December 2023

[weatherwiz]

Give me a massive January and February, but by March I'm ready for deep spring and summer. I want 60's, 70's and by April give me the 80's and by May it's time for severe weather. 

[weathafella]

2 hours ago, Snowcrazed71 said:

Who came up with Rat or Ratter anyway? 

Do we have a name if it turns out to be amazing... Like .. Goldilocks? 

I had a guy in the dorm at college in the late 1960s who used to say “this blows dead rats”.   So I brought it into conversation here and started saying “ratter”.   I demand residuals!

[Great Snow 1717]

3 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

Give me a massive January and February, but by March I'm ready for deep spring and summer. I want 60's, 70's and by April give me the 80's and by May it's time for severe weather in the plains.

FYP

[iceman1]

wow this place is slow we need a big January 

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

48 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said:

14 years including this year …cmon . 

 

I’ve been pointing this out for a few years now. Last one was 2010 here. They don’t happen anymore.

for reference, the last white Christmas I was 16 and a junior in high school. I’ll be turning 30 in March lol

[STILL N OF PIKE]

27 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

I’ve been pointing this out for a few years now. Last one was 2010 here. They don’t happen anymore.

for reference, the last white Christmas I was 16 and a junior in high school. I’ll be turning 30 in March lol

Well , there is a reason I travel for snow . Life is short and if I can’t I’d rather invest emotionally in something that will bring me more happiness than frustration . I mean I’d go back to Florida where girls prance around in bathing suits and are under 200 pounds otherwise .

I would like to see data on snow cover days for areas that were marginal winter weather wise and warmed over the last twenty years . Like maybe Philly , NYC , L.I and the immediate burbs as well as S coastal SNE .

Seems like there are more high-moderate to high events based on more juicier systems seemingly present which can help total snowfall numbers where there is a little more temp wiggle room but I would be curious if total snow cover days are decreasing simultaneously for the areas I mentioned . During slower winters I do ponder whether  at some point 20 -25 or so years from now if the basic New England CP SE of 500’ MHT to ORH just turns into what upper interior mid Atlantic to NYC and S coast has or maybe that isn’t the general case 

[ORH_wxman]

52 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I always count 2017 because 20 min later there was an inch. We had one south of BOS in 2010, but Logan didn't get much from the snow event near the 21st I believe.  

I think 2010 was mostly Logan-specific. I was in Boston on Xmas eve and the common was covered with about 2-3" of snow and there was about 2" OTG the entire way back to ORH.

[CoastalWx]

1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

I think 2010 was mostly Logan-specific. I was in Boston on Xmas eve and the common was covered with about 2-3" of snow and there was about 2" OTG the entire way back to ORH.

That's what I recall too even in Dorchester where I was. I do remember my friend in East Boston having less than what I had in that event. 

[ORH_wxman]

1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

I think 2010 was mostly Logan-specific. I was in Boston on Xmas eve and the common was covered with about 2-3" of snow and there was about 2" OTG the entire way back to ORH.

Just checked the NOHRSC maps and they seem to agree

 

[STILL N OF PIKE]

1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

Just checked the NOHRSC maps and they seem to agree

 

Hate to see CT miss out like that

[Hazey]

When we finally hit the good period, Watch it be cold and dry.

We need that first week of the month pattern back. Cold enough with s/w’s traversing under us. Shame we couldn’t have kept that going long before it went to shit.

[CoastalWx]

1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

Just checked the NOHRSC maps and they seem to agree

 

Yeah that smells funny. I swear they did, even Logan.

[STILL N OF PIKE]

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

Yeah that smells funny. I swear they did, even Logan.

It’s Possible Greta hacked the data set and map

[ORH_wxman]

Just now, CoastalWx said:

Yeah that smells funny. I swear they did, even Logan.

Where are they getting the snow depth numbers from anyway? BOS stopped reporting snow depth well before 2010.

[ORH_wxman]

FWIW, the Hingham coop had a white christmas that year....still not sure what they are using to say BOS didn't have one because Logan airport didn't report snow depth in 2010.

[WxWatcher007]

3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Just checked the NOHRSC maps and they seem to agree

 

Can you do me a favor and just photoshop Connecticut out of images like this? Make Springfield a coastal community for all I care but these images are inflicting emotional distress. 

[CoastalWx]

1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

FWIW, the Hingham coop had a white christmas that year....still not sure what they are using to say BOS didn't have one because Logan airport didn't report snow depth in 2010.

And same in 2009...yet they're saying it was a white Christmas??  

[Sey-Mour Snow]

GEFS look better again, some NAO blocking developing as well. 

[STILL N OF PIKE]

2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

And same in 2009...yet they're saying it was a white Christmas??  

Ok so it’s been 12 years ..?

[ORH_wxman]

Just now, CoastalWx said:

And same in 2009...yet they're saying it was a white Christmas??  

It appears BOS stopped reporting snow depth after the 2003-2004 winter. So I have no idea what station they are using to determine anything past December 2003 for snow depth and white Xmas.

We obviously know 2009 had snow there but in more marginal years, I'm not sure what they are using. I don't even think 2010 was that marginal either.

[MJO812]

[RUNNAWAYICEBERG]

Ginxy says white xmas odds for SNE have not changed since the 1600s though.

[weathafella]

This year, the vast majority of CONUS will NOT have a white Christmas.   I wonder if anyone has a database nationwide and what we’re seeing this year is a record....

[CoastalWx]

Just now, weathafella said:

This year, the vast majority of CONUS will NOT have a white Christmas.   I wonder if anyone has a database nationwide and what we’re seeing this year is a record....

Pretty sure we are near record low snow cover for NAMR. 

[Sey-Mour Snow]

6 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Just took a closer look wow pretty weeniesh . Very cold for January and even more February with a more active pattern in January drier in February 

[ORH_wxman]

9 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said:

GEFS look better again, some NAO blocking developing as well. 

Maybe we get screwed again, but it definitely won't be the same style as last year....such a different looking PAC.

[dryslot]

4 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Maybe we get screwed again, but it definitely won't be the same style as last year....such a different looking PAC.

So maybe no kiss this time?

[dendrite]

2010

[weatherwiz]

The two worst investments I've made the past few years

1) A snow shovel - my girlfriend is from Florida and moved up here in like 2017. She had no idea there were shovels specific for snow and used a garden shovel. 

2) Mac Jones jersey 

Can I return both?

[Great Snow 1717]

10 minutes ago, weathafella said:

This year, the vast majority of CONUS will NOT have a white Christmas.   I wonder if anyone has a database nationwide and what we’re seeing this year is a record....

The Weather Chanell this morning reported that if things remain the same in regards to snowcover that it will be a record.....consdering the record warmth that is likely to occur it is extremely likely that Christmas 2023 will  establish a new record.