature for Kodiak: 82°F. (Ref. WxDoctor)

2005: Although Dennis re-intensified into a Category 4 hurricane with winds of 145 mph early on July 10 over the eastern Gulf of Mexico, it weakened to Category 3 strength before making landfall over the western Florida Panhandle near Navarre Beach late that day. Dennis degenerated to a low pressure area over the Tennessee and Ohio Valleys, and it was eventually absorbed by an extratropical low over southeastern Canada on July 18. Dennis' Storm Track and other info.- NOAA.Gov.-N.H.C.

2005 - Hurricane Dennis landed near Pensacola, Florida as a category 3 storm. Maximum sustained winds at the time of landfall were near 120 mph. There were nine hurricane-related fatalities in the U.S. and preliminary estimates of insured losses ranged from $1 to $1.5 billion.

2009: More like a sizzling hot day in a desert location, instead of NW OK. Nonetheless, with highs of 115 degrees, Freedom broke its all-time record. On this record-setting day, Buffalo heated to 90 degrees by 6:00 a.m. and 107 by 11:00 a.m. (Weather Guide Calendar with Phenomenal Weather Events 2011 Accord Pub. 2010, USA)

112F in Martinsburg, yeah, I don't believe that. It was 103F in Hagerstown and 105F in Kearneysville on the same date, right next door. Hot day, but it's not 7-9F hotter in Martinsburg than neighboring towns. More bogus nonsense, so we can hear how it was so much hotter in the past and climate change is a hoax.

[TheClimateChanger]

9 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

112F in Martinsburg, yeah, I don't believe that. It was 103F in Hagerstown and 105F in Kearneysville on the same date, right next door. Hot day, but it's not 7-9F hotter in Martinsburg than neighboring towns. More bogus nonsense, so we can hear how it was so much hotter in the past and climate change is a hoax.

You just know that user @FPizz is going to chime in with a poo emoji, and there it is! I post a very reasonable critique of a clearly bogus reading, and that's the response. I see him typing something else up, wonder what it could be?

It's like an IQ test. Anyone with any knowledge of meteorology/weather knows such variance is implausible/impossible, so you have to either willfully pretend its plausible despite the physical impossibility or, well you know...

[SACRUS]

33 minutes ago, bluewave said:

NJ was significantly warmer in 2014 than NYC and Long Island. Some spots approached 30 days reaching 90°. Plus we had 100° heat in June 2017 and numerous spots with 20+ days reaching 90.

 

Data for January 1, 2014 through December 31, 2014 Days With 90°
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SOMERDALE 4 SW	COOP	29
POTTERSVILLE 2 NNW	COOP	28
HIGHTSTOWN 2 W	COOP	27
WRIGHTSTOWN	COOP	26
TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	23
FREEHOLD-MARLBORO	COOP	19
New Brunswick Area	ThreadEx	17
NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE	COOP	17
HARRISON	COOP	16
Newark Area	ThreadEx	15
TETERBORO AIRPORT	COOP	15
NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	15

 

Monthly Data for June 2017 for Upton NY NWS CWA Monthly High Temperature 
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NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	101
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	99
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	98
NJ	HARRISON	COOP	98
NJ	CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP	WBAN	98

 

Data for January 1, 2017 through December 31, 2017 Days with 90°
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WRIGHTSTOWN	COOP	33
HIGHTSTOWN 2 W	COOP	26
CANOE BROOK	COOP	25
TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	24
FREEHOLD-MARLBORO	COOP	24
HARRISON	COOP	23
NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	22
TETERBORO AIRPORT	COOP	22
Newark Area	ThreadEx	22
HAMMONTON 1 NE	COOP	22
New Brunswick Area	ThreadEx	20
NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE	COOP	20

May of 96  had that record heat in May 99 in EWR, even in the cooler summers there may be spikes of heat. 

[SACRUS]

17 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

112F in Martinsburg, yeah, I don't believe that. It was 103F in Hagerstown and 105F in Kearneysville on the same date, right next door. Hot day, but it's not 7-9F hotter in Martinsburg than neighboring towns. More bogus nonsense, so we can hear how it was so much hotter in the past and climate change is a hoax.

That was the dust bowl heat setting records in many states

 

https://www.weather.gov/ilx/july1936heat

 

https://www.weather.gov/arx/heat_jul36

 

https://arcfieldweather.com/blog/2023/7/13/715-am-the-deadly-heat-wave-of-july-1936-in-the-middle-of-one-of-the-hottest-summers-on-record-across-the-nation

[TheClimateChanger]

11 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

That was the dust bowl heat setting records in many states

 

https://www.weather.gov/ilx/july1936heat

 

https://www.weather.gov/arx/heat_jul36

I understand that, but that doesn't explain why the Martinsburg temperatures are consistently 5F warmer than surrounding towns in that era, including on the date it "hit" a state record of 112F. On the same date, it was 103F in Hagerstown (25-minute drive) and 105F in Kearnesyville (10-ish minute drive) with no appreciable elevation difference.

[FPizz]

18 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

You just know that user @FPizz is going to chime in with a poo emoji, and there it is! I post a very reasonable critique of a clearly bogus reading, and that's the response. I see him typing something else up, wonder what it could be?

It's like an IQ test. Anyone with any knowledge of meteorology/weather knows such variance is implausible/impossible, so you have to either willfully pretend its plausible despite the physical impossibility or, well you know...

Since YOU don't agree with an official temp, then it HAS to be wrong.  Get off your high horse.  Your name gives away your extreme bias. BTW, I hear those neighboring sites had foliage problems, so that explains it 

 

[Wannabehippie]

When is this stationary front supposed to finally move out of the way? Temps are down, but dew points are thru the roof.

[Brian5671]

1 minute ago, Wannabehippie said:

When is this stationary front supposed to finally move out of the way? Temps are down, but dew points are thru the roof.

not today....

.SYNOPSIS...
A stationary frontal boundary across the region through tonight
eventually shifts farther south heading into the start of the
weekend. High pressure builds east of the waters for the latter half
of this weekend before weakening early next week.

[doncat]

4 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Meanwhile just to our south massive flooding. If it were an ocean stabilization issue we wouldn’t see eastern New England blowing away our rainfall totals. Something about the geography of the NY bight destroys convection. 

My area (Staten Island) usually does pretty good with convection, in fact my July avg rainfall is over 5 inches. But not this year with this more or less dry pattern since September.

[SACRUS]

8 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

I understand that, but that doesn't explain why the Martinsburg temperatures are consistently 5F warmer than surrounding towns in that era, including on the date it "hit" a state record of 112F. On the same date, it was 103F in Hagerstown (25-minute drive) and 105F in Kearnesyville (10-ish minute drive) with no appreciable elevation difference.

I dont know the area there well enough but 110 in NJ would support the higher readings.   it was 104 in Newark that day NYC 106 / 102 those days.

[bluewave]

13 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

May of 96  had that record heat in May 99 in EWR, even in the cooler summers there may be spikes of heat. 

2009 was the last summer at a warm spot like Newark which averaged under 74°.

 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ Coolest Summers 
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1	1940	71.0	0
2	1946	71.7	0
3	1945	72.4	0
4	1941	72.5	0
5	1936	72.7	0
6	1950	72.8	0
-	1935	72.8	0
-	1933	72.8	0
-	1932	72.8	0
7	1982	72.9	0
-	1956	72.9	0
-	1947	72.9	0
-	1942	72.9	0
8	1962	73.0	0
-	1958	73.0	0
-	1934	73.0	0
9	2000	73.1	0
10	1967	73.2	0
-	1954	73.2	0
-	1951	73.2	0
-	1931	73.2	0
11	2009	73.5	0
12	1996	73.6	0
-	1948	73.6	0
13	1985	73.7	0
-	1964	73.7	0
14	1997	73.8	0
15	2004	73.9	0
-	1965	73.9	0
-	1938	73.9	0

[TheClimateChanger]

3 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

I dont know the area there well enough but 110 in NJ would support the higher readings.   it was 104 in Newark that day NYC 106 / 102 those days.

I would say that area is generally less prone to high heat (100s+) than the coastal plain. It does happen, but not very frequently. Regardless, my point is just that the reading is way above any surrounding observations in the immediate vicinity. Clearly, it was a hot day either way, but that reading is obviously inflated somewhat from either instrument error or poor siting/exposure.

[2112wxgrl]

Just want to add to the wx history for this day:

“A tornado tore through Pompton Lakes on Saturday July 10, 1993. An estimated 200 trees were reportedly sucked out by their roots when a tornado passed over the Borough. The tornado came and went in less than 10 minutes and left a big mess”. -from the borough of PL FB page.
 

I remember this day well. I was driving home from Ringwood. Almost couldn’t reach our house with trees down everywhere. Our dog was home alone during the storm and she wouldn’t leave our yard for a month afterwards.

[bluewave]

26 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

I dont know the area there well enough but 110 in NJ would support the higher readings.   it was 104 in Newark that day NYC 106 / 102 those days.

I would guess that Runyon 110° high was an error that never got corrected since its a few miles the east of New Brunswick and they only made it to 105°.

Monthly Data for July 1936 for New Jersey
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

RUNYON	COOP	110
PEMBERTON	COOP	107
MERCHANTVILLE	COOP	106
PLEASANTVILLE 1 N	COOP	106
MOORESTOWN 4 E	COOP	106
ROEBLING	COOP	106
TRENTON	WBAN	106
LONG BRANCH-OAKHURST	COOP	106
FREEHOLD-MARLBORO	COOP	106
Trenton Area	ThreadEx	106
Belvidere Area	ThreadEx	106
FLEMINGTON 5 NNW	COOP	106
PLAINFIELD	COOP	106
BELVIDERE	COOP	106
SUSSEX 1 NW	COOP	106
TUCKERTON 2 NE	COOP	105
CAMDEN	COOP	105
HIGHTSTOWN 2 W	COOP	105
NEW BRUNSWICK EXPERIMENT STATION	COOP	105
New Brunswick Area	ThreadEx	105
ELIZABETH	COOP	105
JERSEY CITY	COOP	105
LITTLE FALLS	COOP	105
PATERSON	COOP	105
CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR	COOP	105
Newark Area	ThreadEx	104
LAMBERTVILLE RIVER	COOP	104
BRIDGETON 1 NE	COOP	104
INDIAN MILLS 2 W	COOP	104
LAMBERTVILLE	COOP	104
PHILLIPSBURG	COOP	104
NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	104
HAMMONTON 1 NE	COOP	103
LAYTON 3 NW	COOP	103
DOVER	COOP	102
BELLEPLAIN STA FOREST	COOP	102
SOMERVILLE 4 NW	COOP	102
CANOE BROOK	COOP	102
RIDGEFIELD	COOP	102

[winterwx21]

1 hour ago, FPizz said:

Crazy, 1.18" here.  Had some heavy rain and thunder in the middle of the night with a cell

Yeah I saw that cell popping up on radar last night before I went to sleep. I thought it would miss me just a little to the northwest, and that's what happened. I got only 0.23" from last night's steady rain, but at least it was enough to give the garden a watering. 

[Stormlover74]

3 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:

Yeah I saw that cell popping up on radar last night before I went to sleep. I thought it would miss me just a little to the northwest, and that's what happened. I got only 0.23" from last night's steady rain, but at least it was enough to give the garden a watering. 

Models have very little this afternoon but Upton and Mt holly are going 60% chance of showers 

[winterwx21]

15 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Models have very little this afternoon but Upton and Mt holly are going 60% chance of showers 

Yeah I don't think there's gonna be much activity this afternoon, but we'll see. 

[Stormlover74]

8 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:

Yeah I don't think there's gonna be much activity this afternoon, but we'll see. 

It's crazy that ewr may end up with under .25" for the week 

[SACRUS]

 

Sun peaking through an up to 81