forkyfork Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Jeff Grann said: I lived on Sanibel for 3 years. Worked with boat captains and Meteorologists. Being from NY I was fascinated by the different weather down there. It was made clear to me that Florida had a Subtropical climate from just below the Tampa Bay area . North of there was not due to the continental influence on the weather. I saw the difference especially in overnight lows . As far as the 70's, I still have the Time Magazine that was devoted to ”The next ice age cometh"?. It was very clear how NOAA and the scientific community we're leaning back then. https://slate.com/technology/2014/12/1975-newsweek-article-on-global-cooling-how-climate-change-deniers-use-my-old-piece.html In the 39 years since, biotechnology has flowered from a promising academic topic to a major global industry, the first test-tube baby has been born and become a mother herself, cosmologists have learned that the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate rather than slowing down, and particle physicists have detected the Higgs boson, an entity once regarded as only a theoretical concept. Seven presidents have served most of 11 terms. And Newsweek has become a shadow of its former self. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, Jeff Grann said: Nothing went dormant in SW Florida that I noticed in Winter besides the bugs. Things may have grown a bit slower but all my tropical trees and plants were still vibrant Thats because Florida is on the southern side of the subtropical range and is humid. Florida is one of my favorite places. I know the ecology down there quite well. Go inland a bit and when things get dry you will see brief periods of dormancy, however it is much rarer in Florida. Go to Phoenix and see the amazing difference between the dry season and the monsoon season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Tropical storm Sam has formed. This actually looks like a tropical system, not like some of the wimpy storms preceding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 There is no doubt our climate is becoming more mild and wet. Some areas of the world are becoming more dry. However because the earth is always getting cooler or warmer, I suppose we are better off overall to become warmer. The problem with this warm up is humans may be accelerating the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 The one comparison that holds between NYC and Miami is the JAS rainfall in 2021 and 2011 is closer to the South Florida average. Monthly Total Precipitation for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Jul Aug Sep Season 2011 3.03 18.95 9.39 31.37 2021 11.09 10.32 7.73 29.14 Monthly Total Precipitation for Miami Area, FL (ThreadEx)Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Jul Aug Sep Season Mean 8.70 10.06 9.15 27.91 2021 8.18 7.29 7.14 22.61 2020 10.26 7.44 10.92 28.62 2019 10.54 15.74 3.25 29.53 2018 8.02 9.58 7.89 25.49 2017 12.45 8.57 14.97 35.99 2016 4.11 13.77 6.05 23.93 2015 5.91 9.02 9.97 24.90 2014 10.29 9.07 7.25 26.61 2013 12.70 4.43 10.47 27.60 2012 8.92 15.92 11.03 35.87 2011 5.71 11.08 4.99 21.78 2010 7.36 8.75 15.89 32.00 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 minute ago, lee59 said: There is no doubt our climate is becoming more mild and wet. Some areas of the world are becoming more dry. However because the earth is always getting cooler or warmer, I suppose we are better off overall to become warmer. The problem with this warm up is humans may be accelerating the process. welcome to 1988 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, forkyfork said: welcome to 1988 I only wish. We could at least eliminate some of present day hyping of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Big shift west with Sam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, lee59 said: I only wish. We could at least eliminate some of present day hyping of everything. cold weather is becoming more infrequent with time and you don't like being reminded 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, forkyfork said: cold weather is becoming more infrequent with time and you don't like being reminded I agree with both your statements. However about being reminded, it really doesn't bother me that much, facts are facts. I do have confidence though in the human race, that we will get rid of much of what we contribute to greenhouse gases long before doomsday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Front passed in Central PA..62 degrees and sun..Yes it is Fall!!.Have to wear a jacket..beautiful! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, forkyfork said: cold weather is becoming more infrequent with time and you don't like being reminded I grew up before 1988. When I was young I really wanted cold Winters, now not so much. I do believe however that today's weather is more interesting than it was when I grew up. We get bigger snowstorms and unusual summer weather. When the weather was less mild and dryer, there just wasn't as much activity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 minute ago, lee59 said: I grew up before 1988. When I was young I really wanted cold Winters, now not so much. I do believe however that today's weather is more interesting than it was when I grew up. We get bigger snowstorms and unusual summer weather. When the weather was less mild and dryer, there just wasn't as much activity. yep don't need brutal cold for snow-look at last winter for example 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Subtropical day here…80/73…on September 23 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, psv88 said: Subtropical day here…80/73…on September 23 true-clouds even look like the ones you see in the Carribean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, psv88 said: Subtropical day here…80/73…on September 23 Your on the wrong side of the cold front 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness77 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, psv88 said: Subtropical day here…80/73…on September 23 It’s disgusting out…again. Thank god there’s a breeze. I hate wishing warm weather away, but I am tired of sweating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 30 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: true-clouds even look like the ones you see in the Carribean Yeah, a Florida and SE looking tropical cloud streets pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: true-clouds even look like the ones you see in the Carribean It has been sunny most of the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, KEITH L.I said: Your on the wrong side of the cold front Why? I would rather be warm than cold. Shorts and flip flops live on. Enjoy bundling up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, psv88 said: Why? I would rather be warm than cold. Shorts and flip flops live on. Enjoy bundling up! Its not that warm. Just disgustingly humid. Glad the sun isnt out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboLeader1 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 80* here, RH 74, DP 68. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 hours ago, bluewave said: The one comparison that holds between NYC and Miami is the JAS rainfall in 2021 and 2011 is closer to the South Florida average. Monthly Total Precipitation for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Jul Aug Sep Season 2011 3.03 18.95 9.39 31.37 2021 11.09 10.32 7.73 29.14 Monthly Total Precipitation for Miami Area, FL (ThreadEx)Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Jul Aug Sep Season Mean 8.70 10.06 9.15 27.91 2021 8.18 7.29 7.14 22.61 2020 10.26 7.44 10.92 28.62 2019 10.54 15.74 3.25 29.53 2018 8.02 9.58 7.89 25.49 2017 12.45 8.57 14.97 35.99 2016 4.11 13.77 6.05 23.93 2015 5.91 9.02 9.97 24.90 2014 10.29 9.07 7.25 26.61 2013 12.70 4.43 10.47 27.60 2012 8.92 15.92 11.03 35.87 2011 5.71 11.08 4.99 21.78 2010 7.36 8.75 15.89 32.00 And we are still adding to September!! Please let us dry out!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 35 minutes ago, jfklganyc said: Its not that warm. Just disgustingly humid. Glad the sun isnt out! It’s 81 here today. 80 at kisp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness77 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 54 minutes ago, jfklganyc said: Its not that warm. Just disgustingly humid. Glad the sun isnt out! South Shore of LI…been sunny all day so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Absolutely pouring with thunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, guinness77 said: South Shore of LI…been sunny all day so far. Incredible day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 been windy all day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acoolerclimate Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 3:21 PM, rclab said: Good afternoon JG. Your post reaction is understandable, however there are nuances to the term. Palm trees may be a physical manifestation of tropical as are dews. We are experiencing sustained heightened dews in a calendar time and geographic locations that gives pause. BW, as many other fine posters in our sub forums neither hypes or sensationalizes. Data and demonstration of such is their deep throat. As always …. Interesting. I live in North Providence, Rhode Island, and just down the road there is a house with Palm Trees in the front!! I can't wait to see what happens to them in the winter, but scary they are growing here at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, acoolerclimate said: Interesting. I live in North Providence, Rhode Island, and just down the road there is a house with Palm Trees in the front!! I can't wait to see what happens to them in the winter, but scary they are growing here at all. When I was in Piscataway NJ one house planted 6 of them along their driveway. They lasted the summer and were dead the next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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