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So from what I'm reading...basically not much different than we've seen the last 10 years <_< I mean it's becoming the same old story year after year now. Last year was probably the "best" of the 10 years overall...and that was because of prolonged snow cover and areas in the south and east getting decent numbers from the two events we had--rather than there being even a median snow total for the season (at least at bwi). I'm almost ready ignore any tracking until we finally get a year where we can get something like we used to get occasionally.

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On 9/5/2025 at 3:11 PM, psuhoffman said:

 

There are outliers to every subset but Nina’s in general are colder and drier than other enso states lately. That produces less variance across our region due to meso scale climate factors (elevation, slight changes in latitude). So in general that equates to better for places further SE in our region and worse for places NW wrt “normal”

Man who would've thought our climo would reach a point where "north and west of the city" was no longer what it used to be, smh South is the place to be apparently :rolleyes:Wake me up when @North Balti Zen cashes in. Maybe then that'll mean more of us can get something more substantial that year, lol

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39 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

Man who would've thought our climo would reach a point where "north and west of the city" was no longer what it used to be, smh South is the place to be apparently :rolleyes:Wake me up when @North Balti Zen cashes in. Maybe then that'll mean more of us can get something more substantial that year, lol

North Balti's gonna cash in this winter. So will you and nearly everyone else in this here sub.

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1 month trend in the PDO region is actually not bad...

Early August 

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Current 

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EPS/GEFS/GEPS all show a bias towards upper level troughing near Japan over the next 2 weeks. Still way early and a long ways to go but with Nina enso conditions seeming likely this winter, a bathwater PDO region would be very problematic during met winter. If (and it's a big if) the -PDO collapses over the next 2 months, it would be a pretty big positive sign that winter could be interesting instead of soul crushing. 

Other than major blocking, which can't really be predicted until it's happening, there isn't much to get excited about irt a cold/snowy winter. Just pointing out something worth watching as we move through the next couple months. 

 

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5 hours ago, Bob Chill said:

1 month trend in the PDO region is actually not bad...

Early August 

image.thumb.png.834170febba4778e35a76c5ec7335b81.png

 

Current 

image.thumb.png.d854649464d0cadbe01aef990412471c.png

 

EPS/GEFS/GEPS all show a bias towards upper level troughing near Japan over the next 2 weeks. Still way early and a long ways to go but with Nina enso conditions seeming likely this winter, a bathwater PDO region would be very problematic during met winter. If (and it's a big if) the -PDO collapses over the next 2 months, it would be a pretty big positive sign that winter could be interesting instead of soul crushing. 

Other than major blocking, which can't really be predicted until it's happening, there isn't much to get excited about irt a cold/snowy winter. Just pointing out something worth watching as we move through the next couple months. 

 

Yeah, looking some better out there. NATL looking better as well.

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This is a good visual showing just how hostile the pdo has been since 2017. It's only one piece of the puzzle and no single index drives "it all" but it's also no coincidence that the last time it was friendly (2014-16) we had one of our best stretches of consecutive winters. 

In enso neutral and nina winters we need a good alignment in the Pac or it gets pretty hard to get things right around here with cold and winter wx. If things are going to work this winter a -EPO will be really important. Generally speaking, -EPOs don't come easy if at all when the PDO is strongly negative. 

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